I can somewhat believe it because my iPhone 7 screen looks different in different light settings and I don't have auto brightness turned on. If true tone is a feature on the 7 however, there should be an option in settings to turn it off and there is not, so I find this information suspect.
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I can somewhat believe it because my iPhone 7 screen looks different in different light settings and I don't have auto brightness turned on. If true tone is a feature on the 7 however, there should be an option in settings to turn it off and there is not, so I find this information suspect.
That waviness in your screen was a really bad defect. I'm glad you returned it. If I remember correctly, you weren't exchanging it for a new one. As you wait this cycle out, perhaps it will pay dividends since we're only 50 weeks (ish) away from the next iPhone!
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I just thought of another way to explain this, so lets see if we can find some common ground and get down to brass tacks on whats going on here.
I have been battling against people in this thread who have come in here claiming a warmer tone is intentional. I have done so because, even if a slightly warmer tone is intentional, it does not explain the issue presented in this thread.
I think this is where the disconnect lies. People are coming in here saying that these people with the yellow tinted displays are simply mistaken. That they arent used to a display calibrated to 6500K. To those people I now say: 6500K does not explain the yellow tint issues in this thread. An end user with a phone at 7000K vs 6500K would not notice much of a difference in those phones. Case in point: An iPhone 7 that appears to be almost exactly 6500K vs a monitor professionally calibrated to 6500K:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-19#post-23539223
This guys phone clearly has the good display that I've been advocating for. And its warmer than my 6s. Wait what? You thought this whole thing was about 6500k temp? Nope, its about having a nice clear screen with a milky white backlight,, clear colors, good contrast, and sharp text.
The yellow panels in this thread are not examples of panels at 6500K. I don't have one to measure, but if I had to guess theyd measure more like 5000K.
So there is the issue: people are saying Apple went warm this year. Maybe they did. That does not explain this batch of yellow or green tinted screens, which coincidentally exactly match the yellow and green tinted displays that ship with every single new Apple product.
We are both right. However some are trying to say this explains the yellow displays in this thread. It doesn't. And people who are getting the good displays, weather they are at 7100K or 6500K, are now much happier.
Hope that helps.
Edit to add: Heres a color temp graph. Notice that 6500K is still fairly blue. The yellow demonstrated in this thread is more like 5000k.
I just thought of another way to explain this, so lets see if we can find some common ground and get down to brass tacks on whats going on here.
I have been battling against people in this thread who have come in here claiming a warmer tone is intentional. I have done so because, even if a slightly warmer tone is intentional, it does not explain the issue presented in this thread.
I think this is where the disconnect lies. People are coming in here saying that these people with the yellow tinted displays are simply mistaken. That they arent used to a display calibrated to 6500K. To those people I now say: 6500K does not explain the yellow tint issues in this thread. An end user with a phone at 7000K vs 6500K would not notice much of a difference in those phones. Case in point: An iPhone 7 that appears to be almost exactly 6500K vs a monitor professionally calibrated to 6500K:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-19#post-23539223
This guys phone clearly has the good display that I've been advocating for. And its warmer than my 6s. Wait what? You thought this whole thing was about 6500k temp? Nope, its about having a nice clear screen with a milky white backlight,, clear colors, good contrast, and sharp text.
The yellow panels in this thread are not examples of panels at 6500K. I don't have one to measure, but if I had to guess theyd measure more like 5000K.
So there is the issue: people are saying Apple went warm this year. Maybe they did. That does not explain this batch of yellow or green tinted screens, which coincidentally exactly match the yellow and green tinted displays that ship with every single new Apple product.
We are both right. However some are trying to say this explains the yellow displays in this thread. It doesn't. And people who are getting the good displays, weather they are at 7100K or 6500K, are now much happier.
Hope that helps.
Edit to add: Heres a color temp graph. Notice that 6500K is still fairly blue. The yellow demonstrated in this thread is more like 5000k.
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Somehow if I backdate this forum or go to reviews on the ip 6s display I do not believe I am going to find info that says the 6s does not have the correct white point (even if it doesn't) or that its display was meh.
Not sure where all of this goes anyway, folks prefer certain things regardless. Look at the vivid over saturated colors on the Samsung displays. Obviously that is not correct but lots of folks love it.
Me, I prefer the ip 6s display over my current ip 7.
Also, I do think there is plausibly a breaking in period for these displays. They generally get better with time.
how are peoples iphone 7's for rattles, i know the camera makes a rattling noise but should it be this bad? http://sendvid.com/1no1ai9a
My personal experience is that the pictures make the yellow look way more yellow. Keep that in mind.
Well display models in the stores are on all day, I don"t think I have enough time to duplicate that over the course of 14 days since mine is not on all day.
Those display ip 7s don't look any better to me since Friday as far as I am concerned.
From doing some research online IPS displays have uniformity issues in general. You can return your phone over and over again and you're not going to find a perfect one unless you can get apple to pick one out of hundreds that is perfect. Most people never notice the issues and so companies do not throw out 50% of their displays or whatever that don't meet our OCD standards. This technology just has limitations unless you want to pay many times more. Get used to it.
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Yes, but when side by side with a 6s you can see the difference in tint. A 7 calibrated to 6500K would not look so drastically different from a 6s, regardless of the cameras white point that took the picture.
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Yes very true, however there is a display provider that produces consistently all-over tinted displays. They don't look good. Apple should fire that supplier.
I have a 6s plus and have been following these discussions with interest as I am very happy with my current screen "tint" and don't want to make an early adopter mistake.
I have a question I don't think I've seen addressed yet though. If the iPhone 7 screen is "normal" and supposed to be more accurate (as I've seen put forth here) then why don't Samsung phones have the same yellow hue when compared to the iPhone? I had a galaxy s6 edge that I played with for a week or two and its screen was beautiful. Next to my ip6s plus, which has a very nice non-yellow screen it looked even whiter and crisper. Absolutely no yellow tint there either.
So, if this yellow tint were accurate on the 7, wouldn't we see more phones outside of Apple with screens that look this way?
I'm sticking with my 6s plus until I can be relatively sure I'll have a screen I'm comfortable with. Clearly, many people are not happy with the yellow screens.
I have a question I don't think I've seen addressed yet though. If the iPhone 7 screen is "normal" and supposed to be more accurate (as I've seen put forth here) then why don't Samsung phones have the same yellow hue when compared to the iPhone? I had a galaxy s6 edge that I played with for a week or two and its screen was beautiful. Next to my ip6s plus, which has a very nice non-yellow screen it looked even whiter and crisper. Absolutely no yellow tint there either.
So, if this yellow tint were accurate on the 7, wouldn't we see more phones outside of Apple with screens that look this way?
I'm sticking with my 6s plus until I can be relatively sure I'll have a screen I'm comfortable with. Clearly, many people are not happy with the yellow screens.
I think its because 6500k actually isn't yellow at all. The yellow screens are not examples of Apple's new warmth, they are the same defects from years past. They are two different things.
How do you explain then the same problem that persists with MacBook Pro retina? You can't say with a straight face that glue is behind the yellow screens on various MBP's. I linked earlier in this thread to another thread on the iPhone SE where people complain about the same thing. Glue pops up as yellow spots on the screen dating back to iPhone 4/4s days. I still can't believe glue is responsible for abnormally yellow screens on our phones. I just don't buy it. My opinion and I'm sticking to it!
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, the new screens on the 7 that are NOT defective should look comparable to other phones when comparing "whiteness"?
It just seems there are two camps: The yellow screen is normal. And, the yellow screen is a defect.
It seems to me, that if your screen is noticeably and objectively yellow, it is a defect.
And then Apple spins it as a "feature "?
Yes, exactly, and we have many examples in this thread of people getting phones that look a lot like their old ones as well as other phones and monitors. If Apple is moving towards 6500K then fine - I'd gladly take the one guys 6500K iPhone 7 as it looks beautiful. The 2 iPhone 7's I had, however, were both dingy, one green, one yellow, and nowhere near accurate.
I'm noticing that my display is not entirely uniform in its tone. I would not say it's yellow, but there are some slightly "dirty" looking areas in the display. I have another iPhone 7 on the way, interesting to see how it compares.
My serial starts with DN and the phone is manufactured on week 36.
The photo does bring out the issue more than I see with naked eye. Colors are rich and vibrant, though. The photo has been taken in the evening with various lights on in the room.
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My serial starts with DN and the phone is manufactured on week 36.
The photo does bring out the issue more than I see with naked eye. Colors are rich and vibrant, though. The photo has been taken in the evening with various lights on in the room.
Any thoughts?
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You've seen that effect as well? Really lame
yeah they supposedly didnt have any more in stock, and I'm happy with my current 7 32gb
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Now y'all have me paranoid about my 7+. I think the screen looks fine but now I'm looking for yellow haha.
Another shot:
iPhone 6S and iPhone 7 side by side. Doesn't look that bad in this photo, less so IRL. (The color temperature is definitely different, though.)
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When I explained the yellow to the store employee, she said they're all yellow and warmer. Then I said, well mines just half yellow. The weird thing is that the top is as cool as my 6s Plus and he bottom is a nice warmer tone. It's like two different displays in one.
tried my luck at the display lottery, first 7 was noticibly uniform at the bottom, my new one is wayyyyy more uniform, not noticeable anymore except the display is slightly dimmer and warmer, more redish tint than yellow, keepin it!
None of these displays are going to be perfectly uniform. That's just a limitation of the technology. If it's really bad, return it. If you have to look for it squinting with a white background, then you're not going to get a better screen. That's about as good as they get I'm afraid. Maybe in a decade our screen tech will be better.
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