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[WW] Bloodlust GAME OVER - WEREWOLVES WIN

All I've offered is an alternative. Random vs. some sort of logic. As I pointed out, if people believe this has been a hail mary by a bad guy, they lynch me next round and get a bad guy within 2 rounds. That's more than we can say for any other game we've had.
 
-aggie- said:
I’ve been a WW a number of times, as you all know. The stuff you describe is NOT how a winning WW acts. What do winning WW’s do?
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This is why I keep voting for -aggie-... apparently he's really good at it and everything and his way is the only way a werewolf should act. He's got it all figgered out.
 
If you lynch me now you'll just be losing a villager. But I hold no hard feelings against Chris, even though he is probably a baddie this game, as this voting will show.
 
SilentPanda said:
This is why I keep voting for -aggie-... apparently he's really good at it and everything and his way is the only way a werewolf should act. He's got it all figgered out.
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Well, change your vote back to me, because I think your vote for iBook could be wrong.

I doubt Chris could be the WW, unless he’s really bold. His hoping for votes in the beginning could’ve backfired, if he is a WW.

I’m not sure who it is yet, but iBook just doesn’t hold water for me.
 
iBookG4user said:
If you lynch me now you'll just be losing a villager. But I hold no hard feelings against Chris, even though he is probably a baddie this game, as this voting will show.
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Why am I probably a baddie? Because I tried to defend myself by coming up with a reason why I may not be the WW, whereas you voted for me randomly?

-aggie- said:
Well, change your vote back to me, because I think your vote for iBook could be wrong.

I doubt Chris could be the WW, unless he’s really bold. His hoping for votes in the beginning could’ve backfired, if he is a WW.

I’m not sure who it is yet, but iBook just doesn’t hold water for me.
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I was hoping for votes because it seemed inescapable for me. There's nothing I can really say to make another person look more attractive for a lynching than myself without a very good reason. When philbeeney made that post about me changing my behavior based on my role (when I've never been a bad guy), it gave me enough evidence to convince myself I may have an out for myself based on that circumstantial evidence.

Why should it matter if iBook holds water if the first vote is admittedly random? As I said, the choice is between a completely random vote or a somewhat reasoned one. Either way, you get a bad guy in the first two rounds if one of us is bad, right?
 
chrmjenkins said:
Why am I probably a baddie? Because I tried to defend myself by coming up with a reason why I may not be the WW, whereas you voted for me randomly?
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Well, your "somewhat reasoned" vote will show that I'm a villager and not a werewolf. It's rather scary how easily you can influence so many people so easily.
 
iBookG4user said:
Well, your "somewhat reasoned" vote will show that I'm a villager and not a werewolf. It's rather scary how easily you can influence so many people so easily.
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Scarier than a "random" vote that everyone blindly latches onto? My brashness has a price. If I am wrong, there's no way I'll continue to be able to have that influence, if I am even allowed to remain alive.
 
well I had been debating about changing my vote for a little while and I honestly was not sure about silent panda. After reading threw post and other arguments I am going to change my vote to iBookG4user Something just does not feel right about iBook.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
well I had been debating about changing my vote for a little while and I honestly was not sure about silent panda. After reading threw post and other arguments I am going to change my vote to iBookG4user Something just does not feel right about iBook.
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This should seal iBookG4user's fate, no?

EDIT:

If the last vote count was correct, iBlue, Abijnk and Rodimus Prime recent votes have provided the 11 vote majority.

Hopefully the specials have had ample time to plot their moves for 'tonight' and 'tonight' will go by faster than 'today'.
 
chrmjenkins said:
Why am I probably a baddie? Because I tried to defend myself by coming up with a reason why I may not be the WW, whereas you voted for me randomly?



I was hoping for votes because it seemed inescapable for me. There's nothing I can really say to make another person look more attractive for a lynching than myself without a very good reason. When philbeeney made that post about me changing my behavior based on my role (when I've never been a bad guy), it gave me enough evidence to convince myself I may have an out for myself based on that circumstantial evidence.

Why should it matter if iBook holds water if the first vote is admittedly random? As I said, the choice is between a completely random vote or a somewhat reasoned one. Either way, you get a bad guy in the first two rounds if one of us is bad, right?
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Like I said, it’s still a random vote AFAIC, not a somewhat reasoned one. I’m just stating the facts. Read my post again.

SilentPanda said:
I think -aggie- is trying to pull votes from iBook since they're both WW's.
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No, my post above stands on its own. The reasoning being given is random, not reasoned. I just wanted to make that clear, since as a villager, I have to think what’s best for the village. He may be a WW, but if he is, it’s just obtained thru randomness, no reasoned thinking. So, now the mob is all switching to him, based on what they see as reasoned thinking (even iBlue changed her vote). Got it? You’re thinking is not good for the village. If all you’re going to do when you play is vote for me for no reason, then of the three being considered, I have to vote for you, Silent Panda. Not a revenge vote. I just don’t think you’re thinking straight. Or, you’re thinking like a WW.

Edit: Well RP voted for iBook. Isn’t that special. Cue up ravenvii, because I believe iBook’s fate is going to be telling. My posts here will probably get me eaten, since the WW’s won’t like it.
 
-aggie- said:
If all you’re going to do when you play is vote for me for no reason, then of the three being considered, I have to vote for you, Silent Panda. Not a revenge vote. I just don’t think you’re thinking straight. Or, you’re thinking like a WW.
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My reason is you're trying to get me to vote for you so it's harder for iBook to die... hence you and iBook being WW's... guess we'll know shortly anyway. Even if neither of you are WW's, I did have a reason.
 
-aggie- said:
Edit: @mscriv: Just saw your post after reading Chris’s discussion/analysis. I agree totally with you. You even kept the post relatively short. :) Why is Don’t panic a threat?
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Don't panic was a key villager in game 3 who openly talked strategy and helped the village win over both the wolves and vamps. Being one of the few villagers to achieve a complex victory could make him a target for the baddies if they were looking at past gameplay.

chrmjenkins said:
When philbeeney made that post about me changing my behavior based on my role (when I've never been a bad guy), it gave me enough evidence to convince myself I may have an out for myself based on that circumstantial evidence.
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Since this has been brought to light... would you care to give an explanation or defense philbeeney? That's a pretty big mistake to make and it does seem to show some intent or hope that chrmjenkins gets lynched as opposed to the prevailing "random" attitude that most are expressing in the first round. If "someone has to go" and people don't think iBookG4user or chrmjenkins are likely baddies then why shouldn't we turn our attention toward you?
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I was just about to post the above when I saw that Rodimus had changed his vote and has given us a majority:

iBookG4user: 11 (willbro, chrmjenkins, stonyc, jav6454, mscriv, SilentPanda, Don't Panic, NathanMuir, iBlue, abijnk, Rodimus Prime)
Chrmjenkins: 4 (Mexbearpig, iBookG4user, philbeeney, Melrose)
SilentPanda: 3 (renewed, King Mook Mook, ucfgrad93)
Stonyc: 1 (appleguy123)
Don’t Panic: 1 (-aggie-)

Majority to lynch is 11

I would still like to hear from philbeeney on this matter.
 
SilentPanda said:
My reason is you're trying to get me to vote for you so it's harder for iBook to die... hence you and iBook being WW's... guess we'll know shortly anyway. Even if neither of you are WW's, I did have a reason.
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I’m not “trying” to get you to vote for me. I was “trying” to get you to take your vote back, so iBook isn’t killed for no reason. He only needed one, so maybe people would read my post and think about it some more.

And you do seem to vote for me often.
 
-aggie- said:
I’m not “trying” to get you to vote for me. I was “trying” to get you to take your vote back, so iBook isn’t killed for no reason. He only needed one, so maybe people would read my post and think about it some more.

And you do seem to vote for me often.
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I think I've only voted for you once last game (maybe twice but hey you were a WW) and well... once this game.
 
Don't panic said:
are you trying to tell us that you are a vampire or are in love with one?
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He better not be, since that would be a rules violation, no? I mean, the goths are supposed to figure it out by PMing raven, no?


mscriv said:
Don't panic was a key villager in game 3 who openly talked strategy and helped the village win over both the wolves and vamps. Being one of the few villagers to achieve a complex victory could make him a target for the baddies if they were looking at past gameplay.



Since this has been brought to light... would you care to give an explanation or defense philbeeney? That's a pretty big mistake to make and it does seem to show some intent or hope that chrmjenkins gets lynched as opposed to the prevailing "random" attitude that most are expressing in the first round. If "someone has to go" and people don't think iBookG4user or chrmjenkins are likely baddies then why shouldn't we turn our attention toward you?
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I was just about to post the above when I saw that Rodimus had changed his vote and given us a majority:

iBookG4user: 11 (willbro, chrmjenkins, stonyc, jav6454, mscriv, SilentPanda, Don't Panic, NathanMuir, iBlue, abijnk, Rodimus Prime)
Chrmjenkins: 4 (Mexbearpig, iBookG4user, philbeeney, Melrose)
SilentPanda: 3 (renewed, King Mook Mook, ucfgrad93)
Stonyc: 1 (appleguy123)
Don’t Panic: 1 (-aggie-)

Majority to lynch is 11

I would still like to hear from philbeeney on this matter.
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I didn’t know DP had played before. I’ve thought he was a newbie all this time. Hmmmm.


SilentPanda said:
I think I've only voted for you once last game (maybe twice but hey you were a WW) and well... once this game.
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Well, you never use smilies, and you’ve voted for me a number of times this game and we’re only on day 1. :)
 
It took 33 voting moves to reach our 11 majority this first day. Wow! :eek:

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-aggie- said:
I didn’t know DP had played before. I’ve thought he was a newbie all this time. Hmmmm.
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With initials like DP, I doubt you'd be a newbie at anything... :eek: :D

Sorry, that was in poor taste.
 
-aggie- said:
He better not be, since that would be a rules violation, no? I mean, the goths are supposed to figure it out by PMing raven, no?
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I'm not a vamp or ww or anything... but if I was a vamp I think I can pretty much say whatever publicly... of course saying "HEY GOTH! I'm the vampire, look me up!" would get me lynched. I just can't start PM'ing people.
 
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