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how about the dumbest rumor of them all: that it would use recycled apple watch bands to hold it on your head.

What brainiac thought of that?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple starts using recycled synthetics, as they already do with other materials. Apple aims to eventually use only recycled or renewable materials exclusively.
 
Maybe original documents were for $3000 but with the past few years inflation they adjusted to $3500?
Even just one year of delay, and the fact they don’t know for sure when exactly they’ll be able to ship, makes me think this is likely. Recent adjustments to manufacturing cost (e.g. yield rates for the microOLED panels) could also be a factor.
 
I think the Vision Pro name is terrible, Reality Pro would have been better.
 
I think the Vision Pro name is terrible, Reality Pro would have been better.
I think it's good. "Reality" is heavily used already and will become obsolete in the future as a marketing instrument. "Vision" is built around the idea that what you are seeing/sensing is the "device" and can be adopted to future products that go away from the form of a ar/vr-headset. In this concept that current headset is a throwaway-product for the sake of progress.
 
Somehow even more of a disappointment than I expected. Not in regards to the whole AR/VR thing, Apple are simply rushing that to market to get ahead of competitors, which is very un-Apple.

The disappointment is about how poor the software updates announced at a "developers" conference were. I guess the rumors were true and Apple really did pull most of the engineers from their respective OS teams in order to work on the headset.

Headset aside, they're very much in danger of falling far behind in many areas. Announcing more iMessage feature that only teens living in a backwards country actually use is pathetic. Same with the airdrop gunk.

Only notable feature I can recall is the dedicated gaming mode on MacOS, but as it got so little screen time I'm going to assume it's just another half baked attempt by apple. I really hope I'm wrong though, as if Apple bothered to take gaming seriously with their M chips they could potentially take a chunk of the market.

Just buddy up with Mr Newell and implement Proton please?

Also £7k for the Mac Pro is hilarious, if only because it's painfully obvious that they priced it this way so that they can kill it in favour of the Mac studio due to "lackluster" sales. Apple manufactured obsolescence once again, but hopefully it pleases the 5 people who actually wanted a new Mac Pro.
 
Another miss: nobody expected Mac Pro to be revealed yesterday
I suspect Apple haven't sold any Intel Mac Pro's in the last 2 years, so they had to move away from Intel, however they've not done anything with it, apart from changing the chip, for the same one as u get in a studio for $4k less, so I doubt they'll be selling any with this so called upgrade
 
Somehow even more of a disappointment than I expected. Not in regards to the whole AR/VR thing, Apple are simply rushing that to market to get ahead of competitors, which is very un-Apple.

The disappointment is about how poor the software updates announced at a "developers" conference were. I guess the rumors were true and Apple really did pull most of the engineers from their respective OS teams in order to work on the headset.

Headset aside, they're very much in danger of falling far behind in many areas. Announcing more iMessage feature that only teens living in a backwards country actually use is pathetic. Same with the airdrop gunk.

Only notable feature I can recall is the dedicated gaming mode on MacOS, but as it got so little screen time I'm going to assume it's just another half baked attempt by apple. I really hope I'm wrong though, as if Apple bothered to take gaming seriously with their M chips they could potentially take a chunk of the market.

Just buddy up with Mr Newell and implement Proton please?

Also £7k for the Mac Pro is hilarious, if only because it's painfully obvious that they priced it this way so that they can kill it in favour of the Mac studio due to "lackluster" sales. Apple manufactured obsolescence once again, but hopefully it pleases the 5 people who actually wanted a new Mac Pro.
Clearly you don't use iMessage or Air drop, therefore unlikely u use IOS and probably didn't watch most of the presentation
 
I mean he is clearly correct. Apple has that name on all the videos used for the conference. It is not just an internal name, because those videos were not meant to be just for internal use. It is clear that for a long time apple intended to use that awkward name. Thankfully they saw the light, probably also because many people said out loud that it was an ugly name.
Internal names are code names, which rarely make it to commercial name of product. It’s not just Apple, most companies have brand names and internal project/product code names.
 
Internal names are code names, which rarely make it to commercial name of product. It’s not just Apple, most companies have brand names and internal project/product code names.
I know what an internal name is. And it is not used on material that is meant for external distribution, like videos to be used during a worldwide developer conference. I am sure that visionOS had a code name, but xrOS ain’t it.
 
Yeah that was the things I was looking forward to the most too. I find control center to be a little clunky and not look as nice as it could. And wallet could use some attention too.
Both are fine as they are IMO, why fix something that doesn't need fixing, just to cater to a couple of people
 
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I know what an internal name is. And it is not used on material that is meant for external distribution, like videos to be used during a worldwide developer conference. I am sure that visionOS had a code name, but xrOS ain’t it.
Finding names in obscure code and documentation isn’t new. So is registering bunch of copyrights of terms related to product. There is absolutely nothing that suggests apple wanted to use this as brand name. Apple rather use some internal name in visible code, or other documentation than leak actual name.
 
Finding names in obscure code and documentation isn’t new. So is registering bunch of copyrights of terms related to product. There is absolutely nothing that suggests apple wanted to use this as brand name. Apple rather use some internal name in visible code, or other documentation than leak actual name.
A worldwide presentation is not obscure code. The WWDC presentations always used the official marketing names, not internal code names.
 
And $1000 for a “big iPhone” wouldn’t have?

as long as there were smaller cheaper ones? no. just like a Mac Pro that starts at $6000 isn't an issue when a Mac mini starting at $599 exists. when iPhone launched I believe you could get it as low as $199 on carrier subsidized plans.

look I get everything is relative, apple is expensive (don't I know it, I am 100% in the ecosystem for decades now), and there WILL be early adopters of anything... but from internal rumors and Tim's own interview on Good Morning America on Tuesday ... Apple is aware this is very expensive, likely doesn't have a big market for the moment because of it, etc.

This is the START. $6000 would have been not even getting out of gear...
 
Because Apple had been feeding that person's source fake information to track down a leak. There was a thread about it a few weeks ago.
I do wonder how much money tech industry leakers are paid for their information. Anyone ever done investigative reporting on that?

To me it's really interesting because one would think that many tech workers make way more than enough, but also I hear that folks who go after money never feel there is ever enough money.
 
I still believe that majority of the @Analyst941 leaks were true.

there is a new control center, wallet app, etc under development, but either because of the leak or not, was postponed.

that leak was within dev team, so there’s a lot of new stuff, but they have no idea of the release timeli, only educated guesses.
 
I think what's worse is that apple has better design concepts for control center and wallet which they aren't releasing.
I also can’t believe that there were no Wallet updates…

The September event is the true reveal of the software updates. WWDC only shows off some flagship features — even less so in this event where every OS preview was short to leave an hour for Vision Pro.

Most of the features will be found in the developer previews, not announced by Apple. Some will pop up in the dev preview after the September event.
 
You forgot one of the biggest miss. The design (which we got feed up seeing it and thanks god it didn't turn out to be the case)
I'm just surprised how close it looks to that render that was used all the time.

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