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3) Rodimus Prime - suspected by seer, was out of game for while due to a TO

I would like to point out that I was I suspect and vote jav6454 the 2nd day. I voted for him the 2nd day before I was put in TO.
 
VOTE CHANGE:

I hereby withdraw my vote for mscriv, without comment.

Thank you sir. Did you get that paypal deposit I made? ;)

No, seriously, you are a wise man. The only way we all get out of this now is to work together and not just vote to move things along based on false information.

Melrose, do you still have that voting record you used to have posted. I believe it was in your signature? That's what helped me in the past.
 
Another thought is if the vamp hunter's insta-kill is still available then maybe that could be used this round to take out a vamp/ww.

Ravenvii can you clear this up for us a little bit by explaining the cirucmstances of renewed's death? I'm still unclear as to whether he was killed by a hunter's insta-kill or if it was something else? Do we have an insta-kill still available to us or are we out of chances? I guess the vamp hunter could clear this up as well, but I understand if you want to keep your anonymity. To me this is a key piece of information that we need for this voting round.
 
Present status:

1) Melrose - believed to be WW hunter
2) ucfgrad93 - claims to be villager with backing of self proclaimed seer tooz
3) Rodimus Prime - suspected by seer, was out of game for while due to a TO
4) Gelfin - suspected by seer
5) Don't panic - claims to be villager with backing of self proclaimed seer tooz
6) tooz - self proclaimed seer
7) King Mook Mook - not suspected by the seer, has been quiet lately, but claims this is due to school
8) Tomorrow - not suspected by the seer
9) mscriv - villager
10)Mexbearpig - suspected by the seer, claims innocence based on historical vote for jav6454

:)

"claims". claims?!?!?
after I led the campaign to hang jav when the momentum had shifted towards willbro, thus saving his non-hairy skin (well, temporarily- your number was up bro);
suggesting that jav and abj were consorting;
calling their queen's sacrifice move;
voting (alone for a while) for renewed when everyone else was zooming in on our supposed ww-hunter;
campaigning in Melrose's defense and suggesting he used the instakill to prove his hunterness;

and still you aren't convinced.
meh. if it wasn't for that horrible, horrible blood disease i'd volunteer as the next meal, but i am afraid they'd only get madder. :)

I'm tempted to vote you but i'll go with rodimus first.

in any case, if our self-proclaimed seer turns out to be right on his shrt list, i suggest the vamp hunter picks another one from that list right away, before the night killing(s) can occurr
 
Interesting to me that nobody is really challenging tooz's claim to be the seer.

I mean, nobody else has stepped up to contradict that and say they're the seer instead.
 
Okay, yeah, you know what? On reflection, I don't think Rodimus is any worse a pick than mscriv. Based on tooz' own statement, he hasn't scanned either of them, so his picking mscriv instead of Rodimus really doesn't carry any weight. He doesn't know any better than we do. And Rodimus' position could have been planned in advance, since frankly renewed and abijnk were both pretty heavily suspected.

I'm therefore going to switch my vote to Rodimus.
 
Ravenvii can you clear this up for us a little bit by explaining the cirucmstances of renewed's death? I'm still unclear as to whether he was killed by a hunter's insta-kill or if it was something else? Do we have an insta-kill still available to us or are we out of chances? I guess the vamp hunter could clear this up as well, but I understand if you want to keep your anonymity. To me this is a key piece of information that we need for this voting round.

Renewed was a kamikaze werewolf who was hanged and his attack failed because he attacked someone who is immune to werewolf attack or was protected the prior night.
 
I agree with Gelfin - Rodimus Prime is as good a vote, at this point, as mscriv.

I know you voted for jav6454 way back when, but there's the possibility that you are the infected werewolf who was not yet infected at the time of that vote. Or, you could just be a vampire.
 
Renewed was a kamikaze werewolf who was hanged and his attack failed because he attacked someone who is immune to werewolf attack or was protected the prior night.

Thank you for the explanation, that clears some things up a bit.

"claims". claims?!?!? ....

meh. if it wasn't for that horrible, horrible blood disease i'd volunteer as the next meal, but i am afraid they'd only get madder. :)

I'm tempted to vote you but i'll go with rodimus first.

Easy boy, you know that at this point everyone's defense is a claim until we have solid proof. Don't take offense, the same could be said about me. These blood disease comments are confusing me. :confused:

in any case, if our self-proclaimed seer turns out to be right on his short list, i suggest the vamp hunter picks another one from that list right away, before the night killing(s) can occurr

On this we definitely agree.

Stay tuned everyone, my vote history is coming up.
 
Okay, yeah, you know what? On reflection, I don't think Rodimus is any worse a pick than mscriv. Based on tooz' own statement, he hasn't scanned either of them, so his picking mscriv instead of Rodimus really doesn't carry any weight. He doesn't know any better than we do. And Rodimus' position could have been planned in advance, since frankly renewed and abijnk were both pretty heavily suspected.

I'm therefore going to switch my vote to Rodimus.

But he has not scanned you either and you could easily be one of the vamps.
 
Thank you for the explanation, that clears some things up a bit.



Easy boy, you know that at this point everyone's defense is a claim until we have solid proof. Don't take offense, the same could be said about me. These blood disease comments are confusing me. :confused:



On this we definitely agree.

Stay tuned everyone, my vote history is coming up.

hehe, don't worry i was just jesting.
as far as the blood thing, just doing my due diligence in letting the consumer know the product might not be of their liking, be them of the canine or chiroptera type.

i agree that at this point the voting history carries less weight, because the vamps would have voted like villagers until now and the 4th wolf could actually have been a villager for some of the votes.
some votes still count though. for example, both vamps and wolfies would have wanted the hunter dead.
 
Current Vote
Rodimus Prime: 4 (Ucfgrad93,Gelfin,Don't panic,Tomorrow)
Ucfgrad93: 3 (Rodimus Prime, Mexbearpig, Melrose)
mscriv:1 (, tooz)


Left to Vote

tooz
King Mook Mook
mscriv
 
But he has not scanned you either and you could easily be one of the vamps.

well, if tooz is the seer, than 3 out of mscriv, Mexbearpig, Rodimus Prime, Gelfin (less likely melrose) are bad news.
one should be lynched today, if bad, one more should be shot down right away, leaving two for the night to kill one or two people. if the hunter protects the tooz, tomorrow we will know for sure the true nature of one of the last two and take care of the bad one remaining.

the vamp hunter could even jump the gun and teminate one of the 4 immediately. if it is one of the bad guys, tooz is pretty much validated and we still can lynch on of the two baddies remaining.
yes, odds are bad for the one vanilla villager in that elite group, but consider it as taking one for the team.

if everything goes to plan, we should manage with only a couple additional casualties at most. if tooz is playing us, it gets tricky.
 
Melrose, do you still have that voting record you used to have posted. I believe it was in your signature? That's what helped me in the past.

I lost track of it amid the brief squabbling that transpired. I can go back and pick it up again if you'd like..?
 
well, if tooz is the seer, than 3 out of mscriv, Mexbearpig, Rodimus Prime, Gelfin (less likely melrose) are bad news.
one should be lynched today, if bad, one more should be shot down right away, leaving two for the night to kill one or two people. if the hunter protects the tooz, tomorrow we will know for sure the true nature of one of the last two and take care of the bad one remaining.

the vamp hunter could even jump the gun and teminate one of the 4 immediately. if it is one of the bad guys, tooz is pretty much validated and we still can lynch on of the two baddies remaining.
yes, odds are bad for the one vanilla villager in that elite group, but consider it as taking one for the team.

if everything goes to plan, we should manage with only a couple additional casualties at most. if tooz is playing us, it gets tricky.

Very true there. It would really be scary if tooz is playing us by being pretending to be the Seer to protect his other vamp buddy. Then we are all screwed. I can promise you all that the message I got from our host was telling me that the game started. Since I was not told I was a special it was safe to assume I was a villager.
I have 2 suspects in mind on who the vamps or WW are.
One is Ufcgrad93 and the other is Gelfin. I have more evidences that seems to link ufcgrad93 is likely candidate and I figured people would be more likely to vote for ufcgrad93 than Gelfin. I figured I would worry about Gelfin tomorrow.
 
Okay here's some game stats:

Active players voting history by days:
1. Melrose - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: iBlue, 3rd: willbro, 4th: abijnk changed to renewed after majority reached, 5th & current: ucfgrad93

2. ucfgrad93 - 1st: no vote, 2nd no vote, 3rd: jav6454, 4th: abijnk changed to renewed after majority reached, 5th & current: Rodimus Prime

3. Rodimus Prime - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: jav6454, 3rd: no vote in TO, 4th: melrose changed to renewed after majority reached, current: ucfgrad93

4. Gelfin - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: jav6454, 3rd: jav6454, 4th: melrose changed to renewed, current: Rodimus

5. Don't panic - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: no vote, 3rd: jav6454, 4th: renewed, current: Rodimus

6. tooz - 1st: no vote, 2nd: iBlue changed to jav6454 after majority, 3rd: willbro changed to jav6454, 4th: renewed, current: mscriv

7. King Mook Mook - 1st: no vote, 2nd: iBlue, 3rd: willbro, 4th: melrose changed to renewed, current: ???

8. Tomorrow - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: iBlue, 3rd: willbro, 4th: renewed after majority reached, current: Rodimus

9. mscriv - 1st: philbeeney after majority, 2nd: no vote, 3rd: jav6454, 4th: renewed, current: ???

10. Mexbearpig - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: iBlue, 3rd: jav6454, 4th: king Mook Mook , current: ucfgrad93

Werewolves voting history by day:
1. Jav6454 - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: iBlue, 3rd: willbro (lynched in 3rd round)

2. abijnk - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: iBlue, 3rd: ucfgrad initially, but changed to jav6454, 4th: melrose (instakilled in 4th round)

3. renewed - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: iBlue, 3rd: willbro, 4th: (lynched/instakilled in 4th round)

Werewolf kills by night:
1st: chrmjenkins, 2nd: stonyc, 3rd: no one, 4th: willbro

Vampire kills by night:
4th: ibookg4user

Current vote count:
mscriv - 1 vote (tooz)
ucfgrd93 - 3 votes (melrose, Rodimus Prime, Mexbearpig)
Rodiums Prime - 4 votes (ucfgrd93, Gelfin, Don't Panic, Tomorrow)

Left to vote:
mscriv
King Mook Mook

majority needed this round is 6 votes.
 
But he has not scanned you either and you could easily be one of the vamps.

Oh, believe me I acknowledge that. Sorta wishing he'd scanned me. Now I have to worry about monsters and villagers. :) Right now, though, I don't have a lot of information about the vampires either way, since they've only killed once. I'm just trying to deal with the situation I do know something about.

Something has been bugging me a lot, though: tooz reported a shortlist of five names he had not yet scanned, out of ten remaining villagers. Of course he left himself off the list, so he has scanned four of the living players. Since it is day five, he has had exactly four opportunities to scan. Which means that, quite improbably, every player tooz has scanned throughout the game has survived, even though we've lost half the players. Seer or not, I am not really convinced tooz is telling us everything.
 
1. Melrose - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: iBlue, 3rd: willbro, 4th: abijnk changed to renewed after majority reached, 5th & current: ucfgrad93

2. ucfgrad93 - 1st: no vote, 2nd no vote, 3rd: jav6454, 4th: abijnk changed to renewed after majority reached, 5th & current: Rodimus Prime

3. Rodimus Prime - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: jav6454, 3rd: no vote in TO, 4th: melrose changed to renewed after majority reached, current: ucfgrad93

4. Gelfin - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: jav6454, 3rd: jav6454, 4th: melrose changed to renewed, current: Rodimus

5. Don't panic - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: no vote, 3rd: jav6454, 4th: renewed, current: Rodimus

6. tooz - 1st: no vote, 2nd: iBlue changed to jav6454 after majority, 3rd: willbro changed to jav6454, 4th: renewed, current: mscriv

7. King Mook Mook - 1st: no vote, 2nd: iBlue, 3rd: willbro, 4th: melrose changed to renewed, current: ???

8. Tomorrow - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: iBlue, 3rd: willbro, 4th: renewed after majority reached, current: Rodimus

9. mscriv - 1st: philbeeney after majority, 2nd: no vote, 3rd: jav6454, 4th: renewed, current: ???

10. Mexbearpig - 1st: philbeeney, 2nd: iBlue, 3rd: jav6454, 4th: king Mook Mook , current: ucfgrad93

Current vote count:
mscriv - 1 vote (tooz)
ucfgrd93 - 3 votes (melrose, Rodimus Prime, Mexbearpig)
Rodiums Prime - 4 votes (ucfgrd93, Gelfin, Don't Panic, Tomorrow)

Left to vote:
mscriv
King Mook Mook

majority needed this round is 6 votes.

You know your break down is rather scary on tooz might be playing us as the missing WW. He made 2 changes to one the WW like he was trying to cover his tracks since both times jav was suspected but changed either 2 him when he was safe or when the majority were clearly heading that way.

I would also point out that I was the final voted needed for the majority to kill renewed. I changed to him but before the majority was reached. It was right after I saw that Melrose was clearly the WW hunter.
 
Very true there.

I have 2 suspects in mind on who the vamps or WW are.
One is Ufcgrad93 and the other is Gelfin. I have more evidences that seems to link ufcgrad93 is the missing WW and I figured people would be more likely to vote for ufcgrad93 than Gelfin. I figured I would worry about Gelfin tomorrow.

what evidence? and why would tooz exonerate Ucfgrad if he was teh ww? that would only make sense if they were the two vamps.

and i can't but notice that you and another of the "suspect 4", maxbearpig, are voting together for ucfgrad (well, melrose too): a coven decision?
 
Oh, believe me I acknowledge that. Sorta wishing he'd scanned me. Now I have to worry about monsters and villagers. :) Right now, though, I don't have a lot of information about the vampires either way, since they've only killed once. I'm just trying to deal with the situation I do know something about.

Something has been bugging me a lot, though: tooz reported a shortlist of five names he had not yet scanned, out of ten remaining villagers. Of course he left himself off the list, so he has scanned four of the living players. Since it is day five, he has had exactly four opportunities to scan. Which means that, quite improbably, every player tooz has scanned throughout the game has survived, even though we've lost half the players. Seer or not, I am not really convinced tooz is telling us everything.

yeah I am thinking that 2.

I think based on some evidence that he is playing us. He might be one of the vamps trying to protect his own.
 
what evidence? and why would tooz exonerate Ucfgrad if he was teh ww? that would only make sense if they were the two vamps.

and i can't but notice that you and another of the "suspect 4", maxbearpig, are voting together for ucfgrad (well, melrose too): a coven decision?

That or he is the missing WW trying to take this chance to make people make everyone believe that he is the seer and therefor safe until the end.
 
That or he is the missing WW trying to take this chance to make people make everyone believe that he is the seer and therefor safe until the end.

possible, but pretending to be someone else is a risky move, unless you are sure you are impersonating someone who cannot talk anymore.
even then, it would have been safer for him to 'identify' some of the dead ones, rather than all the alive one, who he might get wrong. for example, if one of you 5 (including melrose) was the vamp hunter, he would KNOW, he was lying, and almost certainly a bad guy, so he would kill tooz on the spot.
also, none of the ones he 'exonerated' could be not only the seer, but also the undertaker (i think he's long dead, but we don't know for sure).
so, overall, iit is possible that tooz is lying, but it would be a huge gamble and one that would seal his own fate if we follow his advice and find out in two killings he was wrong. in that case he would (and should) be next on the list (and Ucf right after him).
 
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