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Why is Apple so secretive about RAM? It makes no sense to me. Everyone finds out anyway; they may as well just list it in the specs.

Because they're not into "specs". There are Android smartphones with double that amount of RAM, yet don't run as smoothly. If they announced the RAM at keynotes people would make immediate comparisons when all that matters is how they device performs in the hand, not on a Keynote slide.
 
I am going from a iPhone 6 Plus to a iPhone 6S. Anyone else doing this? Not sure if I will regret it or not. Any reason why I would, other than screen size???
2GB of RAM is great news.

Not really the thread for this, but the only differences spec-wise are the smaller battery, dpi, and lack of optical image speculation. Performance will be better given there are fewer pixels to push.
 
Well thats good.
I would really like an iPad Pro, but if it had anything less than a quad core chip and 4GB RAM I would have probably got a Surface Pro instead.
 
Damn, that might convince me to get it. 4GB with A9X means it would be plenty for me for the next two years, therefore it would be the same as buying iPad Air 3 and iPad 4 with the identical price, with the bonus of a bigger screen and a stylus.
Next 2 years - more probably 5-7 since they are still supporting A5 devices -your purchase is safe :p
 
Well thats good.
I would really like an iPad Pro, but if it had anything less than a quad core chip and 4GB RAM I would have probably got a Surface Pro instead.
Agreed...I bet the Pro will smoke the Surface and most laptops running running now - I am dying to see the geekbench scores for this monster.
 
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And then in two years you'll have a reincarnation of this problem, but with a crowd demanding 4GB for the iPhone 7S as our newly established lineup standard of 2GB just isn't enough and should've been upgraded a long time ago.
 
No it never will. If you're a developer/power user you would know. We rely heavily on using the terminal and being able to have tons of windows open at once. iOS is not suited for all of that. Not to mention it runs on a completely different architecture CPU. ARM processors are far too weak for power users and years and year of development have gone into Mac OS X. They are completely different ballparks. Don't compare apples to oranges.

I'm not saying it's happening now. Or next year. Or even the year after. But eventually it will, whether you or anyone else likes it or not. Fact is, ARM has been leapfrogging the development of the CPUs in terms of power consumption and performance while Intel and X86 has been purposely delaying their CPUs and giving us upgrades that most users won't even notice because Intel is a monopoly and can do what it wants.

And for 90% of people using a computer right now, an iPad Pro will satisfy their needs, and in some regards, even improve their experience. This number is only going to increase, and eventually that number is going to get so small that it will be negligible.
 
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And then in two years you'll have a reincarnation of this problem, but with a crowd demanding 4GB for the iPhone 7S as our newly established lineup standard of 2GB just isn't enough and should've been upgraded a long time ago.

Two years? I'll bet we'll see "Safari tabs still reloading in iPhone 6s/6s Plus" posts within a month or two.
 
Keep in mind, before the "wowz it took soon long" wave comes in, this 2GB of RAM is going outperform many/most of the 3GB+ devices out there. The amount of work they've done in memory compression (acquiring firms like anobit) and tuning the OS to the hardware is just staggering.
I think we've gone thru this already - IOS is more memory efficient than Android

Here is an xcode demonstration -mind you this on an Ipad 1 (256 RAM) - point still stands

2GB on the phone its going to be epic and future proof you for many years - unlikely you will keep the phone for 4-5 years - but you could if you want to.
 
Fact is, ARM has been leapfrogging the development of the CPUs in terms of power consumption and performance while Intel and X86 has been purposely delaying their CPUs and giving us upgrades that most users won't even notice because Intel is a monopoly and can do what it wants.

Sources?
 
I'm not saying it's happening now. Or next year. Or even the year after. But eventually it will, whether you or anyone else likes it or not. Fact is, ARM has been leapfrogging the development of the CPUs in terms of power consumption and performance while Intel and X86 has been purposely delaying their CPUs and giving us upgrades that most users won't even notice because Intel is a monopoly and can do what it wants.

And for 90% of people using a computer right now, an iPad Pro will satisfy their needs, and in some regards, even improve their experience. This number is only going to increase, and eventually that number is going to get so small that it will be negligible.

iOS doesn't even have a file explorer.
 
Why is Apple so secretive about RAM? It makes no sense to me. Everyone finds out anyway; they may as well just list it in the specs.

Because the experience is what matters not specs. The average American has no idea what a gig or RAM even means; we are the minority, the tech savvy. As prior iPhones showed well, a dual core processor and 1GB RAM out benchmarked quad/six/eight core 2-3-4GB RAM Android devices. Specs only mean so much.
 
2GB on the phone its going to be epic and future proof you for many years - unlikely you will keep the phone for 4-5 years - but you could if you want to.

Future proof? Nope. RAM will probably need another bump by iPhone 7+.

iOS gets bigger, the apps get bigger, the hardware gets more potent and demanding.

You don't think all those new gestures, menus, shortcuts and touch pressure recognition don't take up more space?
 

Just look at the increases in power each ARM processor receives per year, then look at how incredibly little Intel's new processors have increased since the introduction of Sandy Bridge in 2011.

iOS doesn't even have a file explorer.

File explorers for locally-held files are going to be a thing of the past. Cloud is the future. Not now. Not tomorrow. Not next year. But within the next decade.
 
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Maybe this'll mitigate the whining for a while.

It's this perspective that allowed Apple to keep the devices at 1GB this long in the first place. Turning valid concerns about performance issues down into "whining" only justifies the greed from large corporations, instead of applying any actual pressure for change from consumers.

I'm still mad my 6+ glitches and stutters, can't handle transparency (doesn't stutter if you shut it off). I would have waited for the 7.
 
I know, but at this development speed ,Apple will have an arm based desktop/laptop soc that will surpass Intel based desktop and laptops cpu' s (about 180?? % increase from A7 to a9x). This a9x already dishes current Intel M cpu' s.
In 2 years the current 12 inch MacBook will be arm based, with arm based OSX.
The current iPad pro will pave the way to develop the apps for it.
And further develop of the smart connector, will enable Apple to develop powerful hybrids.

It won' t be able to compete with workstation cpu' s in 2 years, but in 6 years it will.
X-86 for consumers is dying.

Agree with all of this. Just can't see x-86 lasting much beyond 2020.
 
And the reason they don't give us the specs for the RAM is simple, they don't update it often enough. Every event they like to advertise a new chip, or something being twice as fast as before.

What would happen if they announced 1GB, 1GB, 1GB, 1GB, 1GB, 1GB in 6 consecutive conferences? Nothing positive...
 
now the market will be flooded w vanilla 6's lol

I'm happy that they finally put enough ram yeah!!!
 
They are trying to avoid the spec wars that PC have been in for a decade. That's my guess anyway.

Why is Apple so secretive about RAM? It makes no sense to me. Everyone finds out anyway; they may as well just list it in the specs.
 
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