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GFLPraxis said:
Seen the Revolution rumors recently? If you've read the Aries rumor you'd be saying "XBox who?" about now :D

Problem with the XBox 360 is that there is NOTHING NEW.

Better graphics? So what? It's an XBox 1.5!

The Nintendo Revolution already has my money the way these things are going.

I'm with you as well. I have always had a Nintendo system and what I'm hearing on the revolution I am really liking. I want a console system for game enjoyability, i want to try something new, not have a glorified computer that only plays games (and runs Windows Media Center) providing my entertainment. The Revolution will be able to play my DVDs and if they have the same type of games the Gamecube has (Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Windwaker) and they create a new way to play those, I am completely sold.

I want a console gaming system that I can have real creative fun with and possibly have SOME entertainment features (DVD yes, mp3 no), I do not want a computer.
 
neutrino23 said:
I don't think you can compare these machines with general purpose machines. Think of them like dragsters. They go real fast in a straight line, but they can't handle curves like a Porsche. This is not a criticism. When the only thing you want to do is process digital arrays in certain ways then it makes sense to streamline the hardware.

No they are more like toasters, great for making toast, but you try and get a bagle in and man, the damn thing gets stuck and your there with the fork trying to dig it out....you know.
 
GFLPraxis said:
You are completely uninformed.

Firstly, IBM has a special PowerPC. It's in order (most chips are out of order), and far lacking in performance per MHz.

It is the only IBM chip that runs at over 3 GHz.

There are three of these in the XBox 360. Cheap little processors with a high clock speed.


The Cell has ONE 4 GHz PowerPC and four APU's. When they say "four core" only ONE core is a PowerPC.

We don't WANT these in a PowerMac.


YOU ARE MAC USERS! Don't you know the MHz Myth?



I can't believe you actually posted this twice in this thread. That is ridiculous. What's wrong with you?


And then you post something like this: "I literally laughed out loud at your pathetic excuse at a rebuttal. Do you want me to explain in detail? It might hurt your tiny little brain."

Get a life bro.
 
As far as I know, those 3 core chips of IBMs have quite a reduced instruction set that allows them to go faster. Its not like they need all the instructions of a regular computer. They just need the ones that allow it to be stunning with graphics and such. Anyway, it can't be used as a computer of any sort because its a RISC processor.

So I don't want to hear any, "Hmm.....what should I get, a Mac Mini or an XBox 2??" :p
 
Wow, Sony & Nintendo better have something pretty snazzy because this sounds absolutely amazing.

3x 3.2 GHZ!!!

Halo 3 is gonna ROCK.
 
Blackheart said:
Hmmm... probably NOT. Seeing that Virginia Tech (2200 G5's) does about 10 teraflops...

1 teraflops of total power, not programmable power.
 
I don't think it's a stretch to say it can do 1 trillion floating point operations a second. The PPC chip is extremely optimized to do the same type of operation again and again and to do it very fast. Here's hoping we see some ultra realistic simulations in games. The Project Gotham Racing 3 looks very realistic.
 
I havn't played on my xBox for about 3 weeks, and my GC for about 4 months.

So will i be buying?

Since the desire to buy a DS lasted for only a few days probably not.

So this must mean i am growing up!?! :eek:
 
Lacero said:
I don't think it's a stretch to say it can do 1 trillion floating point operations a second. The PPC chip is extremely optimized to do the same type of operation again and again and to do it very fast. Here's hoping we see some ultra realistic simulations in games. The Project Gotham Racing 3 looks very realistic.

It's not the PPC doing the majority of the FLOPS, or even the shaders in the gfx. It's the hardwired rendering logic in the graphics chip.
 
Nice console.......nice HW as well......no need to say. "this one is better etc."

Well maby we will see the Dual Core PM coming....a Dual Dual Core at about 2.5Ghz :rolleyes: :D and the low end at 2Ghz.......what about an iMac with Single Dual Core CPU at 2Ghz :rolleyes: :D ........if they get them to run real cool ;)
 
some of you are getting your knickers in a twist about this thing, remember the nintendo before the current one? That had silicon graphics chips in it. And no, I dont think anybody yanked the innards out of 50 of them and made the worlds cheapest SGI render farm.

I will say there is no way I would shell out on a top spec mac at the moment, purely because of this thing and also the pS3. I just have a feeling these machines are going to create movement in Apples dev labs.. And in our favour
 
Beck446 said:
I can't believe you actually posted this twice in this thread. That is ridiculous. What's wrong with you?

I think he's just a bit annoyed by all the people who actually believe these are G5's, because they are not. Three of these will roughly equal one 2GHz G5 performance wise. As he said, IBM makes only one processor that goes with those specs, and it roughly equals the first pentium-processors that were made. :rolleyes:

Beck446 said:
And then you post something like this: "I literally laughed out loud at your pathetic excuse at a rebuttal. Do you want me to explain in detail? It might hurt your tiny little brain."

Someone made fun of him, and he answered back. I don't see the big deal. And what he said was far from what you wrote.

Beck446 said:
Get a life bro.

You know nothing about him, so why say this?
 
Poff said:
I think he's just a bit annoyed by all the people who actually believe these are G5's, because they are not. Three of these will roughly equal one 2GHz G5 performance wise.
But... but... try playing Doom 3 on a 2x2.5 Ghz G5 and tell me it doesn't suck.
 
Lacero said:
But... but... try playing Doom 3 on a 2x2.5 Ghz G5 and tell me it doesn't suck.

Hey I'm not saying the 360 will be a bad gaming console, it is powerful and it has the meanest graphics card you can imagine. The processors won't have to handle a big bulky os in the background - further increasing performance. Games will be terrific. But games on a console with three 3,2GHz G5's would be insane!! Had it had three G5's in it, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. It would have been so in front of all the competition it will get in a year. So I'm not saying it's a bad console, I'm just saying that they are not G5's in there.
 
xbox 360 is beat

Xbox 360 is gonna get torched by the Revolution and PS3. crappy specs, regular dvd drive versus next gen (HD DVD Revolution and Blue Ray PS3), and a crappy release time. They are trying to do what Sony did, but when Sony did the earliest release, they were on top of the next gen tech. Xbox 360's release is in the middle of the transfer from DVD to higher capacity disks as well as having a less powerful processor. I believe it will be the next dreamcast :p

At least we know that the dual core Power Macs aren't too far away :)
 
I hope this makes it easier to port more games to Mac. If this is the case this will be great for Apple. Bring on the heavy hitting titles, Half Life 3, UT 2006 etc. :D
 
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