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File explorers for locally-held files are going to be a thing of the past. Cloud is the future. Not now. Not tomorrow. Not next year. But within the next decade.

Lol what?

It doesn't matter if it's in the Cloud or locally stored you need a file Explorer to properly navigate saved content.

Clue? Ever see the OSX finder integration with Dropbox and Google Drive?
 
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That wasn't an excuse for laptops vs desktops. Phones are pocketable computers just as laptops after lapable computers.
As an idea and as technical implementations, they are. As to how society perceives them they are in different categories.
 
Your computer is then a piece of c**p. No offense.
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Exactly, the average consumer/computer user simply doesn't understand the difference between RAM and hard drive space (I deal with them every day). ]
Plenty of people here don't seem to either. I cringe every time I see the word "memory" in reference to storage space.
 
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Well there it is. Honestly if the current 6 Plus didn't refresh and stutter so much then I would keep it and not get the 6A Plus. This additional RAM will be welcome.
 
Why is Apple so secretive about RAM? It makes no sense to me. Everyone finds out anyway; they may as well just list it in the specs.

If I had to guess, it's probably so that prospective buyers don't make spurious comparisons to other brands having more RAM. I can totally see my mom open an Apple store page, a Samsung page, and then go, "well the Samsung phone is obviously better, it has twice as much of that RAM thingy!"

My (perhaps unpopular) opinion is that RAM is a completely irrelevant metric for most consumers in the market for a smartphone. The most useful 'performance' metrics are the time taken to open and use your favorite apps, and the capacity to multitask. Obviously both of these metrics depend directly on RAM, but the relationship is so dependent on environmental variables-- the particular hardware used, resource allocation decisions of the OS, apps already on your phone--- that it is an effectively meaningless exercise to compare the numerical value of RAM across phones. It's like comparing a prius to a tractor on the basis of horsepower torque and then concluding that everyone should be driving a tractor :rolleyes:
 
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damn it, 2gb isn't enough! we need 3gb of ram on the iphone or there's simply no point buying one. biggest fail of the year. /s
This is why Apple doesn't announce the RAM... Because people don't realize that with iOS's efficient memory management, it is enough.
 
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The iPad Pro is just one more step towards iOS replacing Mac OS X.

Maybe for consumer-oriented behaviours. As a software developer, I'm not sure I'd be half as productive on an iPad. The Apple Smart Keyboard doesn't even have an Esc key... how could they have overlooked that important productivity detail?
 
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Why is Apple so secretive about RAM? It makes no sense to me. Everyone finds out anyway; they may as well just list it in the specs.

Because they don't want to be putting specs ahead of capabilities. iOS does not need as much RAM as Android devices in order to do the same thing. So the RAM is not really important as long as the overall system works as designed.
 
If that's the case then why list DRAM for Macbooks and Macs?

You can't compare desktop to mobile, different ball park and treated entirely different.

Specs have been compared between desktop/notebook systems for two decades, way back to the Intel v AMD days in the 90's.

I think you knew fine well what I meant, that when it comes to mobile Apple have never made a big deal of specs, especially RAM and processor speeds.

It's all about the fact they make the hardware and software and its that collaboration of the two that's allows iOS to match or outperform rival mobile platforms despite having "inferior specs".
 
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If I had to guess, it's probably so that prospective buyers don't make spurious comparisons to other brands having more RAM. I can totally see my mom open an Apple store page, a Samsung page, and then go, "well the Samsung phone is obviously better, it has twice as much of that RAM thingy!"

My (perhaps unpopular) opinion is that RAM is a completely irrelevant metric for most consumers in the market for a smartphone. The most useful 'performance' metrics are the time taken to open and use your favorite apps, and the capacity to multitask. Obviously both of these metrics depend directly on RAM, but the relationship is so dependent on environmental variables-- the particular hardware used, resource allocation decisions of the OS, apps already on your phone--- that it is an effectively meaningless exercise to compare the numerical value of RAM across phones. It's like comparing a prius to a tractor on the basis of horsepower and then concluding that everyone should be driving a tractor :rolleyes:
Well said!

My guess is that Apple upped the RAM solely to shutup the incessant whining.
 
This is why Apple doesn't announce the RAM... Because people don't realize that with iOS's efficient memory management, it is enough.

False. iOS has gotten away with low DRAM because it doesn't background multitask like desktop, laptop, Android, any modern OS, etc. While the average joe probably doesn't need it but if you're in IT and need to run tools with interactive sessions like SSH, RDP, etc. they'll get killed in the background on iOS after 3 minutes.

http://www.speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/misconceptions-about-ios-multitasking.html
 
Actually the Prius probably has more HP than many (most?) tractors. The tractor needs TORQUE to do it's thing NOT horsepower. You just mixed those up like many people mix up RAM and disk space!

:)

Haha I'll edit it lest my entire point be dismissed on the basis of a small mistake at the end. This is the internet after all :p
 
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Maybe for consumer-oriented behaviours. As a software developer, I'm not sure I'd be half as productive on an iPad. The Apple Smart Keyboard doesn't even have an Esc key... how could they have overlooked that important productivity detail?

I don't even remember the last time I have ever needed or used the Esc key under OS X. What programs need an Esc key in iOS?
 
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Keep in mind, before the "wowz it took soon long" wave comes in, this 2GB of RAM is going outperform many/most of the 3GB+ devices out there. The amount of work they've done in memory compression (acquiring firms like anobit) and tuning the OS to the hardware is just staggering.
This is so damn true. Considering that 1 GB of RAM already does the job pretty well compared to most Android phones with at least 3 GB RAM, 2 GB will make that amount look like ****!

I am looking forward to the comparison tests! :)


Anyway, I am thrilled to see Apple going to 2 GB RAM. Never thought I was missing something, but do have to say that the upgrade will make iOS even more efficient in running apps in the background and all. I think it's good of Apple that they've doubled memory.

By the way, I am still hoping for a tri-core processor like in the iPad Air 2. Any news on that? Dual-core still does very fine (especially since Apple claims it's 70% faster in CPU tasks), but an extra core would be something interesting to see. :p
 
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