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I was sceptical of Pluto trying to flush things out (priest, hunter) day one....turns out he's one of the good guys (if he really is the undertaker, can't imagine him lying though).
 
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The benefit of this power is to extend the deadline, I am curious what scenario you think would be a better use of the power than the one we are in.
 
I was sceptical of Pluto trying to flush things out (priest, hunter) day one....turns out he's one of the good guys (if he really is the undertaker, can't imagine him lying though).

Indeed. However, I can imagine our infiltrators mentally (and indeed, physically) noting each power (and the person with which it is linked) as they are made known. Such revelations, of course, have both positive and negative connotations, as that which is known to all, equally makes more noticeable that which is not known to all, and planning accordingly.


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The benefit of this power is to extend the deadline, I am curious what scenario you think would be a better use of the power than the one we are in.

I am a little worried that this was an attempt to have this power used - perhaps a little early, firstly, in an attempt to use it, so that it could not be used more strategically in a later, tighter, setting, and secondly, to narrow down the list of allomantic skills and powers that those of gathered here possess between us.

Having lost the potentially powerful weapon of infection, the infiltrators must choose carefully whom they wish to remove when they choose to exercise the power of the 'Duraluminium Gnat' (Kamikaze); obviously, such a power could be better - as in, more usefully - deployed against an allomancer who wields greater powers.
 
I was sceptical of Pluto trying to flush things out (priest, hunter) day one....turns out he's one of the good guys (if he really is the undertaker, can't imagine him lying though).

i was thinking of this too. if somehow thats why southerndad was killed, if they found out he was the real auger, they needed to silence him. just a thought.
 
i was thinking of this too. if somehow thats why southerndad was killed, if they found out he was the real auger, they needed to silence him. just a thought.

Not a bad shout actually. I'm on my phone now and checking the rules this way is a real pita, but this could be a possibility if this part-time seer would be an inquisitor plus his action would be used (and thus the info gathered) before the killing occurs. All this would involve quite some (bad) luck. Doubt it myself even if it theoretically would be possible.
 
Not a bad shout actually. I'm on my phone now and checking the rules this way is a real pita, but this could be a possibility if this part-time seer would be an inquisitor plus his action would be used (and thus the info gathered) before the killing occurs. All this would involve quite some (bad) luck. Doubt it myself even if it theoretically would be possible.

and then they infect qos, whose 100% clear. while we think there is no infection, and believe qos till the end.
 
I think what you are arguing is a possibility, but it is one which requires a rather large number of things to go right, simultaneously, which is asking a lot on the first night.

It requires that firstly, the Seeker is an Inquisitor, which is something we do not know, and most certainly cannot be certain of. Likewise, the other Allomancer with such a power, the Seer, cannot have been infected in the time available.

Moreover, it requires that Plutonius lied, (which - while not impossible - is unlikely as it can be challenged) about who he scanned, whether he scanned, and the precise nature of what that scan revealed.

The Chief Inquisitor must manage both a successful killing and a successful infection, both at night; this is a tall order, and either can go wrong (in an earlier incarnation, I've been a WW - and, had the dismal experience of suffering ignominy, when, at different times each of these actions were foiled; to carry both out simultaneously requires planning and luck and fortunate timing). I don't think it impossible; but I do think it unlikely.

There are simply too many individuals remaining, with too many disparate and different powers - who should and will be able to deal with this - for a successful Inquisitorial infection to have been carried out on the first night, without this becoming common knowledge within a fairly short period of time.

My take is that there may be a deliberate attempt to determine who has what power, and winnow individuals from that sort of list.
 
Well, as I said I don't think it's likely. Highly unlikely moreso (don't even know if it's possible re course of actions).
Don't think Rick meant the infection necesserily took place already though.

Anyway highly theoretically and I wouldn't waste too much thought on it personally.
 
DP, can you please give us the order of actions taking place at nighttime? Unless they are somewhere hidden in the OPs, but I really can't find them. Thanks!
 

This is becoming more fascinating by the minute. Quite extraordinary, in fact…...

Maybe I'm missing something here, but does that mean the regular WW is Kandra (or however it's called), took the power of Imaketouchtheme and just used it discreetly? Is there any other possibility? If not we've been quite lucky. Again. :)

Edit: ok, more like the leecher interferred. Too many roles too keep up to for me.
 
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I'm off now, but either we have very unexperienced WWs at hand or almost overconfident old hands trying to play mind games with us. I think it's the latter.
 
DP, can you please give us the order of actions taking place at nighttime? Unless they are somewhere hidden in the OPs, but I really can't find them. Thanks!

I had 't established a specific order of action for all actions
When applicable, all action will be occurring "simultaneously".
In most cases does not make any difference.
If it turns out we have a situation where it does, ill use my judgement
Time of pm could be a factor, but not necessarily
Who was ahead in the.voting? ( i can't look right now)

If any one has specific question re this, post or pm me
 
It can't be Sythas since touch was on 4 while Southern and Sythas were both at 6. I don't see any WW sacrificing the head, at least till the infection is out.

And besides it was Sythas's idea to kill touch anyway.

There is a distinct possibility that Sythas eliminated touch to clear himself but again, if that were true shouldn't Sythas have waited till day 2ans the infection was in play? Also Pluto I don't think it was a good idea to get astro to reveal his abilities so quick in the game I do doubt you.
 
It can't be Sythas since touch was on 4 while Southern and Sythas were both at 6. I don't see any WW sacrificing the head, at least till the infection is out.

And besides it was Sythas's idea to kill touch anyway.

There is a distinct possibility that Sythas eliminated touch to clear himself but again, if that were true shouldn't Sythas have waited till day 2ans the infection was in play? Also Pluto I don't think it was a good idea to get astro to reveal his abilities so quick in the game I do doubt you.

I do think that it was a good time to extend the turn since so many people didn't vote (i.e. I believe astroboy made the correct decision although I would have made it longer). The WW will win the game if everyone doesn't participate.

As far as Sythas, experienced WW players will vote for other WW. If you look at the sequence, Sythas only switched his vote after touch was guaranteed to be killed. Probability wise, both of the top two vote getters are probably villagers in which case the WW did not vote for either of the two or didn't vote at all.
 
I do think that it was a good time to extend the turn since so many people didn't vote (i.e. I believe astroboy made the correct decision although I would have made it longer). The WW will win the game if everyone doesn't participate.

As far as Sythas, experienced WW players will vote for other WW. If you look at the sequence, Sythas only switched his vote after touch was guaranteed to be killed. Probability wise, both of the top two vote getters are probably villagers in which case the WW did not vote for either of the two or didn't vote at all.

Actually I believe that to be incorrect. Let's recap:
Southern- 6 votes- Sythas votes for him(Southern while in a tie reached it first so he will die)
Sythas-6 votes, southern votes for him
Touch-4 votes

Sythas starts believing southern as an innocent(which he is) tells me to interject and I vote for touch
So:
Southern- 6
Sythas-5
touch-5

Sythas's plan is to save both himself and Southern. He says he will vote for touch if I do first( I do that)
So then Sythas votes and it becomes:
Southern-5
Sythas 5
touch-6

This is the crucial point. Sythas's vote guarantees touch's death. Sythas's vote matters in this.

Then southern votes and it becomes
Southern- 5
Sythas-4
touch-7


Sythas would not encourage the touch bandwagon if he was a WW, his vote in fact did kill touch and southern's vote cemented that.


But what do I know, I haven't played nearly as much as you:eek:

Onto the point of getting more people to vote? yes I can see why it was a good idea then.
 
As of post 222, it was
SouthernDad 7
Sythas 7
Touch 4
With SouthernDad winning the tiebreaker

In post 248, TechGod changed from Sythas to Touch
SouthernDad 7
Sythas 6
Touch 5

In post 249, Rick changed from SouthernDad to Touch
SouthernDad 6
Sythas 6
Touch 6
With SouthernDad winning the tiebreaker

In post 251, SouthernDad changed from Sythas to Touch
Touch 7
SouthernDad 6
Sythas 5
Note - At this point Touch was dead no matter what Sythas did.

In post 252, Sythas changed from SouthernDad to Touch
Touch 8
SouthernDad 5
Sythas 5
 
As of post 222, it was
SouthernDad 7
Sythas 7
Touch 4
With SouthernDad winning the tiebreaker

In post 248, TechGod changed from Sythas to Touch
SouthernDad 7
Sythas 6
Touch 5

In post 249, Rick changed from SouthernDad to Touch
SouthernDad 6
Sythas 6
Touch 6
With SouthernDad winning the tiebreaker

In post 251, SouthernDad changed from Sythas to Touch
Touch 7
SouthernDad 6
Sythas 5
Note - At this point Touch was dead no matter what Sythas did.

In post 252, Sythas changed from SouthernDad to Touch
Touch 8
SouthernDad 5
Sythas 5

Ok. So I was wrong, I thought so:eek:

So Sythas is dead now, correct?
 
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