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With the activation of the Bought Man, all those scans mean nothing. The only person I trust is myself, because I KNOW I am a loyal.
 
With the activation of the Bought Man, all those scans mean nothing. The only person I trust is myself, because I KNOW I am a loyal.

Not true.


Fun fact, until now Rick always casted his votes very early while Roric tends to do it midterm/end-ish. Also Roric never switched his vote while Rick never did it at the beginning but the last three days at least once.
 
With the activation of the Bought Man, all those scans mean nothing. The only person I trust is myself, because I KNOW I am a loyal.
Nope - we had that discussion and SS would have spotted the Bought Man even if not bought so Bought Man has to be Roric, Rick or Twietee.

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That's a good question actually, I hadn't thought of that possibility. For the purposes of this game, assume another traitor must target the red man to activate him. He/she cannot target himself.
I hadn't thought of it until just now, going through the possibilities of who could be left.

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Not true.


Fun fact, until now Rick always casted his votes very early while Roric tends to do it midterm/end-ish. Also Roric never switched his vote while Rick never did it at the beginning but the last three days at least once.
True - not sure how that helps us though. You implying you think Rick has been bought recently?
 
Have to say I agree with Roric too.

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Lords and Ladies, there are 9 left, so majority of 5 is needed for a swift demise. Poor Roric is already over half way there.

Potential Traitors
Roric: 3 ravenvii, twietee, FenrisMoonlight

Yet to vote: WoodNUFC, Roric, Moyank24, Sythas, rick snagwell, Queen of Spades,

Accusations
Post 1229 ravenvii accused Roric
Post 1230 twietee accused Roric
Post 1231 FenrisMoonlight accused Roric

FenrisMoonlight - Squire in service of the King's Justice
 
Um, if you know you're innocent, why u vote for Sythas? WHY? :p

Why not? Everyone else seems to be ignoring logic and their own thoughts even.

If I was the bad guy, why would I kill one of the unknowns, narrowing down the list to myself and one other? Puts me right back into the situation of the previous day, 50/50 chance of being lynched. I would have gone for one of the others, like a known special. Eliminate a voting loyal, but not eliminate the uncertainty.
 
Why not? Everyone else seems to be ignoring logic and their own thoughts even.

If I was the bad guy, why would I kill one of the unknowns, narrowing down the list to myself and one other? Puts me right back into the situation of the previous day, 50/50 chance of being lynched. I would have gone for one of the others, like a known special. Eliminate a voting loyal, but not eliminate the uncertainty.

Yea, well Rick could say the exact same thing and yet one of you two is definitely a bad guy. Yes, theoretically me too, but I'm not and am also, besides ravenvii, the only one who voted for all three Traitors. So still don't understand why you vote for Sythas, except Rick's the other one we're searching for (then the Koodauw killing would make some sense actually too)...:p
 
Booooooooo to the absentee bad guy, Comeagain?.

Anyway. Well done. I'm with Fenris, based on the votes it leans Sythas' way for me. I need to do another once through, though.

Scanned as good loyal by SS - could be Sneak if sneak left alive
Fenris, Moyank24, ravenvii, Sythas

So still don't understand why you vote for Sythas,

Seems Sythas' name comes up a lot and I know the one you are hunting for is not me.
 
Yea, well Rick could say the exact same thing and yet one of you two is definitely a bad guy. Yes, theoretically me too, but I'm not and am also, besides ravenvii, the only one who voted for all three Traitors. So still don't understand why you vote for Sythas, except Rick's the other one we're searching for (then the Koodauw killing would make some sense actually too)...:p
It is possible neither of them is but it requires Twietee to be Bought Man and one of Sythas, ravenvii, moyank24 and me to be Sneak. I think its more likely one of the two is. I'm going to switch to rick for the moment and try to work out some probabilities later.

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Seems Sythas' name comes up a lot and I know the one you are hunting for is not me.
If he's not a traitor then voting Sythas does make sense (as would voting Twietee) since he knows both traitors can't be amongst Rick and Roric.
 
If he's not a traitor then voting Sythas does make sense (as would voting Twietee) since he knows both traitors can't be amongst Rick and Roric.

I don't care who he's voting for. He's just not going to attract many followers when voting for Sythas at this point, that was all I was suggesting. And I'd doubt voting for me would help too. Why he's not voting for Rick? I have no clue, but he'll have his reasons.
 
Why not? Everyone else seems to be ignoring logic and their own thoughts even.

If I was the bad guy, why would I kill one of the unknowns, narrowing down the list to myself and one other? Puts me right back into the situation of the previous day, 50/50 chance of being lynched. I would have gone for one of the others, like a known special. Eliminate a voting loyal, but not eliminate the uncertainty.
Nope, not ignoring logic, there's a chance Twietee could be Bought Man and there's a chance one of the 4 scanned people could be Sneak assuming Sneak hasn't been one of the 3 killed traitors. There's a chance Roric and rick could be Bought Man or the 1 remaining traitor. Without actually working out the probabilities, I think its

Roric, Rick - highest probability of at least 1 possibly 2 out of traitor/bought man

Twietee - next highest probability that he is bought man.

Sythas, Moyank, ravenvii, me - lowest probability that 1 of these is Sneak.

I admit I don't understand killing of Koodauw - seems like an inexperienced kill to me but most of those left alive look like more experinced players to me. Maybe its intended to try and throw us off the scent of someone more experienced or someone amongst Rick, Roric who wants to try to move suspicion away from themselves to others.

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I don't care who he's voting for. He's just not going to attract many followers when voting for Sythas at this point, that was all I was suggesting. And I'd doubt voting for me would help too. Why he's not voting for Rick? I have no clue, but he'll have his reasons.
Yeah voting Rick would be his best chance at surviving today.
 
Roric, Rick - highest probability of at least 1 possibly 2 out of traitor/bought man

Twietee - next highest probability that he is bought man.

Sythas, Moyank, ravenvii, me - lowest probability that 1 of these is Sneak.

Strange list. I'm not the next highest probability but the only one. Also, why do the 4 scanned people have the lowest probability of containing the Sneak? Doesn't make much sense this way imho.

Possible BoughtMan: Rorick and twietee

Possible Sneak: Rorick, Fenris, Sythas, Moyank and ravenvii


edit: sounds quite harsh (?), isn't meant that way though.

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If probability is meant regarding voting behavior I'd partly agree, although I'm not sure why Roric/Rick are more suspicious of being the Sneak than you or Sythas.
 
Strange list. I'm not the next highest probability but the only one. Also, why do the 4 scanned people have the lowest probability of containing the Sneak? Doesn't make much sense this way.

Possible BoughtMan: Rorick and twietee

Possible Sneak: Rorick, Fenris, Sythas, Moyank and ravenvii
OK, out of the 9 left, 3 could be bought man and 6 the remaining traitor if sneak is the remaining traitor or 2 if sneak isn't the remaining traitor. Assuming sneak is alive

Roric/Rick have a 1/3 + 1/6 = 3/6 = 1/2 = 50% chance of being a traitor

Twitee has a 1/3 = 33.3% chance of being a traitor

Fenris, Sythas, Moyank, ravenvii have a 1/6 = 16.6% chance of being a traitor.

Assuming sneak is dead we get

Roric/Rick have a 1/3 + 1/2 = 5/6 = 83.3% chance of being a traitor

and

Twietee has a 1/3 = 33.3% chance of being a traitor


Fenris, Sythas, Moyank, ravenvii have a 0% chance of being a traitor.

I have to figure out how to build the odds of us having already killed the sneak into that but that's going to leave your probability the same and Roric/Rick and the 4 scanned somewhere in between the two scenarios above. So, either way its Roric/Rick highest chance, you next, and the 4 last.

Edit: Note this is a simplistic model that just uses chance of each player being a traitor role. DP could probably build a much more sophisticated one that takes into account chance of us having killed the sneak and chances of Vulture/MoW protecting/scanning the bought man/sneak.
 
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Wow.. I was not expecting that nighttime outcome! Seems like a misstep by the traitors.

Roric is the top of my list... but I'll hold off on voting for now. No need to rush into a lock.
 
Roric (3) - ravenvii, twietee, rick
Sythas (1) - Roric
Rick (1) - Fenris


Since we go after Rick the next day quite likely anyway (if he's not killed at night that is :p) we could speed things a bit up and vote for Roric, no?
 
So one more vote and I am dead, so here goes why I voted for Sythas...

Comeagain? was a Traitor. I think he was The Dirk. That leaves The Bought Man. I think the last person we are looking for is hiding among the previously scanned. Remember, The Bought Man is a loyal until found by The Dirk. So I think The Bought Man is either Sythas, Fenris, Ravenvii, or Moyank. I just randomly chose Sythas.
 
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