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So any programmer types have any thoughts on whether Leopard or core animation will require a better graphics processor than the Macbooks have? Or do we think that Leopard will run 100% full eye candy with no stutters on Macbooks?
 
My round up, and probably will voice many opinions here:

- New Desktop & Finder: gr8! :cool:
- Rest of features.. well.. not really that "new" or "top secret" were they... :(
- Is ZFS part of Leopard or not?

I do wonder how well and smooth the new Finder will run. I sometimes even dislike the "preview column" in Tiger if, for instance, a preview of a movie of which I don't have the QuickTime codec is tried to be shown. This usually results in the dreaded spinning beachball of death, and sometimes I need to force-relaunch the Finder.
I expect that the normal list and column views still do exist, if you don't want te use Cover Flow all the time.

But, as it looks now, it seems very very slick! :cool:
 
So... The million dollar question: What's the story with ZFS in Leopard? What was the Sun CEO talking about the other day? Someone please tell me the secret to this whole ZFS thing. It sounds so good.. but not one mention of it today :confused:

Where is ZFS?


A quick search of the apple website revealed: zero.
 

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OMG. I love the sound of this!!

Apple said:
New, faster restarts.

Leopard brings a quicker way to switch between Mac OS X and Windows: Just choose the new Apple menu item “Restart in Windows.” Your Mac goes into “safe sleep” so that when you return, you’ll be right where you were. It’s much faster than restarting the computer each time. Likewise, a “Restart in Mac OS X” menu item in the Boot Camp System Tray in Windows makes for a faster return to Mac OS X. With Windows hibernation enabled, you can pick up where you left off.

This is one step away from what I invisioned the next-gen BootCamp to be: fast-user-switching for your OS... "fast-OS-switching" if you will... Complete with a beautiful cube rollover into XP and back into OS X. You'd think that this would be within reason as long as you could put the Mac to sleep AS you were waking Windows up... sort of a multi-boot mode.

Edit: Aww crap. Beat to the punch again.

Looks like Boot Camp did get one improvement (I don't remember it being mentioned during the keynote):


Bravo to your speed.

-Clive
 
Seems like more eye candy to me
It really is, if you think about it. It doesn't change the way you work. The only major move Apple could make in the coming years is office and business programs. That would be a major killer to Microsoft, seeing as most businesses are tied to windows because of business programs. Other than that, Macs are just 'cool' for now. :apple:
 
I do wonder how well and smooth the new Finder will run. I sometimes even dislike the "preview column" in Tiger if, for instance, a preview of a movie of which I don't have the QuickTime codec is tried to be shown. This usually results in the dreaded spinning beachball of death, and sometimes I need to force-relaunch the Finder.
I ecpect thout that the normal list anc column views stil ldo exist, if you dont' want te use Cover Flow all the time.

Very good point, I hadn't thought of that. Yeah, that would be a potential issue for me as well...
 
Did anyone notice this over on Apple's page about BootCamp?

New, faster restarts.
Leopard brings a quicker way to switch between Mac OS X and Windows: Just choose the new Apple menu item “Restart in Windows.” Your Mac goes into “safe sleep” so that when you return, you’ll be right where you were. It’s much faster than restarting the computer each time. Likewise, a “Restart in Mac OS X” menu item in the Boot Camp System Tray in Windows makes for a faster return to Mac OS X. With Windows hibernation enabled, you can pick up where you left off.

This was something that I predicted! No, I don't have a link to somewhere that I predicted here in the forums, but I have been predicting this among my friends since Leopard was delayed. Now switching between OSes should be more like switching between users! That's awesome!

Personally, I'm really looking forward to Leopard now. And not just for BootCamp, but for everything we're hearing about. And I can't wait to start to hear more about the additional features that haven't yet been mentioned. With all ADC members having fully functional betas, we should start hearing a lot more, don't you think?
 
New Finder looks pretty cool... not sure about that translucent menu bar though....
 
I wonder how the new dock portrays open applications. :confused:

...The little black triangle seems to be a thing of the past.
 

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If it's 64 bit I guess the g4 powerbooks are 10.4 only now. Oh well.

Well it had better run on my current-spec mac mini, which is also 32-bit.

And what happened to ZFS? Was nothing said about it?
 
I think it was a decent keynote...

The thing I am most excited about it 10.5, and that's what he talked about. He said there were hundreds of features and they were only talking about those 10... I would have loved to have seen resolution independent UI stuff, but whatever.

I think time machine and quicklook/finder enhancements are the best news so far.

Interested to see how developers feel about the iPhone Dev workaround...
 
games

seems as if some game companies are gonna start developing for mac again

this may open the door to better hardware advancements such as SLI support and such
 
Looks like Front Row is officially getting the AppleTV treatment in Leopard.
I was gonna mention this too. Where's the Apple Remote kit for us Mac Pro owners though?!

I expected something that really changed the way we work with Finder like another more-useful icon view
The new Finder was just about what I was expecting. I think it looks nice. What kind of "new icon view" were you exactly hoping for?

I think the biggest change here is the new Desktop/Dock/Finder. Not so sure about the new Menubar's transparency, but we'll see. They're quite obviously going with a look that can compete with Vista, complete with a pretty green grassy default desktop picture. Did you notice the glowing blue lights beneath open apps in the Dock now? There's your "Illuminous".

Overall I'm happy with what we've seen of Leopard so far and I think that in the coming months we'll hear about all those "little" 280 other features that might just add together to form a very significant OS X update.
 
What happened to the iChat feature that allows you to control a desktop remotely? I needed that feature.

Secret Features = Missing Features

It's there just because he didn't demo it live doesn't mean its gone, if you look at some of the finder pics youll see "share desktop" etc.
 
"Cover"flow looks more fun than productive, but nobody's forced to use it.


cover flow will work great for people looking through digital photo files...the current finder views just don't work, even at the largest thumbnail setting. I don't use iPhoto, thank you very much, and don't always want to launch aperture for flipping through hundreds of images in a given folder.

good job apple
 
I was hoping for a good, fast and reliable back-up application in the OS

Time Machine

and a better search function (get rid of that stupid Google Desktop).

Spotlight + Sidebar/Finder search

Problem solved.

I'll definitely be installing Vista on my MacBook if I can keep enough drive space open to make it useful (or I'll put it on an external), now that the new Boot Camp will make it much easier to switch between the systems quickly. Overall, nothing completely groundbreaking in Leopard, but lots of nice improvements. Since I won't be paying for it (still living at home for another month after this comes out), I'll be upgrading ASAP.

jW
 
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