WSJ: Apple Apps Unfairly Dominate App Store Search Results

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  1. Remy149 macrumors 6502

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    The app itself is free because it’s also where your iTunes music library lives on your iOS devices
     
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    Don’t think he has ever used an iPhone.
     
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  4. upandown macrumors 6502a

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    Every company ever pushes their own products. It’s a business!!

    How is it monopolistic? All you have to do is scroll down and Apple hosts 100s of thousands of third party apps! Is that so terrible?
     
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    Wow I bet Amazon would never do that on its site
    /sarcasm
     
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    Click Bait article. Time to move on. :apple:
     
  8. coolfactor macrumors 601

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    The weight likely comes directly from user interactions. Every time a search result is selected, it adds weight to that result. This is the same as Google's algorithm. It's a user-driven, not a company-driven algorithm.
     
  9. Herrpod macrumors regular

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    They're not wrong. I searched for Spotify and the first result it gave me before Spotify was Apple Music. I laughed at the notion I'd want to actually pay for that app and then scrolled down to the service with good apps.
     
  10. coolfactor macrumors 601

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    Apple needs to release an "App Store SDK" so developers can build vetted and secure app stores of their own. Apple would still do the app reviews, but approved apps could show up on these "third-party app stores" in whatever fashion the developer chooses.

    This makes perfect sense to me.
     
  11. sw1tcher macrumors 68000

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    And if the manufacturer of a competing product to yours didn't like what you were doing, they could take their product and sell it in another store that wasn't unfairly favoring their house brand over theirs.

    The thing is, iOS app developers have no other choice than Apple's app store.
     
  12. Homme macrumors regular

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    First and foremost this article was done by someone who hates Apple. He is the one who made another false article on why he thought Jony Ive left Apple

    He recently got exposed by none other than the brilliant DED on why you shouldn’t make stuff up like this
    https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...ffed-at-by-apple-experts-delicious-to-critics

    I don’t get as to how Tripp mickle ( and those who make anti apple articles) obviously lie and still work for the same sleazy companies like WSJ
     
  13. drcre8tive macrumors member

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    This is such a non-issue. Apple could do a little sidebar feature section next to their apps showing highly rated similar alternative apps available in the marketplace... they win either way by selling them and getting their cut, so...
     
  14. Khedron macrumors 68000

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    Free because Apple charges subscriptions (iCloud, News+, Apple Music, TV+)
     
  15. Rogifan macrumors Core

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    So WSJ, you gonna do one of these for Google too?
     

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  16. realtuner macrumors 65816

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    Non-issue. WSJ is trying to create news where there is none.

    Apple only has a few Apps on their App Store, with the majority of them ALREADY installed on iOS devices. And this is where the whole thing falls apart.

    The WSJ searches for things that most people already have and tries to imply the ENTIRE App Store is biased. Their entire testing methodology is flawed to try and make Apple look bad by restricting their search terms to what they know are Apples own Apps.

    I tried a few others:

    “spreadsheet” brings up Google Sheets, Excel, iSpreadsheet, Calculator Spreadsheet and finally Numbers.

    “word processing” brings up Word then Pages.

    “presentation” brings up Google Slides, PowerPoint and then Keynote.

    “video editing” put iMovie in around 10th spot.

    “video editor” iMovie wasn’t even in the first 20 (I stopped scrolling).


    What I find hilarious is when Google was accused of doing this with Google Search (placing their own results or ads up top) the defenses used were:

    “It’s their search engine and they can do what they want” or “who cares if Google’s own result is first as nobody stops at the first item and will scroll down to see the various options”.

    Oh the irony.....
     
  17. Bawstun macrumors 68000

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    Good post. This is why they’ll be sued, and lose. Per usual.
     
  18. realtuner macrumors 65816

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    I call BS. Just tried this and Apple Music was way down the list. I got:

    Spotify
    Spotify for Artists
    Soundtrap
    Youtify for Spotify Premium
    I Feel
    Quick Spotsearch
    Shazam
    Music Player
    YouTube
    Soundcloud
    Unlimited Music Player
    Google Play
    Youtify again (different version)
    Kiss App
    Block Puzzle
    Apple Music
     
  19. Khedron macrumors 68000

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    Apple is retiring the App Store anyway. It will be replaced with the Subscription Store. Every app will be subscription based. Extra administration fees apply if not paying by Apple Card.
     
  20. mrex macrumors 68040

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    i quess many developers will disagree.




    tells alot of common knowledge of ”how laws work in a business world”.
     
  21. Herrpod macrumors regular

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    I don't care what you got. I'm telling you what I got. I've also received Netflix first when I searched for Hulu.
     
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    How about you let me installs from other source, Apple :mad:
     
  23. Rogifan macrumors Core

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    No. That would be a disaster. A very small percentage of iOS users complains about the App Store. This article is bogus. Do a google search on music or email and the first results that pop up are links to Google’s own apps and services.
    --- Post Merged, Jul 23, 2019 ---
    What do you need to install that you can’t get on the App Store?
     
  24. realtuner macrumors 65816

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    A screenshot should clear this up very quickly.
     
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    Anybody else would like an app icon next to the app in the App Store to indicate if an app was written fully in swift?
     
  26. R0ckyRZ macrumors newbie

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    4chan reader, porn apps, apps developers can’t put in the AppStore due to lack of funds, porn apps, and much more Apple has banned.
     

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