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In other news, my local McDonald's sells more units from the dollar menu than my local steakhouse does through their prix fixe menu. I'm fine with paying for a very nice dinner once a year, but I understand that many are only ever up for the quarter pounder.
Or we iphone poor edition people prefer a good garden burger to your steak. I don’t like oled. They are beautiful but overpriced and seem to have the potential for the black spot defect.
 
There’s no way the 6.1” LCD iPhone 9 is going to be priced “300-400” less than an iPhone X. I think the iPhone X will be $899, and the iPhone 9 about $749, splitting the price points of the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus. I see the X Plus at $999.
 
Like my X. Would have liked to see the X Plus last year as I downsized from my 7 Plus.

But really a Series 4 and some updated MBPs are what my radar is scanning for.

I’m good waiting another upgrade cycle on the X.
 
In other news, my local McDonald's sells more units from the dollar menu than my local steakhouse does through their prix fixe menu. I'm fine with paying for a very nice dinner once a year, but I understand that many are only ever up for the quarter pounder.
Your analogy needs a little help. All the items come from Apple so all the items should come from McDonalds.
As in: my local McDonald's sells more units from their dollar menu than their premium sandwich offerings. You're right though. Apple selling more of their cheaper units should be no surprise. I think that's always been the case.
 
The "LCD is cheaper" reason is a smoke shield by everyone in the media to cover up the fact that many long time users of iPhones simply can not tolerate the flickering PWM of AppleSung OLED X displays. Apple is well aware of this health hazard too, hence LCD will remain until they figure out a new display technology.
 
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Makes sense. The 6.1" is targeted at the huge swath of iPhone 6 and 6 Plus owners. The 6.1" keeps the single rear camera and implements software 3D Touch.

Many iPhone 6 and 6 Plus owners see no compelling reason to upgrade to iPhone 7 or 8. iPhone X was too expensive.

It doesn't cannibalize the iPhone X too much and gives what most consumers want: large display and a new form factor.

All without a ridiculously high price tag.

Seems fairly obvious because of the more affordable price point which which model will sell the most. If the 6.1 LCD iPhone starts at $799, offering Face ID like features with an aluminum chassis, most consumers are going to find that very appealing...

The general nature of digital technology for the past ~3 decades has been that the hardware's value grows over time and with decreasing price points. Granted, Apple does buck this trend, but that doesn't mean that they're immune. The prospects for the 2018/2019 6.1" will become a desirable value for consumers only if it is both as good as the iPhone X at a lower price point. This also means that if it doesn't have X features but is still asking $800, it is mispriced.

Personally, I value the venerable old headphone jack and plan to re-battery my 6s and skip another iPhone generation. Sure, some people may say "but its only another $799 out of pocket!" but without anything hugely compelling from Apple for my particular interests/needs, other discretionary expenses win out: $799 will pay for the boat for a full week's worth of scuba diving, for example...

... There are some who are not interested in a phone in a 6.5 X simply because of the size and price

Even the 6.1" is too large for my wife's preferences.

Patiently waiting for the SE 2. The rumored cheap phone is going to have a bigger case than the iPhone X!

My wife gave up on the wait early in 2018 ... replaced her 5 with the SE, and as far as she's concerned, she's out of the market for another 2-3 years.


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There’s no way the 6.1” LCD iPhone 9 is going to be priced “300-400” less than an iPhone X. I think the iPhone X will be $899, and the iPhone 9 about $749, splitting the price points of the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus. I see the X Plus at $999.

My price estimation is the same, that's the most realistic to expect.

My assumptions is the 6.1" will be limited to a single 64GB model, or something along those lines, which will push some of us to other models because it's missing a key feature (in my case I'd like a 256GB model, 128GB minimum). When the 6.1" is announced, there will be at least one key compromise that comes along with it that we don't know about yet that will push some who thought the'd go with the 6.1" to actually go with the X or X Plus.

On my opinion the compromise will be about the cameras, mainly. The LCD iPhone will stick with one single camera, iPhone X2 will have the same dual and iPhone X Plus will beat up with triple, so it will be more appealing to upgrade.
 
Why do people think Apple is going to drop 3D Touch? That's been around since the iPhone 6S, so it's been on three phone generations now. Seems odd that they'd drop it; the technology is likely mature and inexpensive by now.
 
Apple does make (or get I should say) the best LCD's out there, however, I am not going from my OLED iPhone X to a LCD iPhone X2...whatever the naming scheme will be. I will be getting the iPhone X Plus.

I love my iPhone X and the OLED screen. PWM does not bother me at all, no headaches or eye strain for me.

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"That doesn't mean the current iPhone X was too expensive, though, as in February, Apple said it was the "top selling iPhone" every week since it launched in early November."

That could mean that for example the share was iPhoneX 34%, iPhone8 33%, iPhone8+ 33%. So yes, it could have been the top selling but if you look at the iPhone8 line, it sold much better than the X. Of course they're very careful with their words.

What I'd most be interested in is what is iPhoneX vs all other iPhones, that would tell you how much people are actually adopting the latest and greatest.

Based on ASP and units sold for the past two quarterly earnings reports it would appear the X accounted for around 20% of total unit sales for the five months it was available.
 
My wife gave up on the wait early in 2018 ... replaced her 5 with the SE, and as far as she's concerned, she's out of the market for another 2-3 years.

I have an SE and want to upgrade. I'm feeling some lag when starting up apps. If there was an update, I'd buy it now. Otherwise, I'll wait till Dec, take advantage of the $29 battery, and hold on for another year.

iOS 12 is rumored to perform better than iOS 11 on existing hardware, so let's see.
 
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I just wished Apple realized there are people who don’t want phablets. Why not put out a premium smaller phone again, Apple? The iPhone X is as big as I’d ever want but I really would rather have it scaled down to the physical box area of the SE.
 
I noticed there is an almost equal amount of SEs to X iPhones during my commute. Me, I would go for the updated SE providing better internals, headphone jack and slightly better screen for the same price.

I know what I need and want in a phone and it is not a phone that costs $1k. Been there, done that, my 7+ is too much phone for what I need.

If the lower priced phones sell the most, maybe that will knock some sense in the PTB about pricing. If not, as long Apple keep making what I need that is all I want.
 
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Dear Apple,
  1. Upgrade the specs on the iPhone SE.
  2. Leave everything else as-is.
Same goes for the Macintosh line-up:
  1. Take your 2012 Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, et cetera.
  2. Leave the outside untouched.
  3. Upgrade internal specs.
  4. Repeat each year.
There! I've fixed Apple. :)

You see, Tim? You don't need all those "brainstorming" meetings to figure out what people want in their Macs. It's really this simple...




*** waits patiently for the thinner/slimmer/better crowd to chime in about how behind-the-times I am, blissfully unawares of how they've been brainwashed into aligning their values with that of the corporate behemoths who are slowly screwing them in the :mad: ***
 
Removal of force touch is a feature IMHO. Apple continues to hide the iOS interface behind weird gestures that no one but nerds know about or can find.
 
Just to clear this up...these “supply chain” sources are not only always wrong about hardware orders, they literally have NO IDEA what Apple expects in terms of sales. None.
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Dear Apple,
  1. Upgrade the specs on the iPhone SE.
  2. Leave everything else as-is.
Same goes for the Macintosh line-up:
  1. Take your 2012 Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, et cetera.
  2. Leave the outside untouched.
  3. Upgrade internal specs.
  4. Repeat each year.
There! I've fixed Apple. :)

You see, Tim? You don't need all those "brainstorming" meetings to figure out what people want in their Macs. It's really this simple...




*** waits patiently for the thinner/slimmer/better crowd to chime in about how behind-the-times I am, blissfully unawares of how they've been brainwashed into aligning their values with that of the corporate behemoths who are slowly screwing them in the :mad: ***
Yeah, they should rely on your focus group of one to determine what people want and the most profitable and valuable company in the world needs you to “fix” them. LOL
 
Yeah, they should rely on your focus group of one to determine what people want and the most profitable and valuable company in the world needs you to “fix” them. LOL
Being a little cheeky there, of course. :p Glad to make you laugh!

Come to think of it, however, Steve Jobs used to be a focus group of one. Look where that got us.
 
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Just to clear this up...these “supply chain” sources are not only always wrong about hardware orders, they literally have NO IDEA what Apple expects in terms of sales. None.
That said, I wouldn't that surprised if the new iPhone 9 did indeed outsell the new X and X Plus combined. At the end of the day sales qty still has a lot to do with price. A FaceID iPhone with a display much larger than the 8 Plus—and at a cheaper price as a bonus—will be very compelling. iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus combined sold more than the X.

Of course, the 6.5” Plus will expand sales of the X category, and steal some demand from the LCD model. Some customers who would normally have bought a 5.5” LCD Plus in previous years will spend an extra few hundred to step up to the X Plus. (And some who bought the 2017 X will move up to the X Plus.) I think many previous Plus buyers will be satisfied with the 6.1” LCD iPhone 9, though.

btw, I also wouldn’t be surprised if the X Plus outsells the X. In any case, overall I think we’ll see record iPhone sales (240 million?) and a new record ASP as well.
 
I just wished Apple realized there are people who don’t want phablets. Why not put out a premium smaller phone again, Apple? The iPhone X is as big as I’d ever want but I really would rather have it scaled down to the physical box area of the SE.
Hey, Apple is telling you what you want and need so stop being an outlier. Stick to the program. Leave individuality to us Android/PC users.
 
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