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Xiaomi Unveils Mi 8 Smartphone With iPhone X-Like Notch Design, Vertical Dual-Lens Camera System, and Animated Emoji Features

ani4ani said:
Well yes and no....They both built on others work. The idea that these companies can sell cheap because they spend nothing on R&D is just plain silly. That was my point. If R&D was the delta (which clearly it isn’t), then that would explain about $25 of it, not $500
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Yea I get that. It probably does make a bit of a difference since they don't need to develop the ideas or anything, they just need to replicate them. I am sure there are still significant costs to implementation though.
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NIKKG said:
All these tech companies have CIA/NSA backdoors to access all your info. Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook and so on all gather your info and give it to government. If you think Apple is somehow any different, than your just naive.
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Well I'd like to see your evidence of this before I agree. Not just a random article. But yes, I have said that no company is perfect when it comes to privacy, but I trust Apple more than the others because that's not where they make their money and their reputation is built on it - I don't think they are that dumb and would take that chance. Google and Xiaomi though? Google's entire business is built on user data and advertising - this is fact, not just an assumption (90% of their revenue is advertising). With Xiaomi - sure, let's trust the Chinese knockoff company who has a blatant privacy policy where they clearly state they have the right to collect everything about you (personal info, bank info, work info). Trust who you want, I don't particularly care, but I know who I trust.
 
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dannys1 said:
That's not the reason though - all the notch phones have a bottom chin. One of the manufacturers explained why it's so hard to do what Apple does (and expensive) but I can't remember which one.
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Oh, I'm not arguing whether or not it's expensive. I'm just saying your claim of Apple being the only one to go bezel less is wrong. They aren't. Now if you want to caveat a difference by saying Apple went bezel less on the bottom while others went bezel less on the top... you could do that, but not sure why anyone would.
 
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dannys1 said:
That's not the reason though - all the notch phones have a bottom chin. One of the manufacturers explained why it's so hard to do what Apple does (and expensive) but I can't remember which one.
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To be fair i'm not sure I put much weight in conspiracy theories from someone who doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
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Didn't know this was an English class. I should ask my university to refund my two masters degrees.
 
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Viking2 said:
9. Android is great if you fancy viruses and malware and segmented OS
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Cute that apple users still use that argument.

In my 8 odd years with android I've yet to catch a virus.

The reason you're getting a virus is not the operating system - it's you.

You must be one of those users that click on that banner that says "youre the 100000th visitor - click here to claim your price!"
 
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ikir said:
Which is inferior to iPhone 8 CPU and GPU, as the support, ecosystem, App Store, materials, integration, security and go on.
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Exactly! These are huge trade offs and ones I would never contemplate.
 
Achillias said:
Actually you are wrong, the face-ID technology Xiaomi are using is different from the one Apple uses. Also the under display fingerprintscanner is something totally new which isn't being used by Apple.
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Why may I ask would you need a facial scanner AND a fingerprint sensor? Just because they can I guess.
 
Achillias said:
In day to day use (speedtest) you won't even notice it. Yet you've to pay more than $500 dollars for a milisecond of difference.
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There are 3 versions of the Mi 8.
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You’re getting far more than cpu speed differences for that $500 with the Apple product.
 
ROGmaster said:
You have very little imagination.
The Mi 8 is simply a great all around phone for a very good price.
You don't have to jump any ship or anything, most people will consider this phone based on it's merits: great build quality, material, great specs, modem performance, gps performance, great camera and so on. It's obvious you can't see the forest for the trees if you call the Mi 8 a Chinese knock off.

Also the notch on Android phones ca be easily hidden which is at least an acceptable solution for people that don't like it.
With Apple you don't have this choice.
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I imagine the biggest reason for jumping ship for this phone would be the awesome customer service. Hahahahaha
 
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ROGmaster said:
What are you talking about?
This is getting ridiculous. What stolen goods? Ar you talking about the notch(not an Apple original concept anyway) and the vertical camera placement? because that is about it when it come to similarities.
I would be glad to see Apple trying to sue Xiaomi in Europe for the Mi 8 just to see this ridiculous vendetta about it being a knockoff put to rest. But Apple won't do it because they know they don't have a case.
And the Mi 8 will be officially available in Europe.
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Did you not read his post or are you being intentionally dense? Claiming this isn’t a blatant X ripoff aesthetically is just being disingenuous. Apple won’t sue because it would cost more to do so than they will lose in sales because this phone won’t sell anywhere near that cost.
 
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CoolSpot said:
Its the Apple two-step.

1. Apple releases something (could be any feature, doesn't need to be useful or helpful).
2. Feature becomes critical point of contention for any device that follows.


I doesn't really matter that every iphone has a larger bezel at the top and bottom. The iPhone X has a small bezel and now everything else is obsolete.
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Yeah! It certainly does seem that way. I really like the design of the iPhone X but I still have a 6S. I don’t know how anyone coped with these bezels for 10 years... :eek: They are offensively big. Apple should be ashamed for making us put up with them ;)
 
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thering1975 said:
I find it interesting that a fair few people here are stating that "android" are rushing to copy "apples" notch design, yet it appeared on an android device first.

The essential phone by Andy rubin was released in August 2017 and the iphone x in November 2017, so in that case are Apple the ones who copied or does that not count for some spurious reason? ( i appreciate that phone designs are worked on years in advance but point stands for both companies)

Yes the size of the notch is different but the principal is the same

Now dont get me wrong Apples implementation serves a better use overall and is better designed both look wise and in function, but come on they were not the first to market, they just made it more mainstream and "popular".

However on topic, the Mi8 is most definitely the best rip off yet, yet Apple would never sue as it would not serve their interest as the chinese government will always support there own nations company and could make it very difficult for Apple to operate within the country
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Expect Apple filed for the notch patent back in 2016 when no one even heard about the Rubins essential phone company or the handset.

By Feb- March 2017 there were plenty of iPhone X leaks showing the notch cutout again way before the essential phone launch in June of 2017.

Seriously though comparing the essentials pimple with iPhone Xs notch is asinine.

Claiming the essential’s pimple inspired the iPhone X’s notch is delusional, and those that are are simply grasping at straws.

Btw Apple was granted the patents relating to the iPhone X designs including the notch in both America and China.
 
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69Mustang said:
Oh, I'm not arguing whether or not it's expensive. I'm just saying your claim of Apple being the only one to go bezel less is wrong. They aren't. Now if you want to caveat a difference by saying Apple went bezel less on the bottom while others went bezel less on the top... you could do that, but not sure why anyone would.
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It was clear what I said - the iPhone X is the only phone not to have a chin.

And no, no phone has neither a chin nor a notch (where would the cameras go??) Samsung's latest phone has both - every other notch phone also has a chin.
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NIKKG said:
Didn't know this was an English class. I should ask my university to refund my two masters degrees.
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Masters degrees? I think you should be suing your primary school to be honest, this is the sort of stuff they taught you at age 8.
 
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It may as well be called the MiPhone X.
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CoolSpot said:
The iPhone X has a small bezel and now everything else is obsolete.
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Consumerism. Deliberately designed to make you unhappy with what you already have. The arrow of products only goes one way and 99% of products purchased are not in the home after 6 months. See the video The Story Of Stuff.
 
Wasn’t this the company that was caught installing bad juju on their phones on behalf of the Chinese government? If you have to buy android, go Samsung or something. Yikes.
 
Toutou said:
The Galaxy Note line is a line of pen-enabled phablets by Samsung. Some Xiaomi phones are called Note too, and they're larger versions of their non-Note brothers from the Mi (more expensive) and Redmi (budget) lines. They have literally nothing in common with Samsung's Note devices, yet you're for some reason claiming a "Xiaomi Note" device (that doesn't even exist) is a copy of Samsung Note (that doesn't exist either).

Why?
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You mean the company that Apple famously got their best ideas from? Yeah. How ironic we're all bashing Xiaomi now for "copying" an Apple device.
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You seem to prize being a smart ass over making a real point. If you knew anything about computer history you’d know that Jobs was invited into Xerox Parc and that those ideas were languishing in an environment that could not capably bring them to the world. Apple absolutely borrowed concepts from Xerox, but they did not in any way, shape, or form directly copy the design or look & feel of any Xerox products, nor did they attempt in any way to confuse the public or leverage the public’s love of a more well established brand to boost their own.

So what you wrote is pretty feckless. There is zero comparison between Apple innovating a way to bring a game-changing form of computing to the world and Chinese patent infringers trying to make a quick dime off another company’s hard-earned design reputation.
 
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