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Who heard him claim that this thing pumps out a teraflop? A freaking teraflop!? My dual G5 only cranks out 28 and that's with both procs at full tilt, either they've incorporated a 42U Xserve cluster in this bad boy or someone needs to go to math class more often.
 
clayj said:
I'll be preordering 2 of these... one for the living room, one for the bedroom. The built-in integration with Windows Media Center (stream music and movies from WMC PC) is wicked cool.
For some, this feature is what will spur sales. Specifically, the Xbox 360 is the first Media Center Extender capable of playing high definition content from MCE 2005. As a bonus, it also plays games.
 
G.Kirby said:
I hope this makes it easier to port more games to Mac. If this is the case this will be great for Apple. Bring on the heavy hitting titles, Half Life 3, UT 2006 etc. :D

That would ge great...but what do you need to run HL3....Xserve cluster with DC G5's :eek: :eek: :p
 
"There are many rumors about the clock speed and nature of the PowerPC based cores, but most seem to indicate that they are some sort of derivative of the PPE that is in the Cell processor. Clock speeds have been rumored to be around 3.2GHz for the multi-core CPU, and given that Xbox 360 is expected to launch this year it will most likely be built on a 90nm process. The CPU will be able to execute 6 simultaneous threads, meaning that each of the three PowerPC cores is multi-threaded - once again a similarity to Cell's PPE. We will hopefully be getting more confirmation on the CPU architecture behind Xbox 360 at E3 next week.

The system is outfitted with ATI's next generation GPU, R5xx class, connected to a shared 512MB of system memory. Note that Microsoft is stating that the Xbox 360 offers "more than" 512MB of total memory, which means that the rumors of the ATI GPU having around 10MB of embedded DRAM are most likely true. This isn't ATI's first GPU design with embedded DRAM; the Flipper GPU that was used in Nintendo's Gamecube featured a full 3MB of embedded DRAM. The GPU features "48 ALU pipes" but ATI/Microsoft haven't elaborated beyond that."


Write up at Anandtech...looks sweet.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2414
 
SPUY767 said:
Who heard him claim that this thing pumps out a teraflop? A freaking teraflop!? My dual G5 only cranks out 28 and that's with both procs at full tilt, either they've incorporated a 42U Xserve cluster in this bad boy or someone needs to go to math class more often.

That is not programmable power ;)
 
One question i have not sen posted is how stable is the xbox 360? That is one of the most important things in gaming, who wants to get to that last lvl and have your system lock up on you? ;)
 
ijimk said:
One question i have not sen posted is how stable is the xbox 360? That is one of the most important things in gaming, who wants to get to that last lvl and have your system lock up on you? ;)

It is going to be released in 2006 ;)
 
Symtex said:
My bet is that microsoft is still struggling with making the BC possible. If there is no mention of it at E3 then you can expect the X360 not to have it. It's not a big deal. Nintendo has release every single consolde before the revolution not BC ans still moved hardware. My ol' xbox won't stop working when I purchased the X360.


I beg to differ. Backwards compatibility is essential.

I am looking at the online xbox live situation. Many of your online buddies will not be buying the new console upon release. It would be convenient if you could just load up one of your old titles and get online with them and play the old games until they upgrade to the new console.

If there is no BC, you will be continually hooking up xboxes to play games - old and new. This doesn't make sense.

aussie_geek
 
Knowingly inflate

Lacero said:
It doesn't make sense to knowingly inflate system specs to only underachieve them.

Someone needs to tell that to Steve "we'll be at 3 ghz in a year" Jobs.
 
Lacero said:
I can see GLpraxis rolling his eyes now.
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What do you mean by GLpraxis?



edit : GFLPraxis - a MacRumors member :rolleyes: :eek: ... not sure what planet I'm on today :p

aussie_geek
 
ijimk said:
One question i have not sen posted is how stable is the xbox 360? That is one of the most important things in gaming, who wants to get to that last lvl and have your system lock up on you? ;)

The Xbox 1 is about as stable as the other three consoles, and it least it doesn't over heat like the new slim PSTwo.

I have crashed my Xbox 4 times, each time running demos of games that weren't finished yet (OXM demo discs are highly unstable).


I just got my Dual G5 2.3, on the same day, a trpile core 3.2 Ghz G5 game console is announced.

What a great f***in' week!
 
Sirus The Virus said:
Finally, something impressive from Microsoft.
Huh? Microsoft ALWAYS releases impressive products. This one just happens to be impressively good. ;)
 
Macworld.co.uk:

3.2GHz+ Macs by Christmas?
By Macworld staff


Microsoft's choice of 3.2GHz PowerPC processors in its new Xbox 360 could suggest significantly faster Macs when the console ships at Christmas.

Microsoft's newly-unveiled console is powered by a custom-made IBM PowerPC-based three-core chip running at 3.2GHz, and supported by 512MB of GDDR3 RAM.

The Register last year claimed these customised processors to be based on IBM's PowerPC 976 chip, itself based on IBM's Power 5 architectire and fabricated at 65 nanometres.

Each processor offers multi-threading technology, allowing it to process two program instruction streams at the same time. The company claims the processor "delivers 1-Terraflop of system-level, floating-point performance".

EE Times describes the system as, "marking a further step in the evolution of videogame consoles into powerful home entertainment servers".

Apple's G5 promise

Apple's G5 processors are also variants of IBM's Power architecture, and Microsoft's stated intention to ship consoles equipped with 3.2GHz processors by Christmas suggests faster Macs by then too.

In June 2003 Apple CEO Steve Jobs claimed Apple would reach 3GHz within the year, a deadline which passed because IBM and Apple found a series of unexpected problems moving to 65 nanometres.

Equipped with a 20GB hard drive, Xbox 360 also offers 512MB of GDDR3 RAM and an ATI graphics processing unit running at 500 MHz, with 10MB of embedded DRAM - one of the fastest such processors in the industry.

The unit will ship with a 12X dual-layer DVD-ROM drive, three USB 2.0 ports, two memory unit slots, and support for four wireless game controllers. It supports progressive-scan DVD movies and a slew of DVD and CD formats.
 
Any chance of us Mac users being able to stream media to this new xbox? I'm certianly not going to buy a windows media center just for that, and I'm not going to buy an xbox360 knowing that I can't use one of its best features.

PLEASE say that someone will be able to write a program for OSX to stream to it!?!
 
A couple more tidbits for ya:

System is watercooled (not surprising, since apple has to watercool anything over 2.5ghz).

This will be the first Media center extender that supports HD content... awesome!

I honestly dont know anything true about the next nintendos or PS3's specs, but anyone who says this thing is not impressive and will be stomped on by those 2 is talking out their ass.... This thing is def next gen, and with all the touted features above and beyond gaming, someone had better have some tricks at E3 to surpass this!
 
yoda13 said:
OK, I admit that I don't really understand the difference in the processors. I know they are different than the G5s that Apple is using, but that just sounds so much better than what we have. Are the specs bogus, and if not, why are the PowerMacs lagging so much? Please don't flame me here...I really am trying to understand this difference. :confused: :eek:


I don't think it is possible to so such an analysis until more details of the processor comes out.

I plan on keeping an eye on ars technica to get the real story..

Max.
 
BillHarrison said:
I honestly dont know anything true about the next nintendos or PS3's specs, but anyone who says this thing is not impressive and will be stomped on by those 2 is talking out their ass.... This thing is def next gen, and with all the touted features above and beyond gaming, someone had better have some tricks at E3 to surpass this!


I agree...this thing looks solid. People will bash it because it's MS.

" "We want to design the most powerful, elegant and useful design for developers to create games with Xbox 360," said the impressively tall, lanky Holmdahl. "With the Xbox we had a merchant semi-conductor relationship. With Xbox 360 we have designed and own the chipset, so we can go to whomever we want with it. We're not paying Intel and Nvidia this time," he explained, referring to the exorbitant price paid out each time an Xbox was manufactured. "

" "We worked with wind tunnel companies to decrease the noise and sound of the system." All computers have fans or cooling systems to keep the silicon from melting, and the Xbox uses a combination of both. It has a built-in, air-tight coolant system that looks like a miniature water heater. It sucks the hot air out of the core chip area and passes it through a carefully engineered wind tunnel to exit it out of the system. Other chipsets use miniature fans to keep the heat down. "This system will be quieter than Xbox 1." Which is saying something, considering how loud the PlayStation 2 is in comparison."

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/612/612995p1.html
 
ZildjianKX said:
"My modded $300 Xbox 360 runs Tiger faster than your $3000 powermac"

J/K :D

Any info on backwards compatibility?

I was wondering about modifying it and running OS X on it. Way over my head but if one of you geniuses can pull it my next PowerMac is an XBox.
 
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