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WWDC: Leopard Details

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I don't know if this is the right place to put this, but if the new Apple webpages are any reflection of our leopard will be, I think this will be a GREAT upgrade. Looking forward to seeing Leopard this fall!
 
10.5 Leopard will definitely support 32-bit systems (i.e. G4, Core Duo, etc.)... Jobs mentioned that it can run under 64-bit and 32-bit systems, all in one build. plus, even if you completely ignore this, consider the logic: why would Apple alienate 80+% of its user base (the % that doesn't own G5 or Core 2 Duo systems)... when in fact 10.4 Tiger can run on old G3 systems? trust me, G4 and newer will be supported, to say the very least
 
Thank you

inkhead said:
A couple of notes from Moscone WWDC (woohoo!)

Menubar transparency can be turned off

However after trying it out, you never want to, it makes you more focused, and less distracted. I thought it was ugly, then tried it. It's actually very good for productivity.

It's fast.

Stacks are fantastic.

The new finder is absolutely the best part. How many years have we wanted a cocoa finder? It's HERE!!!!! Browsing network shares is no longer met with delays, it's using the fast Unix finally. I can try to mount 10 shares without every seeing a cursor.

Proper multi-threaded support. No more pauses when clicking on the menubar or anything else. Apps keep chugging along.

No more beachball so far.

It's the perfect OS for productivity. No crazy changes, just refinement to the extreme.

It's a beautiful thing!

DVD player has been able to play HD-DVDs for a long time. It has blu-ray and HD-DVD settings in prefs now.

Dock works fine on the sides, 3D but the icons are sideways (proper) with shadow. Looks awesome on the side. I'd post pictures but I'd rather not be in Apple prison.
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Thank you for all of this Inkhead! Please, keep us posted about other great Leopard features.
 
This has probably been asked about 400 times by now, but judging historically, when can we expect the stream to be up? On iTunes?
 
Safari 3

Platform said:
This is what Apple does best...make things pretty, work well and integrate well with their hardware. 😉

Safari is relly great so far, even with the tiny improvements so far 😀
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Love the new search feature, spelling on the fly, moveable tabs, and speed improvements overall. This is truly great, for a beta 😎
 
elppa said:
There are many things under the hood that will make your computer run faster.

For example NSOperation makes it really easy for developers to take advantage of multiple cores, without having to worry about concurrency.

The result is faster apps.

Adding polish has obviously been a theme in development.

That said, I still think they need to look at the UI, those aqua scroll widgets don't go as well with the unified look than they did with the pin stripes.
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Yeah, we'll see if Steves WWDC07 keynote clip as soon as it reaches apple.com is more impressive, atleast he's a good talker. But I would have wanted more =P, but sure, he might not tell all technical details and whatever.

Atleast new finder seems like an improvement, I hope someone figures out a way to do the sharing without .mac thought, I don't want to pay for .mac, I rather set up my own .mac thank you. Faster and with more storage..
 
resolutions change fine. What do you mean of my desk? Everything is res independent. So CTRL + scrollwheel does this fine. But this feature was already made very clear since last WWDC, IE resolution independence. It also has a bunch of session PDF files on res independence.
 
mrparet said:
I'm not going to put words in your mouths, but I think a lot of us are disappointed at Leopard so far because Tiger was so revolutionary. It brought some amazing new (large) features, namely Dashboard, Spotlight and Automator. With Leopard, it seems like Apple went through Tiger and refined everything they could, while adding some features like Time Machine and Spaces.

This is just me, but Tiger was about bringing some powerful applications to the Mac. Leopard looks like it's going to refine Tiger and add a boat load of smaller features. Remember, there are about 290 features that we don't even know about yet. I'm sure we will be much happier once Leopard ships.
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Those 290 features don't necessarily mean everything either. I thought that a couple of the features in Tiger might be nice, and after changing to Tiger I felt it wasn't that different from Panther overall. However, I then tried using a Panther machine, and... well, I couldn't wait to return to Tiger.

I imagine that Leopard will be much the same way. Plus, Leopard is apparently supposed to be significantly faster in some areas (such as networking, thank goodness!) It even has a new Finder, that will hopefully fix the problems of the old one.

So I'm quite pleased with Leopard. Though, that 3D dock is a little annoying. I'd prefer the dock to go completely side-to-side, at all times. Oh well.
 
inkhead said:
resolutions change fine. What do you mean of my desk? Everything is res independent. So CTRL + scrollwheel does this fine. But this feature was already made very clear since last WWDC, IE resolution independence. It also has a bunch of session PDF files on res independence.
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Does the text still become blurry with CTL + scrollwheel? Because it does on Tiger, as it simply zooms into the rendered picture. I'd guess that Leopard would do the same even if it had resolution independence.
 
Whiners!

My God! I've been reading MacRumors for a while now and never posted, but all this negativity from people that don't have a clue made me really angry.
No improvements? New Finder, new Desktop, Quick Look, Cover Flow, Spaces, Time Machine and Stacks in the Dock will be a great productivity enhancement for those who work with lots of files and apps. The ability to see the contents of files without opening the apps is AMAZING. What do you wanted? An automatic Star Trek geektard generator?
So, all of you whiners go cry to your mummies because you don't like the bloody transparent menu bar and buy a copy of Vista or lame Ubuntu and shut up. Grow up people, this was at a DEVELOPERS conference, not some fantasy world where you deluded and sad whiners dream of impossible gadgets (like the improbable Mac Tablet or whatever).
Also, it will work with 32 bit processors!
 
inkhead said:
yes resolution independence activates when you do CTRL + scrollwheel. 🙂
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That's nonsense, resolution independence is completely different to zoom...

Resolution independence lets you see the whole desktop, from corner to corner, with larger icons/text/etc, clearly, NOT blurry...
 
darwen said:
To all the OS loving iPhone hating people: Please just be happy with this. I am sick of all the complaints about not enough Mac focus. Ya know why Steve hasn't been talking about his precious new OS. There isn't much to talk about. He likes his iPhone more.
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I'm definitly one of the OS loving iPhone hating people. My intrest have always been computers and the OS which runs them, only think I care about from Apple is the macs and that's because they have (or should I say had?) OS X, but tiger doesn't impress me that much and Leopard seems like a quite tame update, it would have required more to make me go "omg omg omg wow that's so much better than Vista".

The iPod isn't the best music player out there.
The iPhone looks rather cool but maybe the Nokia N93 or whatever it's called is a better telephone, both are to expensive for me, I bought my phones for 250 and 350 sek ;/
 
pixieotronic said:
My God! I've been reading MacRumors for a while now and never posted, but all this negativity from people that don't have a clue made me really angry.
No improvements? New Finder, new Desktop, Quick Look, Cover Flow, Spaces, Time Machine and Stacks in the Dock will be a great productivity enhancement for those who work with lots of files and apps. The ability to see the contents of files without opening the apps is AMAZING. What do you wanted? An automatic Star Trek geektard generator?
So, all of you whiners go cry to your mummies because you don't like the bloody transparent menu bar and buy a copy of Vista or lame Ubuntu and shut up. Grow up people, this was at a DEVELOPERS conference, not some fantasy world where you deluded and sad whiners dream of impossible gadgets (like the improbable Mac Tablet or whatever).
Also, it will work with 32 bit processors!
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You forgot to mention the new share folders - access to any of your macs anywhere you are and its seamless just like the share folders in iTunes - thats just awesome.

thanks for this post - I think there are a lot of people that have no idea what they are talking about.
 
pixieotronic said:
My God! I've been reading MacRumors for a while now and never posted, but all this negativity from people that don't have a clue made me really angry.
No improvements? New Finder, new Desktop, Quick Look, Cover Flow, Spaces, Time Machine and Stacks in the Dock will be a great productivity enhancement for those who work with lots of files and apps. The ability to see the contents of files without opening the apps is AMAZING. What do you wanted? An automatic Star Trek geektard generator?
So, all of you whiners go cry to your mummies because you don't like the bloody transparent menu bar and buy a copy of Vista or lame Ubuntu and shut up. Grow up people, this was at a DEVELOPERS conference, not some fantasy world where you deluded and sad whiners dream of impossible gadgets (like the improbable Mac Tablet or whatever).
Also, it will work with 32 bit processors!
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Amen, brother!
 
inkhead said:
A couple of notes from Moscone WWDC (woohoo!)

DVD player has been able to play HD-DVDs for a long time. It has blu-ray and HD-DVD settings in prefs now.
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Glad you're there -- we need some people from our community at this important event.

TWO QUESTIONS, PLEASE!

1) Could you tell us more about DVD player. You said it has been able to play HD-DVD/Blu-Ray for a long time now. Is it just a software thing or do you have to have one of those special drives to use the newer HD discs. Probably a stupid question but the way you said it, it sounds like the Software might be doing the work. :: finger's crossed ::

2) I like the changes to Safari, but was hoping we'd have seen the last of brushed metal and they would've gone with the "Unified-With-a-Tan" iTunes look (to paraphrase John Gruber)... will it be Brushed in Leopard or is just Brushed for now?
 
pixieotronic said:
My God! I've been reading MacRumors for a while now and never posted, but all this negativity from people that don't have a clue made me really angry.
No improvements? New Finder, new Desktop, Quick Look, Cover Flow, Spaces, Time Machine and Stacks in the Dock will be a great productivity enhancement for those who work with lots of files and apps. The ability to see the contents of files without opening the apps is AMAZING. What do you wanted? An automatic Star Trek geektard generator?
So, all of you whiners go cry to your mummies because you don't like the bloody transparent menu bar and buy a copy of Vista or lame Ubuntu and shut up. Grow up people, this was at a DEVELOPERS conference, not some fantasy world where you deluded and sad whiners dream of impossible gadgets (like the improbable Mac Tablet or whatever).
Also, it will work with 32 bit processors!
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Rocking post, mate!

Macrumors? Macwhiners, more like!

I too have been amazed at all the unwarranted negativity. The changes under the hood that enable all the new features make for an awesome update. Bring it on, I say. Go, Apple!
 
anyone else thinking 3D dock = 3D icons, its one of the things i had planned for pearl would be cool to see apple use it.
 
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