But also shows that you can indeed distribute without using Apple’s app store….despite what certain devs would have you believe.
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Because anyone stating that Apple is a monopoly and prevents access outside of the AppStore is well, a liar. AKA EPIC.
Microsoft just did exactly what EPIC is complaining they CAN NOT DO.
So thank you Microsoft for making it work, and Apple for telling them they could do so in the first place!
It makes perfect sense if you want parental controls and app review to work properly.
We use an old Mac Mini as a media browser with Safari on our TV, works great. We have an Apple TV as well.
Perhaps some legal technicality that they don’t have the rights to let people have access to games for $0 ?
Many subscriptions have you sign up to get access but without actually charging. I’ve had ones make a small charge but instantly reverse it just to check the card is active.
So is Microsoft not putting xCloud on Mac because they do not want "anyone to compete with" gaming on Windows and Surface?
Kind of works both ways.
Apple have already said that they are happy to have streaming games on the App store….they just need to be submitted individually.
Despite what you read from the haters, it’s not about competition at all. Apple want individual app review, App Store discovery and parental controls to work properly. It’s all about user experience. If one game runs foul of Apple’s review, the entire streaming service would have to be pulled. If they are submitted individually, only that game would have to be pulled. If the service was a single app, parental controls would have to apply to every streaming game vs each individual game.
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Not to mention X Box & X Box X…
Umm. Even as a native app when it would be a web frame in a native app. The content is all streamed only instead of Safari it would be a Safari frame in app. Microsoft likely would not have allowed IAP or new user sign-up in app so no difference there either. Apple would never have gotten a cut.
Not saying that I agree or disagree with Apple's position to require each game be a separate native app. I think it was a silly requirement as each app would be nothing more than a web wrapper for a specific title. Other than allowing Apple to block certain types of games (not a gamer so no idea if any Xbox titles would be "out of line"). And that is more in line with how Arcade works - each game is an app. And, yes, I understand the difference between native games and the wrapper app. I'm saying that the look and feel would align on both services - subscription price covers all titles in the server but you have to download each title as separate app.
Only if you have an iPad Pro with USB-C. Otherwise you have to use the lightning to HDMI adapter which is capped at 1080P.
If streaming is the technical motivation to go web browser only in this case what about Netflix sor Spotify streams … heck why not Apple Music or iBooks? Aren’t they little more than wrappers over streams or a small text file? What about Kindle? What about Tinder or FB? The fact is that Apple decision to create bars to these apps/services is not a technical one, nether is driven by security or privacy.
I think it should disappoint any customer if not those who’ve bought their high end devices to than use apps and services in the web browser. Apple pointing devs to use the Web Browser instead of apps its for sure a joke on their customers in my opinion.
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Apple told everyone they could do this, a long long time ago. No one listened.
One of the very few times where the use of this meme is appropriate: You're doing it wrong. There's no need to stream from a console to an iPad. You'd be introducing latency unnecessarily. Stream directly on the iPad and remove the console layer of latency.
It's 100% for this reason. I saw a post somewhere that stated a willingness to enter CC info was ~45% greater if there was a dollar figure involved. If I find the post again, I'll attach it.
xCloud app for your smart tv is already a part of their strategy. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021...ture-streaming-stick-tv-app-series-x-servers/
Compete with?? Tee hee. MS went with iOS, Android, and PC because each of those ecosystems have substantial market share. MacOS, as much as I like it, does not. Especially where gaming is concerned. Moreover, gaming on Mac is woefully underserved and ignored... by Apple. Why would MS even care about gaming on the Mac when Apple doesn't. Luckily, the Mac may end up benefiting by virtue of it's close ties with iOS. Silver lining.
Smart people sign up for the 3 months and then 1 minite kater vancel the subscription and still have the 3 months so you dont forget it in case not like the service..
I’m do not like MS software in general. Still, if you want to be factual, check the number of MS apps supporting Apple devices and check Apple’s. This just throws how that argument does not really go both ways.
Why they don’t have xCloud in an app in macOS … don’t know. But that I guess is question of priorities … it will come.
Cause when you buy something, you should own it and be able to do what you want with it.
Surface is in competition with MacBook. What does the market share look like between those competing products? Apple not caring about gaming is irrelevant. One would think MS would jump at the chance to extend their xCloud service to Mac considering it is browser based and they have already made it work with Safari. But they have not and seems logical to say it isn’t in Microsoft’s interest to add value to their competitors device in the laptop market.
It’s ridiculous to think this has anything to do with Arcade.
They‘ve been blocking this way before Arcade was a thing. No, this is about how any gaming app in the App Store could move into an app like xcloud. Sure, Apple would still potentially get the 30% of subs, but that would be nothing vs current revenue from MTX and purchases
Here’s my question…XBox remote play works well enough on my iPad and also includes the ability to play EA games that I have downloaded. What is the benefit to using the Cloud Gaming Service through the browser? Seems more limtied and more at risk to suffer from latency.
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It isn't a stretch to say that Microsoft will strategically determine where their interests align with the Mac platform and where they do not. Microsoft is making a huge push in the gaming space buying up studios and a major publisher like Bethesda. Software existing on the system currently does not dictate that future services will follow suit. Microsoft can and will pick and choose based on what it in their best interests. But you may be right and they just haven't gotten to Mac yet. I'll be happy to be wrong.