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Ahahah, that certainly hits the point!

It's a perfect analysis:
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3rd - Acceptance - We're not there yet, still, you see some early-bloomers already fitting into this category (for ex: people start to "grow fond" of the transparent Menu Bar) and accepting that Leopard's UI is not "that bad at all". In December 2007 I predict almost everyone who was complaining will be: "Leopard rules, I love you Apple!".

Now read this with an Australian accent, National Geographic style :D

Maybe.
But maybe the reason people will like 10.5 will be more for it's new features than the new look... Right know, I can only speak about the UI because I don't have a copy so I can't try the real deal...
 
I saw the new Folder icons in Aperture

Do the folders look like the new icons in Leopard?

They are in Aperture Already :cool:
 

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Whaaaaaaa!

So many nit-picking whiners in here. I am loving Leopard so far. I might not LOVE every detail, and in fact I never have loved every detail in each version of OSX. However, Leopard is looking great and most of the things people are complaining about are customizable anyway. Don't like CoverFlow? Don't use it. Hate the Dock? Hide it.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and Apple has done pretty well with making things that most people find beautiful. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but please stop with the drama already.
 
So far I'm really liking the new look overall. I agree about the overabundance of whiners. If the most common gripe of the people are little superficial things, then the OS must be doing pretty well under the hood. :p

Definitely upgrading, I'd love to see how my Macbook handles with it.
 
So many nit-picking whiners in here. I am loving Leopard so far. I might not LOVE every detail, and in fact I never have loved every detail in each version of OSX. However, Leopard is looking great and most of the things people are complaining about are customizable anyway. Don't like CoverFlow? Don't use it. Hate the Dock? Hide it.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and Apple has done pretty well with making things that most people find beautiful. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but please stop with the drama already.

Ditto. :)
 
You'll be impressed by the quantity of users that keeps the Dick hided. Many use QuickSilver as their app launcher or spotlight.

I've never used Quicksilver. But I found that the Dock hiding option has always been the way to go since it frees up the display real estate on the bottom. Spotlight has always been efficient for me as well. I use it all the time to launch lower priority stuff, and is much faster than browsing through applications, which I have a lot of.

On another note, I always keep that hidden too, what with laws against indecent exposure and all. :p
 
Aloha everyone,

Like others have noted, my success with the Think Secret photo pages leave a bit to be desired, but I have been able to get quite a few of them to load (after some time). I noticed on the .Mac slide that the email storage is listed at 2.098GB and the iDisk storage is listed at 8.902GB, which is an insane increase over the current 1GB (unless my information is incorrect). As a matter of fact, one of the podcasts to which I have listened has a series on ".Mac replacements", one of the biggest gripes being the "paltry" amount of storage space, especially when compared to other site's offerings, such as Google.

If .Mac stays the same, with respect to price, and the storage increases to 12GB (if the screen shot is to be believed), then Apple will get one more .Mac user!

:apple:HawaiiMacAddict
 
Couple of Questions about the new Dock.

I would like to know if the new dock still hides?, Zooms, and can be set that the hidden apps icons are transparent like in the current version of the Dock?

Thanks.
 
1. you can have it in a grid if that bothers you

2. It's soposed to it give a better look then straight up, that would be crazy

3. Cuz it pwns:p
 
Why do the stacks veer to the right? Does that drive anyone else crazy? I can't understand the reasoning behind that.

Doesn't have something to do with the natural motion of the mouse moving up and towards the right (assuming your right handed)?

-Kevin
 
Doesn't have something to do with the natural motion of the mouse moving up and towards the right (assuming your right handed)?

I guess a left curve will be an option (like a grid is) for those evil-handed beings that apparently exist :D
 
They allow you lefties to use a computer? ;)

I didnt even think they could vote :p

The screenshots look great. The new folder icons are nice since thehy are int he same perspective as the rest of the icons and i love the subtle text and images on them.

Also, is the menu bar simply transparent or does it adapt to the colors in the background automatically. I have heard both but i haven't gotten a definitive answer. Leopard is shaping up to be quite nice IMO
 
I'm not really a big fan of most of the cosmetic changes they've made to Leopard.

First, I think the menu bar shouldn't be translucent. It gives rise to the opportunity for visual obscurity depending on what happens to be in the desktop background you're presently viewing.

I'm not really 100% convinced that the iTunes 7 look is really the way to go with Finder windows, but I will give you that it's somewhat more clean than what's gone on before. It's just that it doesn't "pop" out at me as being the right thing.

As far as stacks... That's gotta be one of the most fugly UI things I've ever seen. A menu should look like a menu, not a string of icons. A busy desktop will visually interfere with a stacks "menu" as it is presently designed.

One thing Apple could have done that would have benefitted them greatly would have been to create an auto-organizing menu to hold applications in a categorized way. I have been doing that on Macs and on Winblows boxen for years and years, all by hand.

One thing I'm curious about is how much of a benefit Leopard is going to be for those of us still running the legacy PPC architecture, other than bells-and-whistles and "newer" underpinnings to support newer versions of products.

I'm not trying to be a wet towel here, but I'm having trouble seeing sufficient cause for me to upgrade.
 
Doesn't have something to do with the natural motion of the mouse moving up and towards the right (assuming your right handed)?

-Kevin

That's true. Also true: Most Mac users are accustomed to reading text (such as filenamesl.) from left to right and h-o-r-i-z-o-n-t-a-l-l-y! :p
 
One thing I'm curious about is how much of a benefit Leopard is going to be for those of us still running the legacy PPC architecture, other than bells-and-whistles and "newer" underpinnings to support newer versions of products.

I'm not sure, but I can only imagine that you will see less and less major improvements to the PPC architecture, as the future of Apple right now is Intel.

Granted, they won't/shouldn't make performance worse, but I think moving forward most major performance improvements will be geared towards the Intel chipsets.

-Kevin
 
And well Apple should be focused on the Intel platform. No question. I'm glad that Apple's moving forward, but at the same time I'm also happy that (at least for the forseeable future) I'll be able to repurpose my current equipment using Linux.

The first Mac I've repurposed is my "beige" PowerMac G3. It was (initially) a hassle trying to get Debian up and running on it, but now that I know the process, I can readily (if with a bit of inconvenience) go through that. However, it works beautifully as both a web server and a file server. It's also cool as hell that I can actually run the latest version of Firefox on it (even though as a headless server the only things I'm using are the OS, Apache, Samba, SSH and SFTP).
 
what if you have more than the seen 12-15 items in a stack?? Will it smoosh them together??
 
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