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Powerbooks, powerbooks, powerbooks (to paraphrase).dontmatter said:
There's not a lot of room to move on the iBooks without seriously impacting the Powerbook range, the Powerbooks have maxed out the G4, and the iBooks are due for an update. That means new Powerbooks and that means new processors, either G5's or maybe the new single core e600 or the dual-core MPC8641D. Of course the official line on the freescale processors is sampling second half '05 at 1.5GHz. With the PBs already at 1.67GHz Apple is unlikely to put a single-core e600 into the PB. QED, G5 or dual-core MPC8641D.
pigwin32 said:
I share your thoughts on the portable situation, although Apple has already once updated the iBook line to almost match the PowerBook line - it could happen again, since the iBooks are way overdue for an upgrade. Perhaps Jobs will release new iBooks, which will essentially be current PowerBook clones, but announce new and significantly improved PowerBooks as well, only that they may not be shipping until the Paris Expo, or something along those lines to give them some more time.
What I'm hoping is that the PowerBook line as it exists today, for all intents and purposes, becomes the new iBook line, and the new PowerBook line is something significantly better than the current offering. Come on Apple, keep the portable product line competitive!
Here's my wild speculation (and my first post here!)
From: http://www.sun.com/june1st/flash.html
"Twenty-three years ago, we at Sun recognized that something very basic was, in its simplicity, profound.
And ever since, this idea has guided our path to many achievements. We've helped enable the collaboration of everyone from automakers to health care providers. We've assisted educators and innovators in shaping the future.
On June 1st, we'll tell you what this simple idea can accomplish next. After all, the stakes have never been higher. The information Age has taken society as far as it can. It's time to move to something bigger.
Something with the potential to involve everyone.
June 1st. Participate, won't you?"
Also!!! June 6th - Steve Jobs will give the keynote address at the Apple World Wide Developers Conference in San Francisco. He usually introduces big new products here - and since he just introduced a new operating system - Tiger OS 10.4 - we know that won't be the big bang that everyone is expecting.
Apple, Sun and Sony have been collaborating for a while - what could they be up to?????
Two quotes:
"The third phase in personal computing is about the desktop machine becoming the digital hub that connects and manages all of your computing devices, from music CD players to TVs.
-Steve Jobs Jan 2002
The next wave of the Internet is going to be huge, and the companies that create products that work together can all be winners.
-Kunitake Ando (President and COO of Sony) Feb 2002
http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors/2005/01/highdefreax/index.php
Also - Ando made an appearance at MacWorld 2005 where Steve Jobs declared 2005 "The Year of High Definition Video." And way back in January of 2000 Jobs announced his intention to make Apple "one of the 10 most profitable Internet companies in the next few years."
http://www.techweb.com/article/printableArticle.jhtml?articleID=29112320&site_section=
Here's what people are expecting. http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/the_next_wave_of_the_internet_rolls_in_on_june_1/
- Grid computing to use your computer as a digital hub. Internet, Telephone, Music, Video, etc.
- Apple's iTunes store branching out to include Movies and TV shows. They just recently added music videos to the iTunes store - so this may not be that much of a stretch.
- Air Port Express currently allows people to play their entire iTunes library on speakers throughout their home by attaching the speakers to a tiny little white box. The white Air Port Express box communicates wirelessly to your Mac.
http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/
You can attach a number of different speaker systems to your mac by buying additional air ports for $129.
The bummer about this - you have to set and/or change the play list from your PC. So no flipping through your song collection from the couch.
- People expect Air Port Express to soon allow streaming video as well and you can hook up to your TV monitor. But - hey - I want a remote control don't you?
- Apple was granted a patent for a "electronic device" on Tuesday, May 10th, 2005. http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/05/10.18.shtml
People initially thought it might be some sort of tablet PC - but now many speculate that it will be that remote control device we all need to remotely control iTunes from our couch and then select the output for the streaming audio/video from the long list of stereo systems and/or TVs in our house.
All in HD of course! Look at this post from "As Seen On TV" - a supposed Apple Insider who leaks information to slashdot.org. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=148958&cid=12485267
"What exactly we offer depends on whose content you're talking about. Some content will be provided to us in 720-by-486 anamorphic, which we'll encode in H.264 at between 1 and 2 megabits. (Did you notice that QuickTime 7 has additional support for anamorphic video? I knew you would.) Other content will come in at HD, and for the time being we'll scale that down to half-HD at 2 Mbps. Doing full 1080/24p at 8 Mbps just isn't practical right now given that even the fastest cable modems in the US top out at 4 Mbps; in order to get real-time streaming of full-HD content, you'd need one of those new-fangled fiber optic Internet services that the telcos are starting to roll out. That's too forward-thinking for phase one. But we can do 2 Mbps now to the same customers we're shipping iTunes songs to."
Other Sources: Neo from MacSimumNews.com
http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/the_next_wave_of_the_internet_rolls_in_on_june_1/
Cringely from PBS
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050512.html
From: http://www.sun.com/june1st/flash.html
"Twenty-three years ago, we at Sun recognized that something very basic was, in its simplicity, profound.
And ever since, this idea has guided our path to many achievements. We've helped enable the collaboration of everyone from automakers to health care providers. We've assisted educators and innovators in shaping the future.
On June 1st, we'll tell you what this simple idea can accomplish next. After all, the stakes have never been higher. The information Age has taken society as far as it can. It's time to move to something bigger.
Something with the potential to involve everyone.
June 1st. Participate, won't you?"
Also!!! June 6th - Steve Jobs will give the keynote address at the Apple World Wide Developers Conference in San Francisco. He usually introduces big new products here - and since he just introduced a new operating system - Tiger OS 10.4 - we know that won't be the big bang that everyone is expecting.
Apple, Sun and Sony have been collaborating for a while - what could they be up to?????
Two quotes:
"The third phase in personal computing is about the desktop machine becoming the digital hub that connects and manages all of your computing devices, from music CD players to TVs.
-Steve Jobs Jan 2002
The next wave of the Internet is going to be huge, and the companies that create products that work together can all be winners.
-Kunitake Ando (President and COO of Sony) Feb 2002
http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors/2005/01/highdefreax/index.php
Also - Ando made an appearance at MacWorld 2005 where Steve Jobs declared 2005 "The Year of High Definition Video." And way back in January of 2000 Jobs announced his intention to make Apple "one of the 10 most profitable Internet companies in the next few years."
http://www.techweb.com/article/printableArticle.jhtml?articleID=29112320&site_section=
Here's what people are expecting. http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/the_next_wave_of_the_internet_rolls_in_on_june_1/
- Grid computing to use your computer as a digital hub. Internet, Telephone, Music, Video, etc.
- Apple's iTunes store branching out to include Movies and TV shows. They just recently added music videos to the iTunes store - so this may not be that much of a stretch.
- Air Port Express currently allows people to play their entire iTunes library on speakers throughout their home by attaching the speakers to a tiny little white box. The white Air Port Express box communicates wirelessly to your Mac.
http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/
You can attach a number of different speaker systems to your mac by buying additional air ports for $129.
The bummer about this - you have to set and/or change the play list from your PC. So no flipping through your song collection from the couch.
- People expect Air Port Express to soon allow streaming video as well and you can hook up to your TV monitor. But - hey - I want a remote control don't you?
- Apple was granted a patent for a "electronic device" on Tuesday, May 10th, 2005. http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/05/10.18.shtml
People initially thought it might be some sort of tablet PC - but now many speculate that it will be that remote control device we all need to remotely control iTunes from our couch and then select the output for the streaming audio/video from the long list of stereo systems and/or TVs in our house.
All in HD of course! Look at this post from "As Seen On TV" - a supposed Apple Insider who leaks information to slashdot.org. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=148958&cid=12485267
"What exactly we offer depends on whose content you're talking about. Some content will be provided to us in 720-by-486 anamorphic, which we'll encode in H.264 at between 1 and 2 megabits. (Did you notice that QuickTime 7 has additional support for anamorphic video? I knew you would.) Other content will come in at HD, and for the time being we'll scale that down to half-HD at 2 Mbps. Doing full 1080/24p at 8 Mbps just isn't practical right now given that even the fastest cable modems in the US top out at 4 Mbps; in order to get real-time streaming of full-HD content, you'd need one of those new-fangled fiber optic Internet services that the telcos are starting to roll out. That's too forward-thinking for phase one. But we can do 2 Mbps now to the same customers we're shipping iTunes songs to."
Other Sources: Neo from MacSimumNews.com
http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/the_next_wave_of_the_internet_rolls_in_on_june_1/
Cringely from PBS
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050512.html
I think it's a good thing that it's very quiet out there.
Steve will kick ass at WWDC. He likes the buzz that the conference generates, so be prepared.
I bet Powerbook G5, some sort of DVR and a larger Cinema display.
Steve will kick ass at WWDC. He likes the buzz that the conference generates, so be prepared.
I bet Powerbook G5, some sort of DVR and a larger Cinema display.
SULLY23 said:
I think this is a real possibility. They fell on their face getting a 3GHz G5 out last year, so this year they'd want to do one better, and since we already know IBM is producing 3.2GHz G5s for all 3 console game systems (which are going to sell tens of millions of units) it seems logical that Apple would now also have access to those.
The more interesting thing is power and heat -- figure an XBox 360 will have 3 3.2GHz G5 processors -- in that little box? Where's the liquid cooling that's needed on the dual 2.7GHz Macs? For that matter, where's the big heat sinks and fans? And the Playstation 3 will also have a 3.2GHz G5 (plus the Cells). And the Nintendo Revolution is at least highly rumored to have a 3.2GHz G5 (maybe 2?). If IBM's got the heat down on these puppies to the point where a 3.2GHz runs cooler than a 2.7GHz, I think there's even a possibility that within the next year we'll see the G5 PowerBook.
iTunes Video Store?!
My halucination, SJ will:
1. Announce new QT for windows - talk about how great, amazing, revolutionary the new H.264 codec (he does like to talk about all things MPEG4 a lot)
2. Announce Airport Express AV with 802.11n support
b/c we now have H.264 and 802.11n, we can stream HD video through the air!!!!!!!!!!!
...one more thing:
We already announced that we want to include podcast support in the new iTunes. I hope you all like that idea. But since #1 and #2 will be in place soon we thought you all might like to stream movies you bought in the _iTunes Video Store_ to your TV or projector', too. In HD of course.
We have partnered with Sony, .......... and we are proud to be the first not just in successful online music sales, but soon in video, too.
Just a thought. 'Would tie together what is known and what is rumored to be around the corner - unlike G5 PBs, which are so not around the corner
time to wake up and do something productive
My halucination, SJ will:
1. Announce new QT for windows - talk about how great, amazing, revolutionary the new H.264 codec (he does like to talk about all things MPEG4 a lot)
2. Announce Airport Express AV with 802.11n support
b/c we now have H.264 and 802.11n, we can stream HD video through the air!!!!!!!!!!!
...one more thing:
We already announced that we want to include podcast support in the new iTunes. I hope you all like that idea. But since #1 and #2 will be in place soon we thought you all might like to stream movies you bought in the _iTunes Video Store_ to your TV or projector', too. In HD of course.
We have partnered with Sony, .......... and we are proud to be the first not just in successful online music sales, but soon in video, too.
Just a thought. 'Would tie together what is known and what is rumored to be around the corner - unlike G5 PBs, which are so not around the corner
time to wake up and do something productive
freiheit said:
Please read through this thread explaining why having the XBox chips in a Mac would suck, why running OS X on a XBox would suck, etc., how the chips are different, and why this just simply isn't as easy as you make it out to sound. There are a lot of good points and discussions made throughout the thread.
Also, the XBox does NOT use G5s. First of all, "G5" is Apple's marketing name for the 970 and is not a type of processor itself, and secondly, it's not even the 970 processor which MS is using in the XBox.
And to reinforce things, you would NOT want these console chips in a Mac. IBM's "console chip" if I may call it that, is a special PowerPC - it is far lacking in performance per MHz. It is the only IBM chip that runs at over 3 GHz, and there are 3 of them in the XBox 360 because they are cheap little processors with a higher clock speed.
Apple Remote Display
6" widescreen display 480x272. OLED. 0.5" thick. Stylus. WiFi. One USB port for keyboard, mouse or printer. No hard disk. The only software it runs is Apple Remote Access, Safari, and Inkwell. Long battery life. $399. Larger screen version available.
You use this to connect via Apple Remote Access to your computer, giving you a second, portable, remote screen. Connects directly to your WiFi home network, or through any WiFi net that is connected to the Internet. You can now control your computer, or any computer with an ARA client that's on the Net, completely. Run all the software on your home computer, check EMail, send files, run iTunes, all from your patio, or from most any hotel lobby or Starbucks world wide.
The Safari and Inkwell lets you connect to any public WiFi system like you were a laptop running Safari.
There you go. Bring it anywhere, connect anywhere there is WiFi and the Net, browse or control your home system.
6" widescreen display 480x272. OLED. 0.5" thick. Stylus. WiFi. One USB port for keyboard, mouse or printer. No hard disk. The only software it runs is Apple Remote Access, Safari, and Inkwell. Long battery life. $399. Larger screen version available.
You use this to connect via Apple Remote Access to your computer, giving you a second, portable, remote screen. Connects directly to your WiFi home network, or through any WiFi net that is connected to the Internet. You can now control your computer, or any computer with an ARA client that's on the Net, completely. Run all the software on your home computer, check EMail, send files, run iTunes, all from your patio, or from most any hotel lobby or Starbucks world wide.
The Safari and Inkwell lets you connect to any public WiFi system like you were a laptop running Safari.
There you go. Bring it anywhere, connect anywhere there is WiFi and the Net, browse or control your home system.
all i want it apple to keep the 12 inch modles of the iBook and Power book. i want a 12 inch iBook once they get an update, its nice to have a computer that will literaly fit into the pocket of a few pairs of jeans i have.
I've got money in the bank for a new PB but I'm not plunking it down until there's a decent processor in the PB and a new display. Otherwise I think the current Powerbooks are fairly decent, 512MB RAM, 5400RPM hard drive, Gigabit ethernet, built-in airport extreme and bluetooth, what's not to like?~Shard~ said:
A craving for a "super" mac
Okay - this link made me want Apple to create an over-the-top line. This Falcon has TWO nVidia 512 MB (each) cards linked in via SLI - for a total of 1024 MB of VRAM. (Can't even get the single 512 on a PM yet), and with liquid cooling, clocks the p4 to 4.25 GHz. Also includes a 600 GB RAID, and goes for over $8,000.00, in a metal case with purple auto-grade paint finish.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1821285,00.asp.
What would our Mac version be (meaning what would a beyond all expectations Mac machine look like - not what would be the Mac to PC equivalent): Twin dual-core 3.2s, with a new SLI for Mac spec allowing the same graphics set up; two 120 GB, 320 MB per sec SCSI drives spinning at 12,000 RPM, and finally get to DDR2.
Any hope such a new beefy line will be announced at WWDC - not so much.
Okay - this link made me want Apple to create an over-the-top line. This Falcon has TWO nVidia 512 MB (each) cards linked in via SLI - for a total of 1024 MB of VRAM. (Can't even get the single 512 on a PM yet), and with liquid cooling, clocks the p4 to 4.25 GHz. Also includes a 600 GB RAID, and goes for over $8,000.00, in a metal case with purple auto-grade paint finish.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1821285,00.asp.
What would our Mac version be (meaning what would a beyond all expectations Mac machine look like - not what would be the Mac to PC equivalent): Twin dual-core 3.2s, with a new SLI for Mac spec allowing the same graphics set up; two 120 GB, 320 MB per sec SCSI drives spinning at 12,000 RPM, and finally get to DDR2.
Any hope such a new beefy line will be announced at WWDC - not so much.
A guess at what is to be announced
So with all of the talk of Intel collaboration and the most recent offerings from Palm One, I think we have a clearer view of what might be announced. The new Lifedrive is interesting from Palm One but doesn't do it as eloquently as Apple could. The big difference between the Lifedrive and say the iPod is the processor..
From http://palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7840
The LifeDrive Runs Palm OS Garnet (v5.4.8) on a 416 MHz Intel PXA270 XScale processor. It has built in 4 Gigabyte hard drive (3.85GB user available) and 64MB of internal memory (55MB user available). It has both WiFi and Bluetooth wireless technology and hotsyncing now supports USB 2.0 speeds.
Note the ref to the Intel processor .. Now combine these capabilities with the rumored Airport Express Remote and we might have a winner. It works with the current rumors of Intel integration and could provide a multi-media capable iPod category of device with remote control capabilities. Just some thoughts.
So with all of the talk of Intel collaboration and the most recent offerings from Palm One, I think we have a clearer view of what might be announced. The new Lifedrive is interesting from Palm One but doesn't do it as eloquently as Apple could. The big difference between the Lifedrive and say the iPod is the processor..
From http://palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7840
The LifeDrive Runs Palm OS Garnet (v5.4.8) on a 416 MHz Intel PXA270 XScale processor. It has built in 4 Gigabyte hard drive (3.85GB user available) and 64MB of internal memory (55MB user available). It has both WiFi and Bluetooth wireless technology and hotsyncing now supports USB 2.0 speeds.
Note the ref to the Intel processor .. Now combine these capabilities with the rumored Airport Express Remote and we might have a winner. It works with the current rumors of Intel integration and could provide a multi-media capable iPod category of device with remote control capabilities. Just some thoughts.
OK WWDC Wishlist:
Powerbook G5
20" screen HD
second hard drive support
16x dual layer superdrive
Apple DVR
Cinema Display 40"+
Airpot Xpress AV with remote control.
what about Powermac Dual cores G5!
Powerbook G5
20" screen HD
second hard drive support
16x dual layer superdrive
Apple DVR
Cinema Display 40"+
Airpot Xpress AV with remote control.
what about Powermac Dual cores G5!
Yes, there are a lot of wishes but they are viable.~Shard~ said:Well, I guess there's a reason they call it a wishlist...
let's see in a week.
gugy said:
My personal wish list has new iBooks on it, but I don't know if they would get shown off at an event like WWDC. Perhaps Jobs will make some PowerBook announcement then, and then the next day (a Tuesday, I believe, how convenient...
), Apple could release the new iBooks as well.Only a week to go!
autrefois said:
Well, it's nicer than if they just embargoed a story and threatened to yank your advertising, which is standard operating procedure for most larger companies and the press.
A true journalist's job is to find out the facts and a company's PR dept is to tell them just enough to keep them sweet. Unfortunately publishers and advertising gets in the way of that little tango. If you're a small guy, pissing off your major advertiser may be principled but commercially stupid.
poundsmack said:
I used to use an OKI i860 Intel RISC based UNIX box back in about 1992. It was a great computer at the time too - massive 21" Sony monitor, loads of RAM, 66Mhz and it'd render POVRay scenes in a matter of hours, compared to the couple of days I was used to on my 68040 Amiga.
Intel have been doing RISC since before the PowerPC. Back then I was also using Motorola 88000 based workstations. The merger of the IBM POWER and 88000 was largely what became the PowerPC - plus some little bits from Apple.
Edit Got my dates wrong - it was 1989! and it never quite made 66Mhz. Oddly, it also made it into the NeXTDimension colour board addon for the NeXT Cube as a colour Display Postscript accelerator. It also got used in quite a few laser printers IIRC.
The weirdest thing I've seen year to date is Bonjour for windows. I still don't understand it. The idea of a wireless controller or tablet for itunes... connecting and controlling printers. I don't know what's going to happen... but I'm optimistic that this software was released for some reason.
Here's what is going to be announced:
- Tiger best selling OS in history of apple
- itunes success talk
- itunes 5.0 w/ support for streaming video/ slideshows
- new itunes music store features
- airport express 2 w/ delayed video streaming
- itunes phone revealed officially
- oh and one more thing
- new ibooks sporting much thinner look along with minor speed bumps, superdrive available for 12" now, 64 MB video card memory, bluetooth standard, higher resolution 14".
(can't wait til the day they have a video store dashboard widget, where you can rent a movie or buy it)
- Tiger best selling OS in history of apple
- itunes success talk
- itunes 5.0 w/ support for streaming video/ slideshows
- new itunes music store features
- airport express 2 w/ delayed video streaming
- itunes phone revealed officially
- oh and one more thing
- new ibooks sporting much thinner look along with minor speed bumps, superdrive available for 12" now, 64 MB video card memory, bluetooth standard, higher resolution 14".
(can't wait til the day they have a video store dashboard widget, where you can rent a movie or buy it)
Without wishing to get into an infinite loop here, I was responding to an earlier post vis:AidenShaw said:
My point being that the PB is a nice product except that the processor is throttled by the FSB and the display isn't keeping pace with the latest generation of displays. I anticipate Apple is waiting to release a new 15" PB enclosure that will be able to accommodate new displays but doesn't want to modify the existing one. I would surmise the processor is absolutely the reason why we haven't seen new displays to date. There has been little from the rumour mills regarding new PB's lately, not surprising given the current law suits; I can only imagine the paranoia within Apple. Perhaps the signs are right for a release next Tuesday?~Shard~ said: