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Thanks for the smile...

I have bought hardware, and then had new hardware come out, but I am so p'oed because this is software. To run the software the way it should be run, then we have to upgrade hardware. UGH!~!!!@!)(*HFAO @#$@*(@#**$)@#@(!@

I will get over it.
 
All but great new things :D
Pitty though that I won't be able to run it on my imacDV+ (not enough RAM on graph card) :(

Must find some cash quickly, need new mac, ...:confused:
 
iMac G4's video card

Is the new iMac's gForce 2MX card with 32MB ram considered to be an "AGP 2x" card? It's on the motherboard, right? Is there an AGP 2x connection, just without the slot?
 
OS X 10.1 on iBook

Originally posted by Backtothemac


Nope, welcome to my boat, the S.S. Take it up the rear.
;)
Do you run 10.1 on your iBook today? Just curious, have you compared it's speed to the iMac G4 or TiBook?
 
stay away from it unless you really need/want to do it.... it can suck up so much damn time.

You're too modest. How about this: "Internet chatting will whittle away precious hours of your life on conversations so inane and so ungrounded in reality it makes Pauly Shore seem erudite and entertaining. "
 
Re: OS X 10.1 on iBook

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw

Do you run 10.1 on your iBook today? Just curious, have you compared it's speed to the iMac G4 or TiBook?

I am running X.1.4 with 384 MB of ram on my iBooks, and X.1.4 with 1GB of ram on my iMac. Three machines since December of 2001 and none will use the extreme quartz. That is one of the biggest problems with X is the speed of quartz. Oh well.

Actually, I have seen it run next to the new iMacs, and they are much "snappier" (sorry, couldn't resist). It is just aggrivating to spend this kind of money in one year and forever be stuck with a mediocre speed on the interface. Unreal.

Absolutly friggin unreal.

Can anyone say class action (tounge firmly planted in cheek)
 
I'm going to be very curious how this all effects the stock. It'll probably go up if everybody starts complaining saying they need new machines, which means Apple will inevitably sell more. Figures.

But is it me, or was this a lame WWDC KeyNote?
 
iChat....

I just hope that iChat is more stable and usefull than AIM's OS X mesenger right now. I usually just use it for sending files and getting away mesages to see where people are. Both of these functions are not supported on any other 3rd party AIM client and the file sending is very unstable and sometimes wont even connect. I also think Apple should look into making this same app be able to sign on to all the different messenging clients like ICQ, yahoo, and msn like the program Proteus. That would be very cool! Oh yeah, it should deffinately have the one-window option like adium.

Regards,
Matt
 
OS X speed on iBook

Backtothemac,
I agree, that's gotta be agrivating. Kinda like when I spent several hundred on a Sega Dreamcast, the broadband adapter and a ton of games, only to have Sega pull the plug a few weeks later. Kinda like that but multiplied by about 10!
Ouch!:eek:

On your iMac, what's the possibility of a G4 upgrade in that thing? (I've never opened one up.) I threw a Sonnet G4/400 ZIF in my B&W tower as soon as I started using OSX PR4 and it helped the Quartz slowness a lot.
 
lame...?

Originally posted by dukestreet
I'm going to be very curious how this all effects the stock. It'll probably go up if everybody starts complaining saying they need new machines, which means Apple will inevitably sell more. Figures.

But is it me, or was this a lame WWDC KeyNote?

I hear ya...I was expecting something big.
 
As far as I know everything after the Summer 2000 iMacs cannot handle any kind of upgrade other than Ram, and airport card. Something about the motherboard design.

I plan on buying a real small PC motherboard with a 14 inch LCD and building it into the iMac.

Just kidding :)

I would never desicrate Flower Power like that.
 
Lame?

Originally posted by dukestreet
But is it me, or was this a lame WWDC KeyNote?
Lame? Not from my point of view (software developer), but for most users, probably.
As a user, though, the Extreme Quartz stuff sound VERY cool. (even though I have to buy a newer machine to see it)
 
Originally posted by Backtothemac
I plan on buying a real small PC motherboard with a 14 inch LCD and building it into the iMac.

Just kidding :)

I would never desicrate Flower Power like that.
LOL! I'd love to see pictures of that! ;)
 
lame?

I agree it wasn't the most exciting keynote ever but I don't think it was lame. Quartz extreem alone is a much needed and exciting addition. It is dissapointing that people wont be able to take advantage of it but I think everyone agrees that OS X needs to be a bit more snappy to compete with the responsiveness that high end windows machines have. I hope it can realy speed things up a bit!

-Matt
 
Re: Lame?

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw

Lame? Not from my point of view (software developer), but for most users, probably.
As a user, though, the Extreme Quartz stuff sound VERY cool. (even though I have to buy a newer machine to see it)

But that's my point, Extreme Quartz sounds cool, but we're not going to see it any time soon and most people out there today won't be able to use it. That's not exactly a good thing. Promises are one thing, I want something that I'll be able to work with now.

Oh, well, anyone care to start discussing what's on deck for MWNY......
 
Re: Re: Lame?

Originally posted by dukestreet


But that's my point, Extreme Quartz sounds cool, but we're not going to see it any time soon and most people out there today won't be able to use it. That's not exactly a good thing. Promises are one thing, I want something that I'll be able to work with now.

Oh, well, anyone care to start discussing what's on deck for MWNY......
I'm not so sure the "most people out there" part of yoru message is acurate. I'd stipulate that most people who CAN run OS X DO either have the video card to do this or have an AGP 2x slot they could upgrade with. People with machines as old as mine can't, but that doesn't surprise me. I think it's safe to say "a lot" of people won't benefit from this, but I also think it will be enough of a selling point to make "a lot" of people (myself included) think about buying a newer Mac.
As far a Backtothemac's issue, where his brand new iBook can't utilize it. That sucks, but the video card in that thing is seriously underpowered. Apple probably should have thought of this and bumped it up at MWSF.
Remember, too, that the rage 128's do support OpenGL and it's not entirely crazy to think that in a future release (10.2.x) they make some of the technology work with these older video cards.
 
I think that it sounds like a lot of good things are coming from Apple (IMHO).

Servers! They could be either really lame are really awesome, I hope Apple is making them right.

Extreme Quartz: Awesome, about time. As for the reqs. There had to be some cutoff. It does suck for anyone who has an Apple laptop that is more than a week old, Power Mac users can upgrade at least. Apple had to do this.

Sherlock 3: Great, on a Windoze machine, I hate searching for anything, it takes for freaking ever! I hope that we can configure Sherlock to not bother looking into certain folders. If I have 300 CDs of MP3s on my HD, I don't want to have to search through them all for something that I know won't be there. Custom Channels for searching your HD would be cool (A digital photo channel, an MP3 channel, a document channel, and a everything else channel would be nice)

iChat: AIM compatibility is nice, but I hope that it supports other chat servers. What would be cool is if you could also set per contact which is the prefered chat program

Inkwell: cool, now if you could use the touchpad on the laptops to enter text, that might be of some limited use, of course us touch typers would find limited use. It does make me wonder about something between a PDA and a laptop that Apple could release for the vertical markets, eg. something that hospitals could use for nurses to get patient info
 
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