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Arsenikdote
macrumors 6502a
I think people's opinion of what they liked about the platform will, obviously, vary by each person. Whether it was "better" or "worse" after Elon took over is also hard to define, even when looking in aggregate on user's opinions. However, something that is not hard to look at is its value. It tanked and never recovered. It only "recovered" in additional raises of funding, which is utterly false value and was only due to Elon's promises that those investors would end up holding SpaceX stock. X, under Elon, failed to be financially viable regardless of number of staff. Was that inevitable because of the path the company and platform was set on from previously leadership? Maybe. Maybe that is why Elon tried to back out of the deal and it only completed because he was forced to. But Elon certainly accelerated the failure massively and only bailed it out by continuing to merge it into other businesses. Some people feel that the sharp financial decline of twitter correlates to how "good" the platform was to use. Again, that is much harder to argue since so much is down to personal preference and biases. But the correlation can't be ignored even if it doesn't automatically mean causation.
iToddlerChud
macrumors newbie
Ok, been trying out the app for a while and the only good thing I can say about it is that it looks good and has a very clean UI.
Now, it’s very slow for some reason, it lags randomly or freezes (specially in low power mode) and it won’t let me send some picture (because of the format I guess? They show up fine in the gallery tho).
Now, it’s very slow for some reason, it lags randomly or freezes (specially in low power mode) and it won’t let me send some picture (because of the format I guess? They show up fine in the gallery tho).
Sounds like it has the same QC team as the Cybertruck.
Spec360
Suspended
it’s a private company, it cannot tank in value.
Char Aznable
macrumors newbie
Ignore them, then. He’s done a lot of bad things. It’s not “anti-Elon” to be against a bad person.
Are you saying a private company can't have value, or that it can but it can only stay the same or increase?
Craigwilliam
macrumors regular
Not to promote the Xapp but not so sure about about that gold standard …
https://www.politico.eu/article/hackers-attack-phone-of-german-parliament-president-julia-klockner/
andreagrandi
macrumors regular
It's really sad to see a name, once linked to a popular IRC client for Linux, being stolen and used for something else 😕
MacBH928
macrumors G3
Elon is trying to mimic the chinese WeChat app which has everything from social media, messaging, mobile payments and more. He already has live streaming and video exclusives content like WWE Speed. Thats why its called X , it can be anything like in a mathematical formula.
he is not stupid, he bought Twitter for $40 billion to make it much more than a microblogging platform.
he is not stupid, he bought Twitter for $40 billion to make it much more than a microblogging platform.
Nope. Worldwide usage is down 15%, and usage in the U.S. is down 23%.
I'm saying that there is no change in the value of a private company until there is an accepted offer on the table.
jerryjohnson
macrumors member
Another messaging app is easy to launch. Getting people to actually move their conversations there is the hard part.
WarmWinterHat
Suspended
That's incorrect. When it comes to taxes (409a), equity, lines of credit, private investment and more, the value of a private company matters immensely. Elon didn't pay for Twitter, he borrowed from private banks to finance it.
Also, subjective value matters. It's no longer seen as a neutral platform, and X has been quite open about adjusting the algorithms to promote specific ideas and people.
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boswald
macrumors 68030
turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
I miss the days of AOL IM & MSN Messenger.
Such a different and more innocent online time.
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Vanilla2108
macrumors newbie
Elon deliberately open-sourced Tesla patents, to allow competitors to use their technology for free to accelerate the adoption of electric vehicles (EVs). But I guess that doesn’t fit your “Elon bad” narrative ..
turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
The overwhelming majority of Elons track record supports “he’s bad”.
One data point to the contrary is just that… one data point.
WarmWinterHat
Suspended
Tesla still owns the patents, and can change their mind if they wanted. "Open source the patents" isn't a real thing, it's a pledge not take action against others users them. It also encourages other companies to adopt Tesla's infrastructure, so it absolutely helps and promotes Tesla.
It's not a bad thing, but it's also self-serving. If Elon really wanted to open up the patents, they would turn them over to a 3rd party organization. Just because he's done some good things doesn't override the negative.
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turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
We've seen examples of "true freedom of speech" with things like 4chan.
It creates an absolutely toxic cesspool that normal people have shown no interest in.
Fully unregulated "true freedom of speech" simply results in the most odious, noxious and loudest voices and opinions chasing everyone decent away.
It creates an absolutely toxic cesspool that normal people have shown no interest in.
Fully unregulated "true freedom of speech" simply results in the most odious, noxious and loudest voices and opinions chasing everyone decent away.
Arsenikdote
macrumors 6502a
You do not understand the topic in which you are speaking about. You are just simply incorrect. Whether a company is traded on a stock market, which you are seeming to indicate with the use of "private" has nothing to do with whether it has a value. Have you ever heard a phrase similar to "XYZ startup raised $X Million based on a $X evaluation?" When companies begin they are not publicly traded companies and all have value. While if you are getting into some serious weeds, you could argue a business could be in a Schrodinger's cat scenario at different points of it's lifecycle, whether it is private or not does not dictate whether it has value.
Also, I saw your last post...
This is also not true. While many people might FEEL like these numbers are made up or as you said "not reflect anything" that is simply not true. There is a fiduciary duty when entering into a financial transaction with an investor or any other form of loan by which you are bound. This not only includes making proper choices for the company and the people in which you borrowed/took money from, but also to report the current financial standings, typically on a monthly cadence. This report is used to constantly determine the performance of the business and thereby the value of the business (aka the investment of the bank/VC/etc....)
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