Xiaomi Unveils Mi 8 Smartphone With iPhone X-Like Notch Design, Vertical Dual-Lens Camera System, and Animated Emoji Features

[thering1975]

I find it interesting that a fair few people here are stating that "android" are rushing to copy "apples" notch design, yet it appeared on an android device first.

The essential phone by Andy rubin was released in August 2017 and the iphone x in November 2017, so in that case are Apple the ones who copied or does that not count for some spurious reason? ( i appreciate that phone designs are worked on years in advance but point stands for both companies)

Yes the size of the notch is different but the principal is the same

Now dont get me wrong Apples implementation serves a better use overall and is better designed both look wise and in function, but come on they were not the first to market, they just made it more mainstream and "popular".

However on topic, the Mi8 is most definitely the best rip off yet, yet Apple would never sue as it would not serve their interest as the chinese government will always support there own nations company and could make it very difficult for Apple to operate within the country

 

[rafark]

Is this Macrumors or Androidrumors?

It's printerRumors it seems...

 

[Ramchi]

Yea I don't get it. People act like the way Apple does things or the way this phone looks was basically inevitable. Kinda wild.
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Their privacy policy is pretty crazy to me. I am not sure how people can just say OK to this and be happy with the product just because it's cheap. You are paying them with your data.

Absolutely, carrying an Android mobile one needs to be law abiding citizen! Knowing its pitfalls is a good thing and you won't get into troubles thinking it is a solid secured device. So by definition most people expected to limit their exposure in doing risky stuffs using Android mobiles.

Just imagine if you are made to believe that the device is completely secured and if the person use the device for all sort of activities later if someone cracks the security, it would be an awkward situation isn't?

 

[TheShadowKnows!]

Yeah, you are telling US to relax, yet felt compelled to publish this crud. Get over yourself.

I have nothing to "get over myself". Just pointing out that it looks like good value for money. (But not for me due to iOS.)

And that in an anonymous market test, this hardware would get thumbs up by many in here, if they thought is was a new iPhone release. Sorry.

 

[dannys1]

Lets not pretend that apple couldn't sell the iphone X for $800-850 though and still make huge profits even accounting for R&D. When you sell as many phones as apple does, R&D ends up being an absolute miniscule cost of the phone.

Having said that I don't blame them for selling it at $1000 if people will still buy it at that price

To be fair though there's obviously a much more detailed level of engineering into the iPhone X in terms of quality and no one else has that bottom bezel removed, not even Samsung. One of the Android suppliers said that is very very expensive to do (I don't understand why, but that's what they said) to curve the bottom electronics around which is why all the Android phones have chins at the bottom, just like this iPhone X rip off which copies everything apart from the hard bits (which of course means every other corner inside will have been cut too)

 

[chagla]

I get that imitation is a form of flattery, but man.

If Apple sued Samsung over copying the original iPhone's likeness, surely they'll sue over this. Except for that slight bottom bezel, I'd be hard pressed to tell the different at first glance.

Not sure if you know, Apple didn't win their case against Samsung anywhere else except USA. In the UK they actually had to swallow their pride and include in their ads saying Samsung did NOT copy Apple.

anyways, shameless copying on Xiaomis part. How do they get from Mix2 to this?

https://www.mi.com/en/mix2/

strange.

 

[DNichter]

Absolutely, carrying an Android mobile one needs to be law abiding citizen! Knowing its pitfalls is a good thing and you won't get into troubles thinking it is a solid secured device. So by definition most people expected to limit their exposure in doing risky stuffs using Android mobiles.

Just imagine if you are made to believe that the device is completely secured and if the person use the device for all sort of activities later if someone cracks the security, it would be an awkward situation isn't?

I'm lost

 

[sansin]

iPhone X - iaomi edition

 

[jdclifford]

Fake news!

Apple Losing Ground to Android Competitors in India and China ...

 

[44267547]

In the Smart phone industry, the iPhone is so dominant, I think they are a trendsetter and you have these Chinese smart phone companies that want to mimic the iPhone given the success of the iPhone and its accomplishments. It’s usually when Apple makes the bigger changes with their phones that they are mocked for, then months later it seems you have other smart phone companies that seem to implement something very similar to what the iPhone has. Rather ironic.

 

[69Mustang]

To be fair though there's obviously a much more detailed level of engineering into the iPhone X in terms of quality and no one else has that bottom bezel removed, not even Samsung.

That's because they have the top bezel removed. Xiaomi's own Mi Mix 2.* Sharp did bezel less top years ago with their Aquos Crystal. Where Apple put their components in a notch at the top, others put their components (including the camera module) at the bottom.

Personally, I think the symmetry of equal sized bezels looks better. Even the enormous bezels on standard iPhones look better to me. Probably because I am a little OCD about symmetry.

*in an ironic twist, Xiaomi's Mi Mix was copied by several generic Chinese vendors.

 

[forerunnerg34]

Multiple thoughts here:

1. This copy of Apple design looks actually good, I think is best copy so far.
2. Doesn't look like a cheap copy.
3. Android is actually great, I think is better than iOS except for the animations (which is a big UX difference)
4. For people calling the bottom a huge bezel, they will be speechless if they ever see an iPhone before the iPhone X.
5. I don't like the notch because it is annoying when watching movies and viewing photos, however I will accept it eventually because now is everywhere.
6. The notch is easy to copy, just remove the sides. however the bottom bezel is another story, Apple folded the screen to be able to put the display controller behind it, this part is invisible but I think is the most awesome hardware design feat of the iPhone X, others can´t copy this yet because it is very difficult and expensive?.
7. I don´t care about Face ID or any other face recognition technology, I just don´t like the idea if having to directly see my phone to unlock it, or the phone unlocking every time somebody points it to me.
8. I would prefer copies of iPhone X running Android than the original iPhones, Android is much more capable and faster than iOS; once you try notifications on Android you don´t want to go back to iOS notifications; other manufactures give options to unlock the phone; regardless of features copied from iOS being just bad, the features that are not copies are actually good.

 

[69Mustang]

In the Smart phone industry, the iPhone is so dominant, I think they are a trendsetter and you have these Chinese smart phone companies that want to mimic the iPhone given the success of the iPhone and its accomplishments. It’s usually when Apple makes the bigger changes with their phones that they are mocked for, then months later it seems you have other smart phone companies that seem to implement something very similar to what the iPhone has. Rather ironic.

They are going to copy whatever's popular. iPhone old design copied. iPhone new design copied. Samsung edge design copied. Samsung double edge design copied. Samsung Note design copied. Heck there are even smaller Chinese companies copying Xiaomi, Huawei, and Oppo/Vivo designs. If it's popular in China, it's going to be copied. It's not just Apple. We just hear about Apple being copied because we're Apple-centric in the US.

 

[macmanmass]

So did they copy off of Samsung or Apple, or perhaps both!

 

[ani4ani]

When you don't have to spend a dollar on r&d you can afford these things....

Just like the benefit Apple had when they joined the smartphone business 10 years ago, building on the $billions spent by others creatiing 25 years of mobile IP

 

[slimtastic]

That just makes it all the more curious that you think litigation stands a chance this late in the game. Apple has probably applied the calculus that trying to sue Chinese imitators is a waste of time, money, and other resources since Xiaomi isn't the only Chinese OEM that copies designs. Selling in the US? They'd get sued. Selling in their home market? Yawn.

I definitely see what you mean, but Apple has a bottomless set of legal funds so hey, who knows. Guess we shall see.

 

[DNichter]

Just like the benefit Apple had when they joined the smartphone business 10 years ago, building on the $billions spent by others creatiing 25 years of mobile IP

Haha this just gets better and better. You're saying that what Apple did in creating the iPhone is comparable to what Xiaomi is doing with this phone. Come on man.

 

[Wowereit]

This is also the first Android smartphone to use Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 845 chipset, which features on-device AI processing and a Gigabit LTE X20 modem.

Ehm, it's the tenth or so, but whatever...

 

[Toutou]

Xiaomi also has a copy of the Samsung Note called... the Xiaomi Note.

The Galaxy Note line is a line of pen-enabled phablets by Samsung. Some Xiaomi phones are called Note too, and they're larger versions of their non-Note brothers from the Mi (more expensive) and Redmi (budget) lines. They have literally nothing in common with Samsung's Note devices, yet you're for some reason claiming a "Xiaomi Note" device (that doesn't even exist) is a copy of Samsung Note (that doesn't exist either).

Why?
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What a pathetic scourge Xiaomi is. When copying is your core value, you know you are ethically bankrupt. They should just come clean and change their name to Xerox.

You mean the company that Apple famously got their best ideas from? Yeah. How ironic we're all bashing Xiaomi now for "copying" an Apple device.

 

[69Mustang]

The Galaxy Note line is a line of pen-enabled phablets by Samsung. Some Xiaomi phones are called Note too, and they're larger versions of their non-Note brothers from the Mi (more expensive) and Redmi (budget) lines. They have literally nothing in common with Samsung's Note devices, yet you're for some reason claiming a "Xiaomi Note" device (that doesn't even exist) is a copy of Samsung Note (that doesn't exist either).

Sweet Jeebus dude. I'm a pedantic a-hol and even I think this is a bit over the top. Pretty sure everyone and their mother realizes Samsung Note, Galaxy Note, or Samsung Galaxy Note refer to the same phone. The context is pretty clear. Same goes for the Xiaomi Note, Redmi Note, or Xiaomi Redmi Note 5... which coincidentally (not really a coincidence) looks like a Note of the Galaxy family by Samsung. 'Cept when you turn it over, it's reminiscent of a dual camera iPhone. Copying doesn't require detail for detail duplication for it to be considered copying. Use of the Note name alone is intentional association with phone from Samsung branded as the Note in the division S of the product category called Galaxy

 

[kdarling]

Just like the benefit Apple had when they joined the smartphone business 10 years ago, building on the $billions spent by others creatiing 25 years of mobile IP

Haha this just gets better and better. You're saying that what Apple did in creating the iPhone is comparable to what Xiaomi is doing with this phone. Come on man.

Gosh, you're right. Xiaomi copying the external iPhone look is nothing compared to the technology that Apple used from previous smartphones

Without all the handhelds and smartphones that had preceded it since the early 90s, the iPhone could never have existed. Among other things, it took advantage of:

• A massive worldwide voice / data network and chips to access that network.
• A massive worldwide primed market of cell and smartphone users.
• A common list of basic smartphone apps that people had come to expect by then.
• Mass smartphone assemblers like Foxconn.
• Even the well known candy bar phone shape.

Then there's all the prior touchscreen ideas worked out by many researchers over decades, from flick scrolling to multi-touch. Most of the iPhone was a copy of prior art, including the implementation of an all-touch UI.

Heck, even the fallback ability of the first GPS-less iPhone to get its location from towers and WiFi networks came from data compiled by the millions of GPS equipped smartphones that preceded it.

So yeah, he's right... Apple benefited hugely from the billions of dollars and years of R&D that others had done before.

 

[CoolSpot]

On what planet is that a huge bezel?

Its the Apple two-step.

1. Apple releases something (could be any feature, doesn't need to be useful or helpful).
2. Feature becomes critical point of contention for any device that follows.


I doesn't really matter that every iphone has a larger bezel at the top and bottom. The iPhone X has a small bezel and now everything else is obsolete.

 

[Viking2]

Multiple thoughts here:

1. This copy of Apple design looks actually good, I think is best copy so far.
2. Doesn't look like a cheap copy.
3. Android is actually great, I think is better than iOS except for the animations (which is a big UX difference)
4. For people calling the bottom a huge bezel, they will be speechless if they ever see an iPhone before the iPhone X.
5. I don't like the notch because it is annoying when watching movies and viewing photos, however I will accept it eventually because now is everywhere.
6. The notch is easy to copy, just remove the sides. however the bottom bezel is another story, Apple folded the screen to be able to put the display controller behind it, this part is invisible but I think is the most awesome hardware design feat of the iPhone X, others can´t copy this yet because it is very difficult and expensive?.
7. I don´t care about Face ID or any other face recognition technology, I just don´t like the idea if having to directly see my phone to unlock it, or the phone unlocking every time somebody points it to me.
8. I would prefer copies of iPhone X running Android than the original iPhones, Android is much more capable and faster than iOS; once you try notifications on Android you don´t want to go back to iOS notifications; other manufactures give options to unlock the phone; regardless of features copied from iOS being just bad, the features that are not copies are actually good.

9. Android is great if you fancy viruses and malware and segmented OS

 

[Toutou]

Android is great if you fancy viruses and malware

The Android malware situation is essentially the same as the macOS malware situation. There have been some attacks but you pretty much have to ignore the device's whining, install a dodgy app and give it the necessary permissions (!), i.e. be totally careless.
Other than that, both OSes are very safe.

 

[forerunnerg34]

9. Android is great if you fancy viruses and malware and segmented OS

I have hear a lot of that however I haven't had issues so far, but I agree, there must be a lot for malware and viruses targeting Android and virus developers may suffer the effects of fragmentation also