yep. The hunters can be infected as well and whats worse is they keep their powers.
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[WW] The MRville Horror, Part 3 GAME OVER - Villagers Win!
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yep. The hunters can be infected as well and whats worse is they keep their powers.
Risky yes. But lets say tooz is a WW. He is safe from the vamps trying to take revenge on him. heck right now it is less than a 50/50 if the seer is still even alive so it can be a safe move to pretend to be the SEER
I think he can but this time I think it is safe to assume our hunter is not one of the infected ones because if he was any chance of him being infects is shot. He took out the last wolf that could of possible infected someone.
ok so we have
scenario 1:
tooz is the seer. it means of the 5 indicated by him (rodimus, maxbearpig, mscriv, gelfin, melrose) 2 are vamps and one is a ww. if we leave out melrose (who barred a master stroke is a good guy), it leaves rodimus and maxbearpig as possible vamps and one of gelfin and mscriv as ww (or any other combo).
we lynch one vamp and the vamp hunter kills (tries to) the other. ww and/or surviving vamp try to eat someone the next night (with or without success).
the same night tooz scans one of the two survivors and we know who to lynch the next day.
scenario 2:
tooz is a vampire, pretending to be the seer. in this case ucf is the likely second vampire. if after the first two kills, we find out he was lying, he's toast. plus consider the risk that his play was discovered right away if the specials were not distributed as he said (but he could know who the vamp hunter is if he tried to kill him the previous night, even though i think there would be traces of that attempt in raven's narrative, as with the failed ww attack)
scenario 3:
tooz is the last ww pretending to be the seer. why would he protect ucf? plus the risk of getting caught as above
scenario 4:
tooz is the seer, but is now a ww. his 'vision' is true, and 2 of the 4 are the vamps, still worth to get rid of. might have to sacrifice another two innocents before turning against him.
5: can you tell i got my hands on a computer instead of the phone tonight?
p.s: i am probably missing something, so please add to the analysis everyone
well things I would worry about is the vamps right now would want to keep the last WW alive to hunt at night.
While this might seem against first though but in the long run they know it works out better for them. The reason for this is because the Vamps can not kill the Vamp hunter but the WW can. As it stands they will always be able to out vote the WW and have the WW lynch in the end.
Also remember we had failed attacks on night 4. That means that night the Vamps could of been active but they ended up attacking with the VH, one of the 3 WW or the person VH was protecting. The WW on the other hand could of end up hitting one of the Vamps. That means no one dies that night.
These also means that the vamps have some insider guess on who the missing WW is.
While this might seem against first though but in the long run they know it works out better for them. The reason for this is because the Vamps can not kill the Vamp hunter but the WW can. As it stands they will always be able to out vote the WW and have the WW lynch in the end.
Also remember we had failed attacks on night 4. That means that night the Vamps could of been active but they ended up attacking with the VH, one of the 3 WW or the person VH was protecting. The WW on the other hand could of end up hitting one of the Vamps. That means no one dies that night.
These also means that the vamps have some insider guess on who the missing WW is.
Some quick analysis and theory:
I believe jav6454, abijnk, and renewed were the original three wolfies due to their consistent voting in the first two rounds and that they felt pretty in control of the game until round three when vote started coming in for jav6454. I bet they then infected someone in either round three or four so as to make their presence stronger.
The obvious candidates for infection are Rodimus Prime, Tomorrow, and Mexbearpig. In the day 4 voting Rodimus and Tomorrow both voted for renewed only after majority had been reached. Mexbearpig never voted for renewed at all, but played it safe with a vote for King Mook Mook.
In regards to werewolf suspicion I'm clearing King Mook Mook, Gelfin, Don't Panic, tooz, ucfgrad93, and myself based on the votes from the 4th day. These people all voted for renewed either initially or right after abijnk was killed with the exception of ucfgrad93 who voted for abijnk initially.
I believe melrose is the wwhunter as he claims. I'm not quite sold on tooz yet unless he's willing to give us a little more info, like his scanning order.
I believe ucfgrad93 to be a villager/special as well due to his voting record, the possibility of tooz telling the truth, and the fact that he was targeted by werewolves. There just doesn't seem to be time to infect him with abijnk not knowing she was going to be killed and renewed being the kamikazi werewolf.
At this point the vampire possibilities are numerous but if we look at where things appear to stand.
Safe people from my perspectve at this point:
- Melrose - WW hunter
- ucfgrad93 - villager according to seer and votes
- Don't panic - villager according to seer and votes
- tooz - self proclaimed seer
- mscriv - self proclaimed villager backed up by votes and I know I'm not a baddie
Suspected wolf in sheeps clothing:
- Mexbearpig - suspected by the seer, claims innocence based on historical vote for jav6454
- Tomorrow - not suspected by the seer, need more info
- Rodimus Prime - suspected by seer, was out of game for while due to a TO, and has tossed around names a lot in what appears to be attempt to steer votes
Left over:
- Gelfin - suspected by seer
- King Mook Mook - not suspected by the seer, has been quiet lately, but claims this is due to school
I admit that all of this is theory and that I'm putting some trust is what others have said, like Don't panic, tooz, and melrose. I really think we need to hear more from tooz and that the vampire hunter does need to take a shot or possbly make himself known. Between my analysis and what the seer has said we come up with three names:
It looks like Rodimus is headed to the gallows so maybe a vamp insta-kill would be a good option for Gelfin or Mexbearpig.
I believe jav6454, abijnk, and renewed were the original three wolfies due to their consistent voting in the first two rounds and that they felt pretty in control of the game until round three when vote started coming in for jav6454. I bet they then infected someone in either round three or four so as to make their presence stronger.
The obvious candidates for infection are Rodimus Prime, Tomorrow, and Mexbearpig. In the day 4 voting Rodimus and Tomorrow both voted for renewed only after majority had been reached. Mexbearpig never voted for renewed at all, but played it safe with a vote for King Mook Mook.
In regards to werewolf suspicion I'm clearing King Mook Mook, Gelfin, Don't Panic, tooz, ucfgrad93, and myself based on the votes from the 4th day. These people all voted for renewed either initially or right after abijnk was killed with the exception of ucfgrad93 who voted for abijnk initially.
I believe melrose is the wwhunter as he claims. I'm not quite sold on tooz yet unless he's willing to give us a little more info, like his scanning order.
I believe ucfgrad93 to be a villager/special as well due to his voting record, the possibility of tooz telling the truth, and the fact that he was targeted by werewolves. There just doesn't seem to be time to infect him with abijnk not knowing she was going to be killed and renewed being the kamikazi werewolf.
At this point the vampire possibilities are numerous but if we look at where things appear to stand.
Safe people from my perspectve at this point:
- Melrose - WW hunter
- ucfgrad93 - villager according to seer and votes
- Don't panic - villager according to seer and votes
- tooz - self proclaimed seer
- mscriv - self proclaimed villager backed up by votes and I know I'm not a baddie
Suspected wolf in sheeps clothing:
- Mexbearpig - suspected by the seer, claims innocence based on historical vote for jav6454
- Tomorrow - not suspected by the seer, need more info
- Rodimus Prime - suspected by seer, was out of game for while due to a TO, and has tossed around names a lot in what appears to be attempt to steer votes
Left over:
- Gelfin - suspected by seer
- King Mook Mook - not suspected by the seer, has been quiet lately, but claims this is due to school
I admit that all of this is theory and that I'm putting some trust is what others have said, like Don't panic, tooz, and melrose. I really think we need to hear more from tooz and that the vampire hunter does need to take a shot or possbly make himself known. Between my analysis and what the seer has said we come up with three names:
I can assure you beyond all reasonable doubt that Ufcgrad93 is not a baddie.
100% surethat the wolf/vampires are three of these people:
mscriv
Mexbearpig
Rodimus Prime
Gelfin
melrose
It looks like Rodimus is headed to the gallows so maybe a vamp insta-kill would be a good option for Gelfin or Mexbearpig.
All sounds reasonable except for the fact I know there's got to be a flaw somewhere, which makes me just suspect tooz' motives more.
Oh, I'm not sure I'm ready to go that far, though I've considered it. The other flaw could, of course, could be that I'm not entirely buying mscriv's justification for scratching himself off his own list.
Oh, I'm not sure I'm ready to go that far, though I've considered it. The other flaw could, of course, could be that I'm not entirely buying mscriv's justification for scratching himself off his own list.
yeah I kind of agree with you as well. But enough is out there that I do not think ucfgrade93 is high enough on my list any more. I know I am not the WW or a vamp so I am going to go with my most likely candidate.
Current vote
Rodimus Prime: 4 (Ucfgrad93,Gelfin,Don't panic,Tomorrow)
Ucfgrad93: 2 (Rodimus Prime, Mexbearpig, Melrose)
mscriv:1 (, tooz)
tooz:1 (Rodimus Prime)
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King Mook Mook
mscriv
for what we know, instakill might already have been dispatched, but it could take some time before ravenvii can process it, depending on when he can log on.
i am also curious to see what is the vamphunter weapon
Um.... not correct. Either you are "misremembering", you can't count, or you are scrambling for a defense.
Post #786
At this point Don't panic had prevoted renewed and I had cast my own vote for him in post #781 which meant only 5 more were needed for majority.
Post #793 - Gelfin votes for renewed (3 votes against)
Post #794 - willbro votes for renewed (4 votes against)
Post #797 - tooz votes for renewed (5 votes against)
Post #799 - King Mook Mook votes for renewed (6 votes against)
Post #800 - ibookG4user votes for renewed (7 votes against & majority reached)
Your vote comes in at post #801 a full 12 minutes after ibook's vote sealed the deal. I might add that you did so with some fanfare as well.
just sayin'
Hi all, again! I'll keep this short and sweet, as I don't have much time (damn, Friday mornings are a chore! ) so I'll vote for UCFGrad93 so we can keep things moving along! And sorry in advance if you're a villager (if you're not, I'm not sorry you fiend!)
) so I'll vote for UCFGrad93 so we can keep things moving along! And sorry in advance if you're a villager (if you're not, I'm not sorry you fiend!)
Hi all, again! I'll keep this short and sweet, as I don't have much time (damn, Friday mornings are a chore!
hi king mook mook,
if you have time i suggest that you read the last couple of pages of the thread, because there is a lot of new information/speculation that might affect your vote in various directions.
and, doesn't mscriv avatar preclude him from being a vampire?
Um.... not correct. Either you are "misremembering", you can't count, or you are scrambling for a defense.
Post #786
At this point Don't panic had prevoted renewed and I had cast my own vote for him in post #781 which meant only 5 more were needed for majority.
Post #793 - Gelfin votes for renewed (3 votes against)
Post #794 - willbro votes for renewed (4 votes against)
Post #797 - tooz votes for renewed (5 votes against)
Post #799 - King Mook Mook votes for renewed (6 votes against)
Post #800 - ibookG4user votes for renewed (7 votes against & majority reached)
Your vote comes in at post #801 a full 12 minutes after ibook's vote sealed the deal. I might add that you did so with some fanfare as well.
just sayin'
It more because I missed tooz vote when I was counting. It was not the first time.
This. for the shortlist I am as blind as you.
Oh, believe me I acknowledge that. Sorta wishing he'd scanned me. Now I have to worry about monsters and villagers.
Something has been bugging me a lot, though: tooz reported a shortlist of five names he had not yet scanned, out of ten remaining villagers. Of course he left himself off the list, so he has scanned four of the living players. Since it is day five, he has had exactly four opportunities to scan. Which means that, quite improbably, every player tooz has scanned throughout the game has survived, even though we've lost half the players. Seer or not, I am not really convinced tooz is telling us everything.
Luck of the draw. I generally scanned the quieter ones because I thought they would be the most likely.
Last 'night' I was tossing up to scan willbro and ufcgrad93, but ended up scanning ufcgrad93.
The other thing I thought of is that maybe one of my previous scans got infected after I scanned them.
seeing as it is sorta pot-luck, I might as wel get the game moving and vote for Rodimus
Current vote
Rodimus Prime: 5 (Ucfgrad93, Gelfin, Don't Panic, Tomorrow, Tooz)
Ucfgrad93: 3 (Maxbearpig, Melrose, King Mook Mook)
tooz:1 (Rodimus Prime)
being difficult: mscriv
Rodimus Prime: 5 (Ucfgrad93, Gelfin, Don't Panic, Tomorrow, Tooz)
Ucfgrad93: 3 (Maxbearpig, Melrose, King Mook Mook)
tooz:1 (Rodimus Prime)
being difficult: mscriv
well since I am screwed I might as well screw over the vamps.
Yes the missing infect WW is me but the failed attack on night 4 was on Griffin so unless the WW hunter protected him he is the vamp. If I can not kill this town I sure as hell will not let the vamps take it. I really like the sexy waitress who serves the beers at the bar and I do not want the vamps to kill her. Plus she gave me some great times.
Screw you all.
Vamp hunter I recomend an instant kill of Griffin and look at the short list who Griffin avoided voting for to take out the other vamp.
Yes the missing infect WW is me but the failed attack on night 4 was on Griffin so unless the WW hunter protected him he is the vamp. If I can not kill this town I sure as hell will not let the vamps take it. I really like the sexy waitress who serves the beers at the bar and I do not want the vamps to kill her. Plus she gave me some great times.
Screw you all.
Vamp hunter I recomend an instant kill of Griffin and look at the short list who Griffin avoided voting for to take out the other vamp.
haha. a confession!
you did the right thing, Rodimus.
After all, you were once one of us.
and now to the gallows! (pending one more vote)
then on with the vampires. run them out of town!
Yeah I know I was dead so I figured I would trying to get the vamps nailed before the majority got me. The failed attack was on Griffin who I will change my vote 2 because I might was well show it. Does not matter that I know who the seer is. I do find it odd that our SEER never scanned any of the vamps or WW. Odds are really low that it done to such a low number.
Either way our WW hunter knows if they protect Griffin that one night. If they did not then Griffin is a vamp. Melrose I suggest that you report who you protect night 4.
I knew it!
Seriously, it's kind of you to save the trouble and confess, but obviously you have no motivation to help the village either, which would explain why you're just sowing chaos now.
Assuming the other instakill is still out there (still a little confused on that point), naturally you'd have the last laugh by getting us to waste it.
Trying to save your self. I know I can keep pointing to finger until the majority is reach.I knew it!
Seriously, it's kind of you to save the trouble and confess, but obviously you have no motivation to help the village either, which would explain why you're just sowing chaos now.
I would rather the villagers win than the Vamps.
I was trying to figure out how to turn the votes against you but you had a pretty good case for not being a WW. But a poor case for not being a vamp. Vamp Hunter I suggest you protect Tooz tonight and let him scan Griffin and it will prove that I am not lieing.
Um, duh.
Most kind again, but obviously I am in the best position to know you don't mean it.
There's not a good case for or against. I give you props for the attempt, though.
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