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Yellow Tint!
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This.
Just go the office of a professional photographer. You'd be shocked at how "yellow" his screens look.
Mines not really yellow, but somewhat splotchy. On the left side of the screen there is a darker spot by the bezel. Its not that noticeable but its there I'm hoping it settles. Anyone else?
There is clearly a yellow tint going on in some iPad 3's when compared to others. My girlfriend and I each recieved our iPad's yesterday and mine has a very definite yellow tint while hers does not. The max brightness on mine seems to not be as bright as on hers as well. Mine is a 16 GB Verizon, hers a 16 GB WiFi. Comparisons are below with mine (the yellow one) on the left.
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Went to the Apple Store. Genius Bar offered to exchange it I said no because I bought it on the online store and therefore I can get a refund. Can't do that if I exchanged it at the apple store.
They Showed me three machines they had there for use - all the same yellow tint. Tried to tell me the new ipad screen is naturally warmer due to retina.
I will call on Monday and get my money back (FYI - Japan)
They Showed me three machines they had there for use - all the same yellow tint. Tried to tell me the new ipad screen is naturally warmer due to retina.
I will call on Monday and get my money back (FYI - Japan)
This 'professional' doesn't have a screen calibration kit or a grey card
Colour temperature is a very exact.
What colour temperature someone likes is very subjective.
Most portrait photographers will tend to use a warmer pallet since most of their subjects don't want to look like zombies. A B/W photographer will probably choose a different pallet
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Why dopeople keep compairing the iPad to tv's and professional photographers equipment? It isn't, it's an iPad. A mobile device and it shouldn't be yellow.
Mine has a yellow tint at the top right of the screen. The rest is absolutely fine. So why would it be like that on purpose?
I haven't decided if I want to exchange it or not yet. Can imagine I will come up against resitance on their part. If they even have any instore.
Mine has a yellow tint at the top right of the screen. The rest is absolutely fine. So why would it be like that on purpose?
I haven't decided if I want to exchange it or not yet. Can imagine I will come up against resitance on their part. If they even have any instore.
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Just return it and get your money and move on, every display I've seen in the store is warm or yellow to u right?!? Take it back and move on
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Just return it and get your money and move on, every display I've seen in the store is warm or yellow to u right?!? Take it back and move on
The yellow iPad screen is a much better match for my professionally calibrated displays than the iPad 2 it's replacing.
While it may appear to be yellower in a side-by-side comparison, the reality is that the older screens were actually bluer than they should be7000K or more, rather than 6500K.
Here's some actual data rather than photo comparisons. (where you can change which screen looks white with the camera white balance setting)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36093388&postcount=6130
While it may appear to be yellower in a side-by-side comparison, the reality is that the older screens were actually bluer than they should be7000K or more, rather than 6500K.
Here's some actual data rather than photo comparisons. (where you can change which screen looks white with the camera white balance setting)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36093388&postcount=6130
Some of the new iPads are really yellow, the first one I got yesterday was so yellow and I returned it, they gave me a new one.
The new one looks slightly tinted compare to my iPhone 4s, however, for some odd reason, this slightly tinted yellow seems so natural to me, and now my iPhone 4s looks blue to me...
Yes I noticed the weird fov the retina display has. Just a little tilt and the colors shift ever so slightly like TN screens do. The iPS screen on iPad 2 didn't do this at all.
When I hold mine away for me at an angle like that definitely looks way more yellow. But it doesn't have any resolution issue from doing that.
Ideally you want a display (of whatever type) to show colours as accurately as possible (i.e. to look like the original object). Because all displays differ slightly, the way you get them to display colours accurately is by setting the white balance (colour temperature) to a known standard, e.g. d65 (a colour temperature of 6500 kelvin). Theoretically two displays from different manufacturers that are calibrated to d65 showing the same photo should look the same.
Unfortunately the way most displays come set up from the factory is with the colour temperature set too high (i.e their displays are too blue in tint) and the brightness set way too high. This looks good in a store under fluorescent lighting, but doesn't show accurate colours. So, one of the first things pro users (or home theatre buffs) do is calibrate the display to get accurate colour, which usually makes the display "warmer".
What does that all have to do with the iPad? Well, with their latest devices (iphone 4S, iPad 3) it looks like Apple is shipping a warmer colour temperature screen by default: at least in the 4S there is evidence based on measuring the screen colour temperature that shows the screen is closer to the d65 standard than that of the iphone 4. Hopefully we will get some information re: the iPad 3 when the guy who posted earlier in this thread puts up his spectrophotometer results from the iPad 3.
So, in general, that's probably why they look "yellow". The situation is complicated a bit, however, by the fact that there are likely some genuinely defective screens as well: yours sounds like it is, for example, because the colour is uneven.
Exactly! Once I get my lazy self motivated, I'm going to hit some stores and see how the display models look.
So I just called the apple store to exchange my ipad because of the yellow tint problem.
They gave me repair ID and told me to drop my iPad off at local UPS store without any box or cables, and they will take it and I will get a new one or fixed one within 3 to 5 business days.
Is this how its done usually?
They gave me repair ID and told me to drop my iPad off at local UPS store without any box or cables, and they will take it and I will get a new one or fixed one within 3 to 5 business days.
Is this how its done usually?
Usually they send you to the Apple store. Do you have one close by? If not then that's probably why you're sending it in.
Yea the nearest apple store is about an hour drive from my place, and I can't go cause I don't have a car.
But is it usual to send just the ipad, without the box or anything?
Let's say reports (like the one I am about to do), come out and show that the majority of the new iPads are closer to the 6500k color temp (which is what everything is calibrated for). Would some of you that are complaining still be mad?
I keep reading "nice and cool". The "cool" color temp is not "nice", if you are looking for accuracy to watch movies etc....
I bet if I did a poll on what setting the majority of people complaining (again, not saying some don't have issues) TV picture mode is set to. They will all say "Vivid" or "Normal", pretty much any option that is not "Movie/Theater/Cinema" (which 9 times out of 10 is the most accurate out of the box for a TV, but that's not saying much).
Quick (without google) what does the Brightness Setting on a TV actually control?
Apparently you have it all figured out.
I've used and worked on all kinds of computer screens and TVs. Some of them were properly calibrated, most of them probably not. It doesn't really matter what the numbers say on the calibration tools.......it ONLY matters that it looks good to the user. Seriously, unless you're a photo or graphics pro, it just doesn't matter as long as the user is happy.
When I booted my iPhone 4 (after owning the 3G), I thought it was amazing. To this day, it still looks great to my eyes, and I don't care if anyone thinks it is cool or whatever. When I booted my iPad 2, it also looked great (despite text fuzziness compared to the iPhone 4), and the colors all looked fantastic to my eyes. I noticed some whites looked a bit cool, but I had no issue with it.
When I booted my new iPad yesterday, I IMMEDIATELY noticed the reddish hue (mine is reddish, not yellowish). No comparison needed. It's warmer, and it's bothering me. When I actually put the iPhone next to the new iPad, it's very obvious: these are not the same Retina screens, at least color-wise. I'm going to give it a week or so, but I very well may take it back. The reason: Apple advertised a Retina display for the iPad, and as a consumer I expected that it would be the same quality/color as their previous Retina displays. At least in my case, it most definitely is not.
I mentioned it in my previous post, but it seems to have been overlooked.
There is iPad 2 data at the source.
There is iPad 2 data at the source.
Just got back from the Regent Street flagship. Compared my screen with 4 other screens in the store and ALL had superior screens to mine. Tried to get it exchanged but they were out of appointments.
Really frustrating to have to go through this every year with iOS devices, why can't Apple just set one universal calibration for all manufacturers. I went through the same thing with the 4S where i had to swap out twice. First screen was washed out and the second was yellow. My iPad screen was dimmer AND looked like it had been soaked/dyed in greenish mud compared to the screens i saw, which whilst warm, were much more neutral. Can't use my iPad anymore now knowing what i know.
Gonna see if i can swap it out throughout the coming week and if they make too much fuss or try to give me attitude (Regent Street staff are dire) then i'm returning it. The iPad was never a necessity for me and therefore have zero problem forgoing it altogether. However Resolutionary it is.
Really frustrating to have to go through this every year with iOS devices, why can't Apple just set one universal calibration for all manufacturers. I went through the same thing with the 4S where i had to swap out twice. First screen was washed out and the second was yellow. My iPad screen was dimmer AND looked like it had been soaked/dyed in greenish mud compared to the screens i saw, which whilst warm, were much more neutral. Can't use my iPad anymore now knowing what i know.
Gonna see if i can swap it out throughout the coming week and if they make too much fuss or try to give me attitude (Regent Street staff are dire) then i'm returning it. The iPad was never a necessity for me and therefore have zero problem forgoing it altogether. However Resolutionary it is.
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I went to the genius bar this afternoon. I kept debating whether or not there was an issue but decided I could at least compare with some of the other iPads in the store. Before my appointment I compared it with two white iPad 3s and I noticed that on the brightness level screen the large area below the wallpaper section was whiter on the store models, but the iPads were white and the bezel may have been helping a bit there as well. I found the same finding on the genius' iPad 2.
Two geniuses looked it and said it appeared to look correct to them - that when they sometimes line up their iPhones they will notice differences amongst them. It was clear though that if I was not happy they would replace it for me, and certainly if it degraded they would do so if I brought it back. I opted to keep it. I never would have thought a thing about it if not comparing and contrasting here and many of the screens posted are noticeably yellow on a blank safari page. In comparing it to my old iPad 1 this afternoon I noticed that the iPad 1 is noticeably darker and bluer and I far prefer the 3, and never had an issue with the 1 until today. I knew I would pore over the replacement 3 and find something else wrong with it and be comparing it against everybody else's until the end of time, and prefer not to be divorced by the end of the week.
Thanks for the feedback!
Two geniuses looked it and said it appeared to look correct to them - that when they sometimes line up their iPhones they will notice differences amongst them. It was clear though that if I was not happy they would replace it for me, and certainly if it degraded they would do so if I brought it back. I opted to keep it. I never would have thought a thing about it if not comparing and contrasting here and many of the screens posted are noticeably yellow on a blank safari page. In comparing it to my old iPad 1 this afternoon I noticed that the iPad 1 is noticeably darker and bluer and I far prefer the 3, and never had an issue with the 1 until today. I knew I would pore over the replacement 3 and find something else wrong with it and be comparing it against everybody else's until the end of time, and prefer not to be divorced by the end of the week.
Thanks for the feedback!
Yeah, they don't send you new cables, box, etc. Just a new iPad in a brown cardboard box.
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