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What is Xiaomi?

How can anyone believe a chamfered edge is protected by a patent? I guess maybe I need to stop chamfering my wood furniture.

LOL, yeah, the whole chamfered edge, rounded corners, etc. is pure nonsense. Nobody owns the design. Apple, and apple fans, need to get over themselves.
 
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I'm confused why you are spending time here. Apple never invented multitouch and never claimed to, but they did bring it mainstream in a way that no other competitor had yet.. They did not invent round corners and that was never the claim, but it was a defining aspect of their already-mainstream products that competitors since copied. They never invented the Home button, but they did just have ONE button at the bottom of the phone whereas competitors typically had three buttons. This separated the iPhone from the rest and since it was a design element, Apple could defend it. The MacBook Air was the first mainstream laptop with the design characteristics that were since copied by competitors. So.. what is your argument again?
I have to laugh when people say the MacBook Air was a copy of Sony laptops. Yeah because these laptops look so much alike...and you'd totally mistake one for the other.

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The Chinese are great at copying other people's technologies and they're great at mass-producing products designed elsewhere. When it comes to innovation they drop completely off the radar screen, and as long as this remains true China poses no real economic threat to the US. It would be interesting to know why. Here are two possible theories, one political and one cultural. The political one is that innovators tend to be free thinkers, and the sort of Chinese citizen who might be capable of being a genuine innovator might strike the authorities as being a little too likely to be some sort of political radical and treat him accordingly. To the outside observer, Jobs, Gates and a lot of the other members of their cohort must have had an uncomfortably hippie look, and a culture intolerant of hippies wouldn't have tolerated them. The second is cultural. Innovation involves some degree of dissatisfaction with, or criticism of, the established way of doing things. Often this plays out on a generational level, so that young folks are dissatisfied with or critical of the ways of their elders. In the context of Chinese culture this may be read as an unacceptable degree of disrespect.

Other nations of course have their own innovation-killing features. In Western Europe and the UK, for example, the way the tax codes are written deprives successful innovation of any substantial reward. And in Japan the domination of established mega-corporations probably makes it outrageously difficult to found a startup (and Microsoft has taught us all that innovation gets stifled within a mega-corporation since, as we all know, a camel is a horse designed by a committee).
 
I stand corrected.

Anyway, doesn't matter, Steve Jobs' intentions are clear, he wanted the world to see that they somehow invented multitouch, he skirted around and now everyone believes that apple did in fact invent multitouch when we know they didnt.

Yep... Steve should have said "we've come up with a new implementation of the 1980's invention of multi-touch."

Oh well... we've got people like you to set the record straight!
 
If you want to copy Apple then fine, copy Apple, but don't turn around and say that you're not copying Apple when even a blind person can tell you are.

Just look at the body language in that video. He's squirming because he knows he is lying through his teeth. It literally couldn't be more obvious.

People tend to blink more when they lie. I count 63 blinks in that 2:35 video, and the camera was only on his face half the time.
 
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There's nothing being stolen here unfortunately. Yes, the designs are similar. But you are not being forced NOT to buy Apple's product.

So why does it matter if you still get to have your iPhone?
Using someone else's designs doesn't have any relationship to being or not being forced to buy any particular product--completely separate and unrelated items. As for why it matters, it might not really matter to us directly, but it likely matters to people who put in a lot of their time and effort and essentially life into something that is then basically copied and more or less taken advantage of.
If you want to copy Apple then fine, copy Apple, but don't turn around and say that you're not copying Apple when even a blind person can tell you are.

Just look at the body language in that video. He's squirming because he knows he is lying through his teeth. It literally couldn't be more obvious.
And there's certainly that too.
 
Steve Jobs: "Good artists copy, great artists steal"

Let's quote some artists instead of Steve Jobs:

Igor Stravinsky said to me of his Three Songs by William Shakespeare, in which he epitomized his discovery of Webern’s music: “A good composer does not imitate; he steals.”

There is probably more truth than we care to admit in William Faulkner’s observation that, “immature artists copy, great artists steal.” Knowing what and when to steal is very much a part of the designer’s self-education.

The meaning of this quote lies just a tiny bit deeper. Too deep for some, unfortunately. The artists who "steals" takes someone else's work, transforms it and makes it his own. That's what great artists always have done. Listen to Prokofiev's "Classical Symphony" to hear "stealing" at it's finest.
 
LOL, yes he was.

And Xiaomi isn't going to sell phones in USA because Apple is known to sue even over frivolous crap like rounded corners.

Yes, the phones are similar... but so are Apple's to other phones. They don't own the industry.

I don't think either Steve Jobs or Pablo Picasso advocated stealing intellectual property.

The "rounded corners" was hyperbole from Samsung's attorneys. They lost the case. Samsung has patented "rectangles with rounded corners" too, as has every car company. Read up on design patents. Words don't adequately describe a patented design, so descriptions are generic.

Xiaomi is a copycat, plain and simple. They don't steal just from Apple. They have copied Samsung, too.
 
I'm confused why you are spending time here. Apple never invented multitouch and never claimed to, but they did bring it mainstream in a way that no other competitor had yet.. They did not invent round corners and that was never the claim, but it was a defining aspect of their already-mainstream products that competitors since copied. They never invented the Home button, but they did just have ONE button at the bottom of the phone whereas competitors typically had three buttons. This separated the iPhone from the rest and since it was a design element, Apple could defend it. The MacBook Air was the first mainstream laptop with the design characteristics that were since copied by competitors. So.. what is your argument again?

Actually... Bill Atkinson invented a method for drawing overlapping windows with rounded corners, and Apple patented it. Before MacOS X, the screen of a Macintosh had rounded corners.
 
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Let's quote some artists instead of Steve Jobs:





The meaning of this quote lies just a tiny bit deeper. Too deep for some, unfortunately. The artists who "steals" takes someone else's work, transforms it and makes it his own. That's what great artists always have done. Listen to Prokofiev's "Classical Symphony" to hear "stealing" at it's finest.

Exactly. By this definition, Xiaomi isn't "stealing" artistically. At best they are merely copying.
 
LOL, yes he was.

And Xiaomi isn't going to sell phones in USA because Apple is known to sue even over frivolous crap like rounded corners.

Yes, the phones are similar... but so are Apple's to other phones. They don't own the industry.
Why don't we go out and take some colored sugar water, put it in a red aluminum can with a white wavy line running through it and sell it as Koka Kola? Does Coca Cola really think they own the rights to colored sugar water and red aluminum cans?
 
Even single design elements?

So if I create my own kickstarter campaign with a phone with rounded corners, am I somehow copying Apple? Am I violating a patent that says 'the invention of rounded corners belongs to apple. only they may make phones with such a feature'

You have to recognize how ridiculous such a law would be.

You might be copying Samsung. Like Apple, Samsung has design patents for phones with rounded corners. Unlike Apple which has design patents for phones that look like iPhones, Samsung has design patents for phones that look like Galaxy phones.

Of course you would need to understand the difference between a utility patent and a design patent to appreciate this. Or maybe you do, but it doesn't fit in with your rhetoric.
 
I have to laugh when people say the MacBook Air was a copy of Sony laptops. Yeah because these laptops look so much alike...and you'd totally mistake one for the other.

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They clearly copied the wedge shape on the bottom, but nothing else. I remember those Sony laptops, really cool machines. Shame Sony have left the computer world now as for PC's they looked cool I thought.

I hate lazy designs, Xiaomi are VERY lazy. Nokia have also been lazy with it's N1 tablet IMO:



And the iPad Mini:

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