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We’re still at the point where unique use cases are being discovered. This is the iPhone all over again. Except this time, people’s attention spans and level of patience are at an all time low. The product will mature faster than most people expect.

No, this isn’t iPhone. That comparison isn’t valid. There is no world in which Apple sells as many of these as iPhones. There’s no world where your mom owns and regularly uses a Vision. None.

The suggestion that the average person wants to put one of these on for any extended period of time is fantastical ideation IMO. Even if it becomes significantly smaller it’s not the kind of thing that will catch on with the general public.
 
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Half the store’s sections are for games 😂😂😂 what a ***** joke. They don’t want it to be a gaming device, yet they keep pushing these lame “games” in the marketing and now in the App Store. It will NEVER be a viable gaming solution until they add support for precision controllers. Even then, the motion blur would be incredibly annoying for faster paced games and it has one of the lowest FOVs for a high end device.
 
No, this isn’t iPhone. That comparison isn’t valid. There is no world in which Apple sells as many of these as iPhones. There’s no world where your mom owns and regularly uses a Vision. None.

The suggestion that the average person wants to put one of these on for any extended period of time is fantastical ideation IMO. Even if it becomes significantly smaller it’s not the kind of thing that will catch on with the general public.
You had me with the first half, but the tech will definitely catch on if they are able to shrink them down and make them more comfortable. It will happen. By then, probably in the next 10-20 years, the current zoomers and next generation will be accustomed to this kind of tech and will be of age to consume those products themselves.

Check out Immersive’s Visor that they’re coming out with later this year. That’s the direction we need to be going in terms of profile.

VR doesn’t seem all that popular right now, but more people have headsets than you would think. Now that Apple is in the game somewhat, it’s only going to get better.
 
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Good to see the available apps on the web. Hoping to see a lot more apps added to the store in the coming months.
 
You had me with the first half, but the tech will definitely catch on if they are able to shrink them down and make them more comfortable. It will happen. By then, probably in the next 10-20 years, the current zoomers and next generation will be accustomed to this kind of tech and will be of age to consume those products themselves.

Check out Immersive’s Visor that they’re coming out with later this year. That’s the direction we need to be going in terms of profile.

VR doesn’t seem all that popular right now, but more people have headsets than you would think. Now that Apple is in the game somewhat, it’s only going to get better.

Don’t count on it. In ten years this is what we got. Another ten? Doubtful that it’ll change significantly. And again, the vast majority of people will not want to wear a system like this on their faces unless it was CLEAR, unobtrusively small and had a specific, obvious use, which is not going to happen in the foreseeable future and likely never will. As long as it’s an opaque device that makes you view reality through cameras and screens it will not achieve anything remotely resembling wide adoption. This is not Star Wars. People don’t want to encounter the world from inside a helmet with screens.

Vision is a pipe dream. What many of you think is in its future is not in its future and basically every “advantage” it can offer demonstrated so far is more easily and conveniently accomplished with other hardware.
 
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whoa the immersion is unreal. if i didn’t know any better, i would think the $3500 window that’s 90% grey space was actually here in the room with me. just imagine what it’s gonna be like in 50-70 years when they get it to a functional form factor. it might even be as good or even just slightly worse than the phone i’ve already had for 15 years 🤯🤯🤯
 
Fact they need to open this to the web says enough about the lackluster sales. Remember the "leak" executives were lackluster about it and all of a sudden turned around and said it was the next big thing?
 
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Fact they need to open this to the web says enough about the lackluster sales. Remember the "leak" executives were lackluster about it and all of a sudden turned around and said it was the next big thing?
The fact that they are letting people browser the App Store on the web (like they do for iPhone, iPad, Mac, and Watch) means sales are lackluster? That’s a stretch.

And no, I don’t remember that leak. Link please?
 
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VR doesn’t seem all that popular right now, but more people have headsets than you would think. Now that Apple is in the game somewhat, it’s only going to get better.
Time will tell, it sure does not feel like headsets are going anywhere near mainstream use at the moment - it has nothing to do with how sophisticated (or not) the hardware is or the price tag, there’s just no point in using one for most people, in fact it’s just more impractical than what it pretends to enhance at the software level for the moment.
 
Don’t count on it. In ten years this is what we got. Another ten? Doubtful that it’ll change significantly. And again, the vast majority of people will not want to wear a system like this on their faces unless it was CLEAR, unobtrusively small and had a specific, obvious use, which is not going to happen in the foreseeable future and likely never will. As long as it’s an opaque device that makes you view reality through cameras and screens it will not achieve anything remotely resembling wide adoption. This is not Star Wars. People don’t want to encounter the world from inside a helmet with screens.

Vision is a pipe dream. What many of you think is in its future is not in its future and basically every “advantage” it can offer demonstrated so far is more easily and conveniently accomplished with other hardware.

It’d be interesting to come back to this comment in 5-10 years, because one of us is going to be very wrong. 🤣

I am 100% convinced to his is the future of computing. I bought it as an entertainment device, not a productivity device, and I’m doing hours of day of work in it. I do way more work in it that watch content (which, despite your saying can be done better by other things, is the best TV I own by a mile - and I have a VERY nice oled setup).

Will THIS version of the Vision Pro reach mass adoption? Absolutely not. But I think Vision is definitely the future of computing. To be clear it will take a few generations to get there, but once it’s a good bit lighter, sleeker, etc. -watch out.
 
No, this isn’t iPhone. That comparison isn’t valid. There is no world in which Apple sells as many of these as iPhones. There’s no world where your mom owns and regularly uses a Vision. None.

The suggestion that the average person wants to put one of these on for any extended period of time is fantastical ideation IMO. Even if it becomes significantly smaller it’s not the kind of thing that will catch on with the general public.
I didn’t get the impression @flexwithmarius was saying AVP has the popularity of the iPhone. I think the AVP App Store feels similar to the original iPhone App Store in terms of number of native apps. That’s what I thought @flexwithmarius was trying to say.
 
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We’re still at the point where unique use cases are being discovered. This is the iPhone all over again. Except this time, people’s attention spans and level of patience are at an all time low. The product will mature faster than most people expect.
Exactly - people act like the app store on iphone was as fully fleshed out as today - nope! It started with just 500 apps, and iBeer and fart apps ruled the charts, so much so that apple had to write them out of the store via the app store guidelines.
 
Just my own thought, I don’t have a single Apple product that I’d want to replace the others. I have an iPhone, iPad, MacBook and Vision Pro. There is overlap in some apps so I can use those from whatever device I want. I can view photos on iPhone but I’d rather view them on iPad. For me, even better, is viewing photos on Vision Pro. It’s a tool in the toolbox. Options are good. I know people who love their iPhone and that’s their only Apple product. They have a PC and no tablet. Pretty much every one of my friends has an iPhone. But we’ve never hated on each other about what other products any of us buy or don’t buy. I just don’t get that.
 
Because finding apps on AVP is difficult? Or is it simply because the AVP lacks so many apps? Compare this to a Mac or an iPhone…just imagine if a webpage was the most helpful way in finding apps for those devices…
Fun fact - Both iOS and MacOS have a web version as well.

I'm not sure why you are confused by the fact that without a VP you cant browse VP App Store application, so a web version is useful for people without a VP who are researching a potential purchase. But I suspect you knew this before posting your hot-take.
 
Well, I think general customer satisfaction around iPad has proven to be pretty high, even in light of all the bashing the line receives here. Personally, I love my iPad Pro 12.9 and can’t wait to upgrade it to the pending OLED version.

Vision? Different story. The buzz around it seems to have died down after about a week and now it’s not exactly on the mainstream radar anymore. It remains to be seen what the future holds for the device but it isn’t off to a very auspicious start.
This is kind of how it works with any high-profile, but not mainstream, product. There is a bunch of buzz initially which dies down after x amount of time.
 
Vision Pro - is that still a thing? I thought they were all in drawers by now like my iPad.
Thats a shame then as I use my iPad all the time for watching YT, playing games and reading mags and my mate says the vision pro is the best thing he has ever bought so as always YMMV
 
I didn’t get the impression @flexwithmarius was saying AVP has the popularity of the iPhone. I think the AVP App Store feels similar to the original iPhone App Store in terms of number of native apps. That’s what I thought @flexwithmarius was trying to say.
I would compare AVP to the original iPad, rather than the first iPhone.

When iPad was released, there was already an App Store, and there were many compatible apps (iPhone apps) that would run on it, but only a few that were optimized for the extra space.

Also, there was a lot of hostility toward the iPad (it's just a big iPhone--without the phone). Pee Wee Herman even made a rare appearance in a Funny or Die skit to mock the hype.

 
I would compare AVP to the original iPad, rather than the first iPhone.

When iPad was released, there was already an App Store, and there were many compatible apps (iPhone apps) that would run on it, but only a few that were optimized for the extra space.

Also, there was a lot of hostility toward the iPad (it's just a big iPhone--without the phone). Pee Wee Herman even made a rare appearance in a Funny or Die skit to mock the hype.

R.I.P. Paul (and my childhood)
 


Apple today made the visionOS App Store available on the web, giving Vision Pro users and prospective owners a way to see what apps are available for the device.

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As noted by 9to5Mac, Vision Pro apps can be viewed by going to the App Store for Apple Vision Pro web page. Apple has dedicated sections for apps and games, along with a separate tab for Apple Arcade games that can be used on Vision Pro.

Apps are organized into the same categories that are available on the Vision Pro, such as What's New, Hot This Week, iPhone and iPad Games for Vision Pro, and Don't Miss. Apps can also be viewed by type, with Apple organizing them into options like Weather, Utility, Entertainment, Sports, Productivity, and more.

The option to view available Vision Pro apps gives those without the headset a central location to check out the available software before deciding whether to make a purchase. Vision Pro apps have been listed individually on the App Store website since launch, but until now, there was no way to get an overview of all available content except on the Vision Pro itself.

Article Link: You Can Now Browse Vision Pro Apps on the Web
It would be nice if they would have included a section/category in the iPhone, iPad, MacOS App Stores for Vision Pro apps for Apple users, of course without the ability to download them in addition to the browser option for non Apple users.
 
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