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So are we assuming the WW specials were Leecher and Slider? Makes the most sense to me atm. But just in case, DP, can you please clarify what happens if a WW Kandra takes the power(s) of the Alpha? Can s/he infect as well? Wouldn't think so myself since it's no allomantic power, but who knows..
 
So are we assuming the WW specials were Leecher and Slider? Makes the most sense to me atm. But just in case, DP, can you please clarify what happens if a WW Kandra takes the power(s) of the Alpha? Can s/he infect as well? Wouldn't think so myself since it's no allomantic power, but who knows..





Not necessarily.

All we can assume is that one dead Inquisitor (imaketouchtheme), possessed the Allomantic power of being able to burn Bendalloy, which made him a Slider, enabling him to Compress Time, as was revealed by Plutonius, the Augur.

Nothing have been proven about any other Inquisitor. The only confirmed fact that we do know is that Astroboy has revealed himself to be able to burn Cadium, as a Misting Allomancer, which meant that he is a Pulser, able to Expand Time.

His use of this power - both the allomantic powers of expanding and collapsing time are one-offs - does not prove that his loyalties lie with the Inquisitors, given that a number of others seemed to promote the use of this power in the context of last night's - as yet not quite clear - events.

What is also clear is that the power of Time Compression - the power of the Inquisitor imaketouchtheme who is no longer with us, who, as an Allomancer could burn Bendalloy, - was invoked and used. Whether the intended use was benign (use it now for the benefit of the Rebels, to prevent any subsequent misuse), or malign (a subverted individual, or an individual with already conflicting or divided loyalties) remains unclear.

Equally, what is clear, though, is that the only person - or individual - who could have used - or been able to invoke - this power this past evening, now that its primary user was dead - is a Kandra. The Kandra's exact loyalties are as yet unclear, and the Kandra's identity, is, of course, unknown. The Kandra could have started as a rebel, or, as an inquisitor. Indeed, the Kandra could also have been infected…….
 
What makes you rule out the possibility of the Leecher countering astroboy's deadline extension? I have no idea why a loyal rebel should use the power to shorten the deadline??

You are right of course in that Astroboy's status is still unclear.

Re Kandra: I'm just curious as to what happens if the third WW is the Kandra and took over the 'identity' of iTouch after we lynched him. Would s/he also be able to infect afterwards? I still think no but would welcome any clarification by DP. And if yes, would that be possible right away or would s/he have to wait till the next night.
 
What makes you rule out the possibility of the Leecher countering astroboy's deadline extension? I have no idea why a loyal rebel should use the power to shorten the deadline??

You are right of course in that Astroboy's status is still unclear.

Re Kandra: I'm just curious as to what happens if the third WW is the Kandra and took over the 'identity' of iTouch after we lynched him. Would s/he also be able to infect afterwards? I still think no but would welcome any clarification by DP. And if yes, would that be possible right away or would s/he have to wait till the next night.

This just changes the game then. I assumed the infection could no longer be in play however I forgot about the Kandra.
 
Astroboy, could you please post if your extended time was shortened. I thought you stated something about editing your extended time post.

If it was shortened, it was the Kandra. Either
1) The player wanted to use the power before grabbing another one (and he though Sythas might be guilty).
2) The Kandra is WoodNUFC and he was protecting himself.
3) The Kandra is a WW trying to cause trouble.

Indeed, the Kandra could also have been infected……

Touch died before night so the Kandra couldn't be infected. Besides that, even if Touch was not killed, there would still be a zero chance of infection since the infection conditions were not met yet. Comments like that are really starting to make me wonder.
 
Astroboy, could you please post if your extended time was shortened. I thought you stated something about editing your extended time post.

If it was shortened, it was the Kandra. Either
1) The player wanted to use the power before grabbing another one (and he though Sythas might be guilty).
2) The Kandra is WoodNUFC and he was protecting himself.
3) The Kandra is a WW trying to cause trouble.



Touch died before night so the Kandra couldn't be infected. Besides that, even if Touch was not killed, there would still be a zero chance of infection since the infection conditions were not met yet. Comments like that are really starting to make me wonder.



I was dashing off to a meeting and wrote the above too rapidly, without my usual editorial eye pausing, re-reading and double-checking before I transmitted it to the ether. Back at a normal desk, meetings for the day over, I can pause and think before writing, and, more importantly, before hitting 'send'……...


At this stage, we are speculating, although I think it more likely that Astroboy's attempt to extend time was abruptly terminated by the use of the Slider power, (imakeouchtheme's power) rather by any use of the 'Leecher' power. However, until matters are clarified, we don't really know. This means it can only have been used by a Kandra, who has assumed the body - and hence, the Allomantic powers - of imaketouchtheme.

I am pretty certain that the WW infection has not come into play, (mainly because the conditions to be able to invoke it successfully it were not met), and I suspect strongly that what we have just witnessed is an expression of the sheer adaptability of the Kandras.

My understanding of the situation is that the Kandra will not be able to use the infection power of the Inquisitor, but will be able to use whatever Allomantic power exists in a body that has been borrowed.

So, this power was used to either prevent it being used elsewhere, or, at another time, as a sort of preventative measure:

Or, it was used to copper fasten the fate of Sythas, because the Kandra believed - possibly - in his guilt:

Or, as you so rightly point out, the Kandra could well be WoodNUFC, protecting himself:

Or, the Kandra is an Inquisitor and has had this allegiance since our band came together.

Just because the Kandra has inhabited the body of imaketouchtheme does not mean the Kandra's primary allegiance has changed; the Kandra's initial allegiance would have to have been with the Inquisitors for that to have been the case (or, alternatively, been infected, which we know cannot have taken place).

However, clarification would be rather welcome…...
 
If it was shortened, it was the Kandra. Either
1) The player wanted to use the power before grabbing another one (and he though Sythas might be guilty).
2) The Kandra is WoodNUFC and he was protecting himself.
3) The Kandra is a WW trying to cause

Altight, thanks for stating this. What do you mean by 'grabbing another one' though? There were good reasons to lynch Sythas so if not today we quite likely could have done it tomorrow, so I tend to think it wasn't 1). But just a guess of course.

2+3 could be the same though (wood being a ww).

I have serious problems figuring the different deadlines out. I have to play via iphone with limit time - different timezones are always causing me trouble. So the final deadline wasn't the original one and thus the Leecher wasn't involved, correct?
 
Apologies then :D. I don't believe that the Kendra could grab the infection but I would like a clarification from "Don't Panic".

Note - I thought the game started with 18 players ? From the postings, it looks like I was wrong and only 6 or so people are actually playing.

So the final deadline wasn't the original one and thus the Leecher wasn't involved, correct?

The final deadline wasn't the original and the Pulser (Astroboy) was involved. The only question I have is what was the time extended by since Astroboy said he had edited the post. If the deadline was ended early, it was either the Kendra (stealing Touch's power) or the Leecher (as you just suggested) canceling the extension.
 
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Altight, thanks for stating this. What do you mean by 'grabbing another one' though? There were good reasons to lynch Sythas so if not today we quite likely could have done it tomorrow, so I tend to think it wasn't 1). But just a guess of course.

2+3 could be the same though (wood being a ww).

I have serious problems figuring the different deadlines out. I have to play via iphone with limit time - different timezones are always causing me trouble. So the final deadline wasn't the original one and thus the Leecher wasn't involved, correct?


No, we do not know that the Leecher wasn't involved. Nonetheless, as it is another one off power, (meaning it can only be used once) unless it was a pressing matter of life-and-death, (such as WoodNUFC protecting himself) I cannot see how the circumstances justified it being consumed just then.

However, for now, I am assuming that the Kandra ingested imaketouchtheme's remains and thus acquired the Allomantic power that imaketouchtheme (by all the gods of all of the religions I have ever studied, please, please amend that name) had, namely that of accelerating, or extending, or stretching, time, i.e. the power of a Slider.

We know that imaketouchtheme had this power because Plutonius told us so. We also know that he didn't get to use it before he died because the narrative would have told us so. The only way that this power could have been used is if a Kandra - and we have every reason to believe that one is around - inhabited and ingested the remains of the late Inquisitor.


Re the question of "Grabbing another body"; the Kandra is a very different form of life, and can take the form of any deceased individual, replicating them so exactly that even one who knew the original may well be fooled. The ingestion process takes some time, and is not therefore, immediately effective.

Thus, the Kandra can ingest the remains of imaketouchtheme and will naturally be able to access whatever Allomantic abilities that late Inquisitor possessed. After that, the Kandra can ingest another set of remains, while discarding the first, and so on.

However, the Kandra can only ingest one set of remains at a time, and thus, wield one type of Allomantic power at a time. If the remains ingested by the Kandra are those of an Allomancer with a one-off set of powers - i.e. the Slider, or Pulser, and this power has already been invoked, then the Kandra is not able to wield any Allomantic power from that particular set of remains.

After more lamentable deaths, (because none of us suffering from excessive naivety, we consider it highly likely that there will be more deaths), the Kandra will be able, in turn, to ingest any of their remains, and will thus acquire their Allomantic abilities, if any.

Re deadlines, as it happens, I am currently - in another dimension - in central Asia. I always have difficulty figuring deadlines out, real, virtual and altered.
 
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sorry for the long delay, as i mentioned i had a busy family weekend and was keeping tag on my phone, which eventually died.
I am writing the narration and will post asap

as far as kandra's allegiance, from the posted rules (yes, those bits in red that nobody read ;)):
"If a kandra acquires an inquisitor’s body, they do not switch allegiance. However a kandra CAN be recruited by the Inquisition, and will retain their power"

final tally was sythas, 5 woodnufc 5, with sythas having the tiebreaker.
 
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