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What do you think will happen at WWDC in regards to the MBP release?

  • No hardware announced

    Votes: 59 34.3%
  • Both 14” & 16” announced with miniLED

    Votes: 45 26.2%
  • Both 14” & 16” announced without miniLED

    Votes: 62 36.0%
  • M1X (or M2) chip just put into current 13” and 16” (no refreshed design)

    Votes: 5 2.9%
  • Something else? Comment below!

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Total voters
    172
Although I do think a 14 and 16 without miniLED will be announced, I still have a gut feeling we may just get an M1X thrown into the current 13 and 16 models, maybe with a 1080p camera.

The wait is crippling at this point 😂
 
I'm voting that there won't be hardware announcements. Too many high profile leakers/analysts/supply chain sources are absent from the "it'll be announced at WWDC" party. The only way I could see it happening is if they announced it as a preview like they did with the Mac Pro in 2013 and 2019 and the iMac Pro in 2017. Prosser says it'll happen, but Gurman and Kuo don't and they're more reliable. We have Chinese regulatory filings for the batteries, but that's not typically an indicator of an immediate release (we had the M1 MacBook Air's battery not too long after WWDC). We're not much farther off, but we're still a ways off.
True, Kuo at least hasn't gotten any more specific than 'H2 2021'... if not WWDC when would the next good opportunity to launch be though? They will certainly want an event for a big redesign and unveiling a completely new chip SKU, and while a special MacBook Pro event in late June, July or August is certainly possible, for June it seems odd not to just roll it into WWDC, and in August you risk overshadowing the iPhones at the start of September. That leaves a July event, which fits with the traditional summer MBP releases, the rumours of H2 2021, but if the launch is to be early July then a MBP announcement at WWDC 1 month prior also fits. An announcement early July with a launch at the end of July also potentially eats into iPhone buildup coverage throughout August, so maybe also not desirable.
 
Final prediction: Both 14 and 16" new hardware models announced, but only the 16" has mini-LED in the higher tier option. Shipping begins late July, with mini-LED versions severely constrained.

"If we humans don't take risks as a species, we are doomed"
 
Final prediction: Both 14 and 16" new hardware models announced, but only the 16" has mini-LED in the higher tier option. Shipping begins late July, with mini-LED versions severely constrained.

"If we humans don't take risks as a species, we are doomed"
I can live with that. I'll order and wait half a year, no worries.
 
That very well may be. I realize Apple has made announcements in the past for hardware. I just don't see it this time. I may very well be wrong and that is fine. Whatever happens, I don't have a problem waiting.
Possibly the strongest reason to expect some hardware announcement is the age of the 16" Pro. Given it's probably realistically their flagship Mac (80% of Mac sales are notebook form factor, and the Mac Pro is niche expensive) it's already gone a surprisingly long time between updates, the longest ever as far as I can see for the 15/16". As the next opportunity to launch may well be October, do they really want to let this important model sit untouched for 23 months? They've of course gone that long and longer for other Mac models, but those were comparatively niche models, and/or limited by chip availability, or had their whole future in doubt...
 
Possibly the strongest reason to expect some hardware announcement is the age of the 16" Pro. Given it's probably realistically their flagship Mac (80% of Mac sales are notebook form factor, and the Mac Pro is niche expensive) it's already gone a surprisingly long time between updates, the longest ever as far as I can see for the 15/16". As the next opportunity to launch may well be October, do they really want to let this important model sit untouched for 23 months? They've of course gone that long and longer for other Mac models, but those were comparatively niche models, and/or limited by chip availability, or had their whole future in doubt...
You bring up a very good point I had not considered.
 
No MacBook announcement.

The delivery dates for current 13- and 16-inch models haven’t slipped. Whenever new models are about to be announced, the delivery dates almost always slip. Apple doesn’t deliver old models after an announcement and production lines change to the new models.

More importantly, no one credible like Kuo and Gurman has predicted MacBooks for WWDC. As much as people hate Digitimes, those guys have a lot of ears in the actual supply chain.
 
No MacBook announcement.

The delivery dates for current 13- and 16-inch models haven’t slipped. Whenever new models are about to be announced, the delivery dates almost always slip. Apple doesn’t deliver old models after an announcement and production lines change to the new models.

More importantly, no one credible like Kuo and Gurman has predicted MacBooks for WWDC. As much as people hate Digitimes, those guys have a lot of ears in the actual supply chain.
It’s a good point. Hope you’re wrong 😊

Also wonder if they’ll keep some of the Intel models going and that’s why there’s no slippage? I don’t pretend to know if that would be the case, but would be unexpected and interesting.
 
Hopefully they make them! At the same time, they just released the 13 inch, so I doubt a 14 inch. 16 inch is way overdue.
 
No MacBook announcement.

More importantly, no one credible like Kuo and Gurman has predicted MacBooks for WWDC. As much as people hate Digitimes, those guys have a lot of ears in the actual supply chain.

It’s a good point. Hope you’re wrong 😊

Also wonder if they’ll keep some of the Intel models going and that’s why there’s no slippage? I don’t pretend to know if that would be the case, but would be unexpected and interesting.
If that‘s true above, I‘lol sit back and laugh my darn full head off at all these Youtubers and analyst saying that it will release hardware, not to mention all of those Macrumor no it all‘s. 🤪 if they do release hardware, then good. 👍
 
No MacBook announcement.

The delivery dates for current 13- and 16-inch models haven’t slipped. Whenever new models are about to be announced, the delivery dates almost always slip. Apple doesn’t deliver old models after an announcement and production lines change to the new models.

More importantly, no one credible like Kuo and Gurman has predicted MacBooks for WWDC. As much as people hate Digitimes, those guys have a lot of ears in the actual supply chain.
A few things to consider:
  • Gurman, in a way, did indicate WWDC. He said the new MBPs would launch “as soon as early this summer,” which would match up with a WWDC timeframe.
  • MBP times aren’t slipping because they’re going to continue selling Intel MBPs longer than they’ve continued selling Intel variants of their other machines. The MBP is harder to abruptly switch to ASi, with no Intel option, since it is their flagship professional computer. Many current MBP users depend on Intel workflows and Apple wants to give them a last chance after the new variants are unveiled.
 
No MacBook announcement.

The delivery dates for current 13- and 16-inch models haven’t slipped. Whenever new models are about to be announced, the delivery dates almost always slip. Apple doesn’t deliver old models after an announcement and production lines change to the new models.

More importantly, no one credible like Kuo and Gurman has predicted MacBooks for WWDC. As much as people hate Digitimes, those guys have a lot of ears in the actual supply chain.
I suppose with Kuo it technically isn't incompatible with what he said, as he hasn't been any more specific than 'H2 2021' - I've found while he is usually right on the nose with the what, he can be a little off (or in this case vague) with the when sometimes. At least it's now less than 24h until we find out, so not too much prolonged wondering!
 
A few things to consider:
  • Gurman, in a way, did indicate WWDC. He said the new MBPs would launch “as soon as early this summer,” which would match up with a WWDC timeframe.
  • MBP times aren’t slipping because they’re going to continue selling Intel MBPs longer than they’ve continued selling Intel variants of their other machines. The MBP is harder to abruptly switch to ASi, with no Intel option, since it is their flagship professional computer. Many current MBP users depend on Intel workflows and Apple wants to give them a last chance after the new variants are unveiled.
This makes perfect sense-- they'll sell the Intel MBPs alongside the M1s for a time, just as they've done with the Air and 13" MBP. That's why the MBP times aren't slipping.
 
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No MacBook announcement.

The delivery dates for current 13- and 16-inch models haven’t slipped. Whenever new models are about to be announced, the delivery dates almost always slip. Apple doesn’t deliver old models after an announcement and production lines change to the new models.

More importantly, no one credible like Kuo and Gurman has predicted MacBooks for WWDC. As much as people hate Digitimes, those guys have a lot of ears in the actual supply chain.
Yeah I found it strange that the iPad Pro (2020) didn’t slip either this year before the announcement and there were no reports of the 21.5 iMac slipping prior to the spring event either (I didn’t personally check on that though).

However, I did notice a well known drop shipper here in the UK did instantly drop the price of the older iPP models at the same time as listing the new iPP models (which was exactly when pre-orders began).

Maybe apple have realised that slipping lead times is as good as leaking product launches and have now decided to use drop shippers to reduce their remaining stock levels of old models by allowing their own controlled price reductions.
 
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It’s a good point. Hope you’re wrong 😊

Also wonder if they’ll keep some of the Intel models going and that’s why there’s no slippage? I don’t pretend to know if that would be the case, but would be unexpected and interesting.

Usually, there is some slippage as Quanta only has so many lines available for production. For example, you can still buy a 21.5-inch iMac today from the online Apple Store, but BTO deliveries are pushed out to June 23. Quanta only has so many lines available for production. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple kept the Intel-based MacBooks for a little longer. But normally what happens is most items in the product family get pushed out due to production stockpiling for launch.
 
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A few things to consider:
  • Gurman, in a way, did indicate WWDC. He said the new MBPs would launch “as soon as early this summer,” which would match up with a WWDC timeframe.
  • MBP times aren’t slipping because they’re going to continue selling Intel MBPs longer than they’ve continued selling Intel variants of their other machines. The MBP is harder to abruptly switch to ASi, with no Intel option, since it is their flagship professional computer. Many current MBP users depend on Intel workflows and Apple wants to give them a last chance after the new variants are unveiled.

The biggest indicator for me was Gurman not saying anything this weekend. He usually writes a roundup article reconfirming what's about to launch. For example, he wrote that piece recapping iOS and iPadOS 15 features. But he's been absolutely silent about any hardware.
 
The biggest indicator for me was Gurman not saying anything this weekend. He usually writes a roundup article reconfirming what's about to launch. For example, he wrote that piece recapping iOS and iPadOS 15 features. But he's been absolutely silent about any hardware.
He has also been completely silent about miniLED, it’s going to be very interesting tomorrow to see what hardware Apple finally has up their sleeve (if anything).
 
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