WWDC Keynote

Mr. Anderson

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Its not over yet, so wait and see what happens.

I'm all for the death of OS9, but the coffin seems a little overly dramatic. Anyone have a pic of this, please post it, I'm very curious.
 

cryptochrome

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Hah! I was right! I said before they needed a replacement for the finder that more closely suited the needs and intentional limitations of education, and now they're making a simplified finder with improved network management - the core of such a design - with an eye towards education. Outstanding - now they need some network (classroom) oriented education apps to go with it, and some light durable inexpensive school-oriented hardware to go with it. Cool.
 

jelloshotsrule

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Originally posted by cryptochrome
Hah! I was right! I said before they needed a replacement for the finder that more closely suited the needs and intentional limitations of education, and now they're making a simplified finder with improved network management - the core of such a design - with an eye towards education. Outstanding - now they need some network (classroom) oriented education apps to go with it, and some light durable inexpensive school-oriented hardware to go with it. Cool.
sorry to be dumb, but what site are you finding this specfic info? the maccentral stuff doesn't seem to be that specific.....?
 

eric_n_dfw

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Thumbnails

From maccentral:
Jobs on new Jaguar features: Finder improvements -- integrated search, multithreading support, automatic thumbnail creation.
Of course! Just after I registered a shareware app to do make thumbnails for me! (I forget which one)
Oh well, maybe my $$ will help that developer make the next big shareware app.

-Eric
 

jelloshotsrule

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sherlock 3. let's hope it's much better than the current os x version....

the more they add about it (yellow pages), the more it sounds like watson...
 

cryptochrome

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Yellow pages with local search. Now there's something they should have had a long time ago. I wonder if that means they'll bring back an actual locations preference option, to change network settings, time zones, and now address information (zip code). Eh, probably not.
 

Mr. Anderson

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Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
sherlock 3. let's hope it's much better than the current os x version....

the more they add about it (yellow pages), the more it sounds like watson...
I'm curious about this one, could it end up being a Mac Browser - espicially supporting direct HTML?

Damn, now we have to wait for the release of the OSX.2, which won't be anytime soon.

I do like the QT6 integration, but again, does that mean we have to wait until OSX.2 comes out or do we get that sooner?

Uuugghhh, too many questions and not enough answers......:(
 

jelloshotsrule

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Originally posted by dukestreet
Damn, now we have to wait for the release of the OSX.2, which won't be anytime soon.

I do like the QT6 integration, but again, does that mean we have to wait until OSX.2 comes out or do we get that sooner?

Uuugghhh, too many questions and not enough answers......:(
that's my fear as well. i'd ALMOST rather not have the little tease we are getting. everything sounds great. but we won't see it for..... months.
 

jelloshotsrule

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Originally posted by afonso
i say september...
you really think even after mwny? wow... that'll be rough.

so this latest bit about the graphics cards doing the quartz stuff with opengl... and can't do that on old cards... does that mean x.2 won't work on comps with the older cards? or just that that feature won't be optimized?
 

Falleron

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Quartz Extreme: Takes the compositing engine in Quartz, and accelerates it in graphics cards. Combines 2D, 3D and video in one hardware pipeline via OpenGL. "Everything on the screen is being drawn in hardware by OpenGL." Requires AGP 2x and 32MB of video RAM.

Must be an update to the ibook soon otherwise they wont be able to benefit!!
 

eric_n_dfw

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Quartz Extreme

from maccentral
Quartz Extreme: Takes the compositing engine in Quartz, and accelerates it in graphics cards. Combines 2D, 3D and video in one hardware pipeline via OpenGL. "Everything on the screen is being drawn in hardware by OpenGL." Requires AGP 2x and 32MB of video RAM.
It is not possible on older graphics cards like RAGE 128 cards, said Jobs -- that means it'll work on newer iMacs and eMacs, but not on older machines, he emphasized. AGP 2x and 32MB video RAM are required for this new technology.
YES!!!!
I can't believe they hadn't done this already! This would cause me to, finally, have to ditch my old B&W G3 but it's about time for that anyway.
 

afonso

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yeah, i see x.2 only coming out early september...

about the graphics accelaration, it's a feature, so x.2 will still work on older systems, though more slowly :D
 

Backtothemac

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" Quartz Extreme: Takes the compositing engine in Quartz, and accelerates it in graphics cards. Combines 2D, 3D and video in one hardware pipeline via OpenGL. "Everything on the screen is being drawn in hardware by OpenGL." Requires AGP 2x and 32MB of video RAM. "

WTF! Man now that is the first thing they have done to piss me off. I have shelled out for two systems this year and neither will perform these! Oh, well, I guess that will be a good reason to upgrade to a new iMac :)
 

Mr. Anderson

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But it might also mean you won't be able to use OSX.2 on older machines, or ones without an upgrade to the video card, even if that's possible. Its a great way to go and will speed up the overall system performance, but its also not going to be available to everyone.

What will they do for the older machines now? Will you only be able to install parts of the OSX.2 depending on your hardware config?:(
 

afonso

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i think it will work as it does now, with no true graphics acc via a direct pipeline, so it should be ok, without u even noticing it...

INKWELL!!! ouch, that is exciting ;)
 

eric_n_dfw

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Originally posted by dukestreet
What will they do for the older machines now? Will you only be able to install parts of the OSX.2 depending on your hardware config?:(
I would guess those features would just be like today - software rendered by the CPI.