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I never updated my Macbook with Snow Leopard. I can't get the Mac App Store without it. If I'm only able to download Lion through the Mac App Store, am I going to have to buy two upgrades now?
 
Not so much the lockscreen itself (that's one area I'd like to see Android improve on) but the swipe down notification bar is a blatant copy from Android. They didn't even try to hide the fact they ripped it.

That's what i meant. :p
 
So how long will it be until we will see an ios 5 download link available on the net? :D
 
Itunes Match - $24.99/year to store music you've already have paid for.
Spotify - $120-$180/year to be able to stream 13 million songs and to store 3,300 of them locally for offline listening.

One is the future, the other is clinging to the past.

is Spotify available in the US?
we know which one is the past just from that
 
It's going to be based on your iTunes login from what I gather. Unless they've included some kind of multiuser capabilities I'd imagine it's going to stick with the one device, one user concept.

We'll have to see.

We share one login (mine), but have different apps.

So no word on what happens with the mobile me family pack?
 
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06/07/11, the day Steve Jobs arrogance destroyed Apple.

Remember the date people.

What a colossal fail.

No, today Jobs assured Apple will remain relevant in the new Google and Amazon dominated cloud landscape.

And just wait until iCloud starts letting users discover other users and their data. Facebook's stranglehold on social networking will begin to slip away.
 
The messaging through iOS is very interesting actually. Moreso for me because about a week ago on the last page of apps for me for some reason a Messages app and an iOS diagnostic app showed up. The diagnostic app wanted me to enter a query ID I didn't and the messages app didn't work. Here's an image.
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It disappeared today for some reason but it still shows up on the multitasking dock. Weird stuff.
 
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06/07/11, the day Steve Jobs arrogance destroyed Apple.

Remember the date people.

What a colossal fail.

Huh? Why?

I felt the keynote may have been a little underwhelming but I don't see how it was spectacularly bad. What's so arrogant? What's so colossal?
 
I never updated my Macbook with Snow Leopard. I can't get the Mac App Store without it. If I'm only able to download Lion through the Mac App Store, am I going to have to buy two upgrades now?

Looks that way! I am still curious about the whole family pack thing.
 
I wonder about that. If my wife and I both are sharing an app that is storing data in the cloud, whose changes takes precedence?

if you guys are sharing the same a cloud account and storage then i'd imagine it takes the last save. unless there is versioning setup but i didn't hear any mention of that
 
2 phones, same Apple ID - cloud mixup?

My wife and I both have iPhones, use the same iTunes Apple ID so we don't have to pay twice for apps. What happens when the data from each of our phones is automatically synced to the cloud? Is it going to mash all of our data together, like we will have the same photo roll, and all of her apps will show up on my phone and vice versa?? I prefer controlling this through home sharing.
 
Itunes Match - $24.99/year to store music you've already have paid for.
Spotify - $120-$180/year to be able to stream 13 million songs and to store 3,300 of them locally for offline listening.

One is the future, the other is clinging to the past.

and you missed one.
Google Music - $0/year to 20k worth of song (same amount as Apple) stream music you all paid for
Amazon Cloud - $0/year to stream 5 gigs of stuff you already paid for and unlimited of what you bought off amazon.

free vs 25 a year. Hmm hard choice there.
 
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06/07/11, the day Steve Jobs arrogance destroyed Apple.

Remember the date people.

What a colossal fail.

Your username fits you well :rolleyes:
 
Synced where? I do not have any benefit to this.

It means if I rip a CD from an unsigned artist (which I do a lot) and put it into my iMac's iTunes library, I can expect it to be pushed out to my iPad and iPhone over the air. That's why I'll pay $24.99 for the privilege. If you don't see the benefit, then don't sign up.
 
We share one login (mine), but have different apps.

So no word on what happens with the mobile me family pack?

since you're sharing then there will have to be versioning or locks put on open files otherwise you will risk overwriting each other.

My wife and I both have iPhones, use the same iTunes Apple ID so we don't have to pay twice for apps. What happens when the data from each of our phones is automatically synced to the cloud? Is it going to mash all of our data together, like we will have the same photo roll, and all of her apps will show up on my phone and vice versa?? I prefer controlling this through home sharing.

i believe so, so the account is the only unique identifier and in this case it is the same, apple would have to setup some sort of family account thing where you could specify sync of to specific devices. but i didn't hear anything about that
 
Checksums can be changed, that isn't an issue for the dedicated pirates.

Youtube video rips, how do you check them?

You can't defend against this easily!

Dedicated.
Most iTunes Match users trying to match their pirated songs will not have a clue.

Also checksums can be changed, but unless you want to seriously alter the whole file, then that can be easily addressed.

It's not like videos on YouTube get yanked all the time for copyright infringement...
 
My wife and I both have iPhones, use the same iTunes Apple ID so we don't have to pay twice for apps. What happens when the data from each of our phones is automatically synced to the cloud? Is it going to mash all of our data together, like we will have the same photo roll, and all of her apps will show up on my phone and vice versa?? I prefer controlling this through home sharing.

That is what it sounds like to me. :/
 
You can get it today if you want, it's an open Beta for the US only.

Available in beta now in the U.S. only and requires iOS 4.3.1 on iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 (GSM model), iPod touch (3rd and 4th generation), iPad, or iPad 2, or a Mac or PC with iTunes 10.3. Previous purchases may be unavailable if they are no longer in the iTunes Store. Download iTunes 10.3 free.

I can't believe they screwed Verizon developers AGAIN. This is so wrong on so many levels. This better clear up this fragmentation by iOS 5! :mad:
 
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One thing I have found from today which is a small light of hope is Lion Server is only £35. Will seriously look into this.
 
Regarding MobileMe to iCloud

From MobileMe's account page;

"Information about the MobileMe transition
Last Modified: June 06, 2011
Article: HT4597

Summary

What's happening to MobileMe?

Effective June 6, 2011, if you had an active MobileMe account, your service has been automatically extended through June 30, 2012, at no additional charge. After this, the MobileMe service will no longer be available.

Products Affected
MobileMe

What will happen to the content I have on MobileMe?

Apple has announced a new service called iCloud which will be available this fall and free for iOS 5 and OS X Lion users. When you sign up for iCloud, you'll be able to keep your me.com or mac.com email address and move your MobileMe mail, contacts, calendars, and bookmarks to the new service.

When iCloud becomes available this fall, more details and instructions will be provided on how to make the move.

Can I create a new MobileMe account?

You can no longer create a new 60-day trial account or start a new subscription using a code contained in a MobileMe box. However, if you have a Family Pack subscription, you can still create new family member accounts.

Can I upgrade to a Family Pack or purchase additional storage?

Effective June 6, 2011, you can no longer upgrade your Individual account to a Family Pack or purchase additional storage for your MobileMe account.

I purchased a MobileMe box and have not used the activation code inside. Can I get refund for it?

Yes. If you have an unused activation code from a MobileMe box, you can submit a refund request."
 
Not so much the lockscreen itself (that's one area I'd like to see Android improve on) but the swipe down notification bar is a blatant copy from Android. They didn't even try to hide the fact they ripped it.

Meh, I don't really have a problem with that. It IS an efficient system and I'm flattered Apple copied Android. However, I hope Apple shuts the **** up about the copying and innovating.
 
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