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WWDC: New Tiger Features

BornAgainMac said:
Safari should have been updated today but then that would steal a feature from Tiger. I wanted something free to download today from Apple.
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I'm with you on that. I guess the new Safari is only available with Tiger? Since they've been trying to get more and more people to use Safari, it doesn't seem like the best thing to do would be to only offer it with the OS update. It seems like more and more apps are going to become unavailable for downloads. Except iTunes of course.

At the store website, it says the moniters can also be used with PC's, was this one of the features they mentioned? Who would have a windows box with an Apple moniter? Maybe I'm being stupid, it just seemed weird.
 
This will just go into my list of things that people thought were fake but were real.

Goes to show that a) "Apple wouldn't make something like that" and b) "I can make a screen like this myself" are NOT reasons that something is fake.

arn
 
Spotlight!

I've been waiting FOREVER for an OS maker to put something like spotlight and the finder smart folders in the system. This alone, IMO, is enough to warrent the upgrade. Did anyone else notice that it searches movie and image files content (presumably metadata in there) when finding results.

Automater looks cool, too. I hate writing Applescript.

Oh, yeah, as a .mac user, the tighter integration is also very welcome.

I wanna see more info on the new Unix stuff, though. The Apple sneak peak wasn't very detailed. In particular it looks like it may finally be easy to manage startup items instead of writing the scripts by hand. (Call me lazy, but I don't like writing repetive scripts).
 
So Apple seems to take their time for the next release of OS X and I think their should and create an OS that will kick ass when it's released in a about a year from now. The preview looks great.
 
Looks like apple is stepping on the toes of its independent developers again...

Spotlight seems suspiciously similar to launchbar...

Dashboard is a lot like konfabulator...


I still remember the drama surrounding sherlock and watson during the jaguar release...

What is apple thinking? I can't seem to understand the logic behind what they're doing.
 
Blue apple menu sucks!

I just saw the Tiger presentation on apple.com, and the blue background behind the Apple menu and the Spotlight menu is horrible. It breaks fundamental interface standards.
Every menu in every application has a white background that changes to blue when selected. Not anymore! Now scrubbing between menus now changes the selection indicator depending on the menu title? That doesn't make any sense. Why highlight the Apple menu when it is now only used for rare events (system preferences and shutdown/restart/logout)? The ONLY reason I see for this is to make the Apple menu look visually more similar to the Windows Start menu. Except that they do completely different things and have completely different levels of importance with regards to user interaction!
Here's hoping Apple comes to its sense before shipping, but "style over usability" seems to be the rule these days in cupertino.
PS> Boo to ripping off Konfabulator! I still remember when Apple bought the shareware code instead of stealing the idea (Windowshade, SoundJam).
 
Remains to be seen...

...what kind of performance boost Tiger will provide. I'm assuming that more and more of the OS (windowserver to be exact) will be moved into the graphics chip instead of being processed in the cpu. Overall though, Tiger looks like a well refined piece of software.

About the widgets, I agree that many of them look awful, and I doubt I would use this feature much. Keep in mind that Apple did the same thing to Watson with Sherlock. The thing is, I like Watson 10x better than Sherlock, in fact, I don't even use Sherlock. Now if only Apple would try to copy ShapeShifter...
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a question first:

Core Image/Video seems interesting... :) I wonder if it will speed up iMovie, FC Express/Pro, and VJ apps?

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I really like the concept of Automater, that's something a code-illitarate like me has waited for.

I'm not sure 'bout the widgets-schmidgets... the iTunes remote and the orange calculator look gross, the address-widget is even worse... I hope they tone 'em down.

still no usable VPN-options, still no multi-client iChat... :(

I don't care about the displays, but Tiger might end up pretty cool, given the time for improvents and fix-ups till it's release next year.

now all I need is footnotes and endnotes in TextEdit... ;)

vSpacken
 
Dashboard—Sun Looking Glass-ish

A little Sun Looking Glass-ish with the controls on the back...

from http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/dashboard.html

"Elegantly designed Dashboard accessories animate in cool and interesting ways using the new Core Image technology built into Tiger. To change the color or font for a sticky note, flip the note around — all Widgets controls are on the back to keep them out of sight until you need them."
 
Minimum System Requirements?

Any mention of what the minimum specs to run Tiger are? Will Blue and White macs and older iMacs and iBooks be supported?

I think it sounds like a good update with its many new features and technologies. The iChat Av alone is a huge imporvement and the new searching meta data is excelent. Of course, Safari 2.0 will be a welcome app.

Its too bad there was no mention or place for VoIP. That would be an awesome technology for Apple to get involved with and tie into the DigitalHub and lifestyle device plan theyhave now.
 
Why is it so bad that Dashboard is similar to Konfabulator? Everyone seems to agree its useful, why not integrate it into the OS?

/Not trolling, just asking
 
64 bit - how many people have been bitching for so long about 64 bit OS??????

I like the new search feature - now the real question: Can Apple FINALLY make mail work like it should! By that I mean, when you reply to an email, if you move it to another folder the link breaks/drops and you can't pull up your reply. I hope this works better in mail with the new search features.

All-in-all I think Tiger looks like a good solid finish to OS X. Remember, updates will start to drop off.

As to the monitors - I wish they would have dropped the price a little bit. Would have been nice. Glad to see they still offer the 17" - not sure but think that price did drop as well.
 
MacFan26 said:
Anyone seen the Konfabulator site today?? It says, "Cupertino, start your photocopiers! Why wait 'till "first half of 2005" when you can get the original Dashboard now?"
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OMG that's hilarious. Glass houses and all that.
 
I do not see the $129 (more for me, because I'm Canadian) cost justification for Tiger. The only useful thing that it has for me is Automator.
 
Thirteenva said:
Looks like apple is stepping on the toes of its independent developers again...
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I still remember the drama surrounding sherlock and watson during the jaguar release...
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Yeah, I remember that one. and now look ... no one even uses Sherlock.

Despite the big-bannered hype, I really can't think that Redmond will alter their Longhorn spec.

Looks like I'll still be Jaguar and still be proud. :)
 
Yep.. looks like Apple have ripped off another product, judging by Konfabulator's website.

Apple don't integrate, they rip off products... SwitchX, Watson... now Konfabulator.


ndanimal said:
Why is it so bad that Dashboard is similar to Konfabulator? Everyone seems to agree its useful, why not integrate it into the OS?

/Not trolling, just asking
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craptacular

Dude. Can you get any crappier of an announcement set? Lets see they demoed an OS that won't be available for at least 8-12 months. (No gripes with that since that was what I and may others were predicting.) And they release new monitors. Overall? Impressively craptastic. Here's hoping for some major releases between now and that Paris thing. But I'm doubting it since Job's releases major hardware at "events". :(
This was just plain sad.
 
Thirteenva said:
Looks like apple is stepping on the toes of its independent developers again...

Spotlight seems suspiciously similar to launchbar...

Dashboard is a lot like konfabulator...


I still remember the drama surrounding sherlock and watson during the jaguar release...

What is apple thinking? I can't seem to understand the logic behind what they're doing.
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The difference to me is that Spotlight really needs to be built-in to the system and although the interface may be the same as launchbar (which I haven't used) all the metadata that it is searching needs to be at the system level.

Dashboard, on the other hand, seems like pretty much a straight rip at this point.

Though I somewhat agree with someone on Konfab's forum who pointed out Apple tried putting widgets in the dock and it didn't work, then tried putting them in the menu and it didn't work, and now they are putting them into Exposé.
 
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