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WWDC: Leopard Details
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x32 and x64 Vista
Vista x32 and x64 DVD's ship in Ultimate. DVD's of either OS HAL can be requested for a relatively small (>$20) shipping fee if other flavors of Vista are purchased, e.g., Home Premium.
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10.5 will support both 32 & 64 bit according to the keynote. No need to buy separate versions like Vista users
Vista x32 and x64 DVD's ship in Ultimate. DVD's of either OS HAL can be requested for a relatively small (>$20) shipping fee if other flavors of Vista are purchased, e.g., Home Premium.
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Guys ... there are at least 5 mill PPC machines out there. Npt all Macs are Intel based. We have G3 (32 bit), G4 (32 bit) and G5 (64 bit).
didn't the first preview of leopard include ichat with desktop sharing?
What happened to it? I don't see it on the ichat Leopard page and that was one of my favorite features if I understood it right.
Is that excluded now? I SERIOUSLY hope apple doesn't exclude features like vista did AND have this delay...
What happened to it? I don't see it on the ichat Leopard page and that was one of my favorite features if I understood it right.
Is that excluded now? I SERIOUSLY hope apple doesn't exclude features like vista did AND have this delay...
You've got to be kidding me. Spotlight doesn't work properly, I've yet to find even one of the 3000 available widgets that makes Dashboard worth using and Automator is an application, not an OS enhancement. From a consumer standpoint Panther was a big upgrade; Tiger was mostly smoke and mirrors to con people into upgrading the core OS components. Leopard is the real deal, there are serious new features for consumers and developers alike.
So did they REALLY revamp the finder or simply put more features on an already broken file browser? That's what I really want to know.
As far as I can tell Apple simply slapped a bunch of features on Finder and called it "all new".
Overall I'm unimpressed and won't be spending the money to upgrade to Leopard.
As far as I can tell Apple simply slapped a bunch of features on Finder and called it "all new".
Overall I'm unimpressed and won't be spending the money to upgrade to Leopard.
Wow, all this negativity. I'm really surprised by the comments on Leopard and WWDC being a disappointment. First, Leopard 10.5 isn't claiming to cure cancer lol. Second, I believe most people have their expectations far too high. Pass judgment when the final product is on the market. In the meantime, we know:
1) 64 and 32 bit support
2) New file system (ZFS) and finder (cocoa)
3) Core animation
4) New .Mac for seamless and instant syncing and file searching with multiple systems/desktops.
5) Finder Coverflow (it is an ADDITIONAL OPTION for viewing). I suspect the possibility that Leopard may allow users to configure the GUI in terms of color and scheme, similar to *cough* Windows *cough*cough*, for those that may not want all the flash of the new Leopard system.
6) Stacks (stellar method for tight organization).
7) New iChat 4.0 (remember the "Answering Machine" option discussed a few months ago on Macrumors? Jobs didn't even discuss it, which usually means it's "under wraps". My take: iPhone will have live video conferencing capabilities with iChat 4.0, which is why users can record video away messages), as well as AAC-LD enhanced audio (perhaps for iPhone use as well?). Jobs didn't mention remote desktop use in iChat either.
8) Spaces (I'm using it on the last beta of Leopard and LOVE it). It allows greater multitasking by putting the 64-bit power to use, allowing one desktop to run iTunes in the background, while another for word processing or spreadsheet work, and another and another, with seamless flowing between each. For those who don't have a large monitor, it basically increases work space exponentially.
9) Safari 3. Genius that they have produced a Windows version, to give Windows I.E. users a taste of an great browser that DOESN'T crash repeatedly. This will only entice more Windows/PC users into the world of Apple, Inc.
10) New desktop and consistency throughout the OS, including a much needed revamp of the left side of the Finder menu.
Jobs hasn't even discussed iLife '07, iPhone to OS integration, the "share screen" mystery option, etc. Let's reserve any final judgments for when the product is finalized and keep in mind, Leopard is just an OS with improvements for an already stellar Operating System.
1) 64 and 32 bit support
2) New file system (ZFS) and finder (cocoa)
3) Core animation
4) New .Mac for seamless and instant syncing and file searching with multiple systems/desktops.
5) Finder Coverflow (it is an ADDITIONAL OPTION for viewing). I suspect the possibility that Leopard may allow users to configure the GUI in terms of color and scheme, similar to *cough* Windows *cough*cough*, for those that may not want all the flash of the new Leopard system.
6) Stacks (stellar method for tight organization).
7) New iChat 4.0 (remember the "Answering Machine" option discussed a few months ago on Macrumors? Jobs didn't even discuss it, which usually means it's "under wraps". My take: iPhone will have live video conferencing capabilities with iChat 4.0, which is why users can record video away messages), as well as AAC-LD enhanced audio (perhaps for iPhone use as well?). Jobs didn't mention remote desktop use in iChat either.
8) Spaces (I'm using it on the last beta of Leopard and LOVE it). It allows greater multitasking by putting the 64-bit power to use, allowing one desktop to run iTunes in the background, while another for word processing or spreadsheet work, and another and another, with seamless flowing between each. For those who don't have a large monitor, it basically increases work space exponentially.
9) Safari 3. Genius that they have produced a Windows version, to give Windows I.E. users a taste of an great browser that DOESN'T crash repeatedly. This will only entice more Windows/PC users into the world of Apple, Inc.
10) New desktop and consistency throughout the OS, including a much needed revamp of the left side of the Finder menu.
Jobs hasn't even discussed iLife '07, iPhone to OS integration, the "share screen" mystery option, etc. Let's reserve any final judgments for when the product is finalized and keep in mind, Leopard is just an OS with improvements for an already stellar Operating System.
Windows apps on Leopard
This would be so easy for Apple to do, yet they wisely chose not to. If Windows apps can run on Macs as easily as Mac apps, then what incentive would there be to develop for Mac any further? Sure, Parallels, VMWare, Wine, as well as Apple's own BootCamp will make this a seamless process while running Windows. To make this any easier might be attractive for Switchers, but would ultimately dampen enthusiasm for innovation of Mac Apps. More on ZFS as October approaches....
This would be so easy for Apple to do, yet they wisely chose not to. If Windows apps can run on Macs as easily as Mac apps, then what incentive would there be to develop for Mac any further? Sure, Parallels, VMWare, Wine, as well as Apple's own BootCamp will make this a seamless process while running Windows. To make this any easier might be attractive for Switchers, but would ultimately dampen enthusiasm for innovation of Mac Apps. More on ZFS as October approaches....
Good example because: You illustrate how visual representation of content can be better than a simple list.
bad example because: Would most peple not be importing and storing photos in iPhoto or Aperture and therefore have a visual representation in any case?
I see the point you were trying to make in that the visual element is important, but I think it will be far more beneficial for content which does not already lend itself well for "instant" visual recognition e.g. the content of a PDF or design document etc.
If the cover-flow view does in fact keep some sort of preview of a file contents in a database or as hidden data in a folder (as with thumbnail files in Windows) then I hope there is a way to disable it. Who wants yet more preview images cluttering up hard drives and taking up storage when we already have Aperture, adobe Bridge etc. doing that for the tools that we actually use to be productive with our content.
It looks like "screen sharing..." is now a feature in the new Finder. But, it looks like it may be limited to computers on your network.
I don't mind being wrong, please quote where does it says the OS will run in a 32 bit CPU like G3, G4, & CD. I love to be wrong in this case.
As I already wrote several pages ago, you can check yourself by becoming an online ADC member at http://developer.apple.com/ and download some videos in "ADC on iTunes".
It's just four-way Universal binary, with ppc32/ppc64/intel32/intel64.
That's it !
I really don't know how much 'insane greatness' one man can pull out of a turtleneck in a year but so far I've seen plenty to be pleased about.
We should be very glad that Apple no longer the fragile 'one trick pony' it once was and we should really begin to try and not see OSX in such isolation anymore.
The iphone, for one, is some of the purest 100% apple magic we've ever seen and I for one really see the entire Apple 'experience' as becoming something incredibly powerful and seductive - Itunes - Ipod - Iphone - Macs - OSX - Great S/W Apps - Apple TV - Airport Express etc etc.
Can anyone seriously deny the Apple product profile in 2007 is slowly evolving into something just utterly stunning and Leopard builds some really nice features into what is becoming an incredibly sophisticated home media distribution and management 'system'.
No one comes close to making all this stuff 'WORK' as well as Apple. Nothing comes close to the full Apple experience.
You have to admit it's getting better a little better all the time..
We should be very glad that Apple no longer the fragile 'one trick pony' it once was and we should really begin to try and not see OSX in such isolation anymore.
The iphone, for one, is some of the purest 100% apple magic we've ever seen and I for one really see the entire Apple 'experience' as becoming something incredibly powerful and seductive - Itunes - Ipod - Iphone - Macs - OSX - Great S/W Apps - Apple TV - Airport Express etc etc.
Can anyone seriously deny the Apple product profile in 2007 is slowly evolving into something just utterly stunning and Leopard builds some really nice features into what is becoming an incredibly sophisticated home media distribution and management 'system'.
No one comes close to making all this stuff 'WORK' as well as Apple. Nothing comes close to the full Apple experience.
You have to admit it's getting better a little better all the time..
Hmmm, was hoping they'd add tabbed browsing in Finder...guess not. Would have preferred that to CoverFlow personally. Oh well, 10.6 here we come....or in the meantime, PathFinder.
It doesn't have to be blue.
Go to:
System Preferences -> Appearance -> change appearance to graphite, and highlight color to graphite. It looks way better.
TheAnswer... thanks. I hope that doesn't end up the case. I hate it when a company makes fun of another company for not delivering and then they turn around and do the same. IOW... ichat sharing, release delay, etc.
I need to see the keynote to better understand what is going on I suppose. The text feedback can get me stumped.
There is soooo much left unsaid I feel like this is a matrix movie or something. I want to know about ilife and iwork. I read the rumors about the technologies depending on leapard but it seems more likely that they just have very few developers on it since they delayed leapard for the iphone etc. ilife is probably the last thing they are worried about but still... surely they have something now. I doubt it is reliant upon leapard because surely the majority of the users won't have leapard so....
As for Small White Car. I never read your whole post but just glancing at the highlights... I do love the idea of coverflow (although in itunes it lags a bit) but you do realize you can setup icon previews currently so you can see those photos without needing to click on them. (coverflow seems cooler but...)
I need to see the keynote to better understand what is going on I suppose. The text feedback can get me stumped.
There is soooo much left unsaid I feel like this is a matrix movie or something. I want to know about ilife and iwork. I read the rumors about the technologies depending on leapard but it seems more likely that they just have very few developers on it since they delayed leapard for the iphone etc. ilife is probably the last thing they are worried about but still... surely they have something now. I doubt it is reliant upon leapard because surely the majority of the users won't have leapard so....
As for Small White Car. I never read your whole post but just glancing at the highlights... I do love the idea of coverflow (although in itunes it lags a bit) but you do realize you can setup icon previews currently so you can see those photos without needing to click on them. (coverflow seems cooler but...)
That has been there since the last keynote about Leopard. Launching it just reveals all windows, as far as i can remember.
AppleConnect probably for testing and access to maybe secret features
I believe the Windows backup utility (which is basically a cut down Veritas/EMC Backup Exec) has had the ability to perform regular incremental (and for as long as you have a schedule set "endless") backups for years. I know it is not quite the real time backup that Time Machine claims to offer, but my point was that providing a real time no-brainer backup mechanism on a client OS is not that ground breaking - You can do that with mirroring or scripting to an external drive without much pain - I've been doing that since I first installed Tiger. Maybe with all the hype around ZFS, but I was actually hoping for a solution which would make the Time Machine paradigm practical (for my won uses - I can't criticise the software against other people's needs, although I recognise they could be-different from mine.
In short I wanted optimisation of the storage overhead that will no doubt present itself from keeping Time Machine active for a worthwhile period of time. In other words I need block level copying rather than file level. That's why I'm disappointed at no mention of ZFS when it comes to Time Machine.
From what I've seen of Time Machine so far it is going to be great for the Mom+Pop type users who have a 500 GB HD and rarely modify a large number of files on a regular basis. But for those with larger quantities of data which changes often it is not going to be the best option.
You can get a single high res "screenshot" of Leopard and Leopard Server from apple.com/pr, though they're not the best and are artificially enlarged in an ugly manner.