it looks up the email or phone number to see if it ties in with the persons apple ID.
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You don't like iMessage because you don't get it. [iMessage FAQ]
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it looks up the email or phone number to see if it ties in with the persons apple ID.
How does the phone number tie in with the AppleID? Is it automatic when you set up your device or do you manually enter it in? Also, if you change sim cards regularly (business vs home sims) would iMessages only work for one of them as they are different numbers?
As far as I can tell, internally iMessage sends to your AppleID, not to your phone number. When you enter a phone number it is queried against a database at Apple to determine the associated Apple ID. This allows you to sync conversation between your iDevices, even those that do not have a phone number.
That said, I don't know whether their system will allow multiple phone numbers to be mapped to the same AppleID. if they don't, you can have people send iMessages directly to your AppleID to avoid any confusion over phone numbers. This may be preferable for you anyway, since your sender may not know which SIM is active.
actually when you enable iMessage for the first time, it associates your phone number with the apple ID, in the Messages settings menu you can see it under the 'Receive At' menu which tells you how many address you have set it to receive messages to, phone is greyed out and is the mobile you're using (how this works if you get more than 1 phone number i don't know) then you can add emails to it too, there's a caller ID sub menu that lets you pick wether it sends from your mobile or email address.
I thought I'd update.
Unfortunately I don't know anyone else with iOS 5 to properly test out iMessage, but with regards to my 2 sim problem: If I go to send a message to myself with my business sim that is currently in the iPhone it will come up as an iMessage message (which of course I can't send because you can't send iMessages to yourself). If I go to send a message from the business sim to my home sim which is not in the iPhone it will send as a normal text message.
If I swap the sims so that my personal sim is on the iPhone it will do the same thing. That is, my personal sim will now be iMessage-able, while the other is reduced to normal messaging. So I don't think any one number is fixed to an AppleID.
iMessages via iPad
Maybe I missed this in the Keynote, but how is an iMessage sent a device other than iPhone when there is no phone number? Is it your email like Facetime? Apple ID? This iMessage thing is really awesome!
Maybe I missed this in the Keynote, but how is an iMessage sent a device other than iPhone when there is no phone number? Is it your email like Facetime? Apple ID? This iMessage thing is really awesome!
diamond.g
macrumors G5
Any device that isn't an iPhone will need to be sent to via email. I think the other devices can send to an iPhone via phone number though (much like you can facetime with a iPhone via phone number).
I just read through this whole thread and didn't find my answer...
For those of you familiar with BBM groups, is iMessage group chat similar to that? Will we be able to just pick a group of people and create a group, title the group, and just chat back and forth with everyone easily seeing every message? That was one of the things I loved about the BB, being in a group with 8 friends and just seeing what everyone was up to with everyone able to reply.
For those of you familiar with BBM groups, is iMessage group chat similar to that? Will we be able to just pick a group of people and create a group, title the group, and just chat back and forth with everyone easily seeing every message? That was one of the things I loved about the BB, being in a group with 8 friends and just seeing what everyone was up to with everyone able to reply.
Zorn
macrumors 65816
This is a great post. When they first talked about it, I was pretty underwhelmed because it seemed like something extra that most people wouldn't take the time to do. When I realized it was automatic and in the background, it really is a great feature. When iOS 5 comes out, even people who would have no clue what something like this is will get the benefits of it.
BBM has been something that BB users have doted on for quite some time, and I would argue that this is even better since it happens seamlessly and behind the scenes. I knew people that had Blackberrys and never used the BBM because they didn't realize how to get to it and that it was separate from the normal texting app, etc.
BBM has been something that BB users have doted on for quite some time, and I would argue that this is even better since it happens seamlessly and behind the scenes. I knew people that had Blackberrys and never used the BBM because they didn't realize how to get to it and that it was separate from the normal texting app, etc.
nateo200
macrumors 68030
The title of this thread is very true. There is allot of misinformation. One thing I think needs mentioning is when they advertise for data services as "3G service" just assume that its data service and you can use any phone function on cellular unless otherwise specified (ie: facetime, talk and browse, some apps that require 3G vs [E]GPRS or 1xRTT, etc.).
MMS will go over any cellular single so long as there is a data connection. That misconception you have is from when the original iPhone (1st gen NOT "2G" as everyone calls it based off its network connection) couldn't send MMS because Apple did not put it in iOS for whatever strange reason, I think it might have been AT&T I can't remember which but it was certainly not a network issue. GPRS brought on the start of data services with MMS and Enhanced GPRS known as EDGE more commonly brought faster data rates by tripling the number of time slots in the GPRS signaling system. If your going to post information please understand what your talking about. If your curious:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service
MMS will go over any cellular single so long as there is a data connection. That misconception you have is from when the original iPhone (1st gen NOT "2G" as everyone calls it based off its network connection) couldn't send MMS because Apple did not put it in iOS for whatever strange reason, I think it might have been AT&T I can't remember which but it was certainly not a network issue. GPRS brought on the start of data services with MMS and Enhanced GPRS known as EDGE more commonly brought faster data rates by tripling the number of time slots in the GPRS signaling system. If your going to post information please understand what your talking about. If your curious:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service
ckurt25
macrumors 65816
I've seen a few older questions surrounding iPads but didn't see any answers. Maybe there is more info available now. Has anyone tested or know of the answers to the following scenario?
I'm sitting at home with my iPhone at my side and my iPad in my lap. Someone sends me an iMessage. Do I get it on both my iPhone and iPad at the same time? If so, does my reply (and conversation thread) from my iPad also appear on my iPhone?
I was under the assumption that you continue conversations across devices. I'm just wondering how. Might be a bit of a pain I'm using my iPad, set it down, my daughter picks it up and starts playing Cut the Rope and I get something via iMessage. Maybe my identification would be both my phone number and then email address I have with the iPad. Is that the way Facetime works on the iPad and iPhone? I just have the 1st Gen iPad so I wasn't sure. If that's the case I'm not sure if you'd get the message to both devices and still wondering if you'd be able to continue a conversation if you switch devices.
Thanks!
I'm sitting at home with my iPhone at my side and my iPad in my lap. Someone sends me an iMessage. Do I get it on both my iPhone and iPad at the same time? If so, does my reply (and conversation thread) from my iPad also appear on my iPhone?
I was under the assumption that you continue conversations across devices. I'm just wondering how. Might be a bit of a pain I'm using my iPad, set it down, my daughter picks it up and starts playing Cut the Rope and I get something via iMessage. Maybe my identification would be both my phone number and then email address I have with the iPad. Is that the way Facetime works on the iPad and iPhone? I just have the 1st Gen iPad so I wasn't sure. If that's the case I'm not sure if you'd get the message to both devices and still wondering if you'd be able to continue a conversation if you switch devices.
Thanks!
The messages do sync, IF you setup iMessage on both devices to use the same ID. You can just setup your iPad to use a different Apple ID.
(The ID used in iMessage can be separate from your iTunes Apple ID. This way message is separate, but your Apps are still shared.)
Yes to both devices and thread questions. Tho only tested it via imessage to email address. Dunno about if you start an imessage to the mobile number tho.
mikelegacy
macrumors 65816
Am I the only one not incredibly excited about iMessage? I don't really care if I can see when my friends read my text, and if I'm not in a cell area, I can use WIFI which google voice or a text app.
I'm not trolling, maybe it just doesn't benefit me very much. That said, i rarely fly, and everywhere I go I have decent reception....so this really does nothing for me.
Now if they made an "iPhone" app, that called over a data network, maybe I wouldn't drop 300 calls an hour on AT&T. 😀
I'm not trolling, maybe it just doesn't benefit me very much. That said, i rarely fly, and everywhere I go I have decent reception....so this really does nothing for me.
Now if they made an "iPhone" app, that called over a data network, maybe I wouldn't drop 300 calls an hour on AT&T. 😀
I think you fall in line with those who dont quite understand the goals of iMessage (no offence meant). iMessage is intended to be a seamless enhancement to the existing SMS app. For most this means a slightly improved UI with free texting to a subset of your contacts. Your impact is directly related to your need for SMS and your contacts use of iDevices. It seems like one or both of these don't strongly apply to you. For others this could save them $15 a month through dropping unlimited txting plans. At the end of the day, there is little they could do to improve the SMS app that will excite a user who doesn't heavily use SMS.
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You want talkatone!
I'm not really excited about imessages, though I can see its benefits.
Very few of my friends have iPhones, somy girlfriend has an iPod touch, and of the 3 friends with iPhones, 2 have an iPad. I'm just glad that nothing really changes for the user if they don't want to use it.
mikelegacy said:
You want talkatone!
I'm not really excited about imessages, though I can see its benefits.
Very few of my friends have iPhones, somy girlfriend has an iPod touch, and of the 3 friends with iPhones, 2 have an iPad. I'm just glad that nothing really changes for the user if they don't want to use it.
vkuber
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One neat feature I realized is when someone sends you a SMS - Even if they don't have an iPhone, you can see what recipients were included in the text message. Has anyone else seen this before? Not sure if this was a feature in iOS 4 x.x since I just got my iPhone and put iOS 5 on it.
Ingster
macrumors 6502
Ok hopefully someone will be able to help here
on my apple account i have my mac, iphone 4, ipad and the wife's touch
Now if a friend with an iphone sends me an i message will it go to the iphone ipad and the wife's touch? if so that ain't great! likewise he has his GF on his apple id so if i sent a reply would it go to both?
it's like the facetime issue i have, if someone facetime's my apple id it rings on my mac, but use my phone number and it'll go to my phone.
Interestingly though call my mac (email) from my mobile and i get a completely different mobile number displayed than mine, dialling from the mac to the iphone using my standard number won't go through but use this mystical number it does - 😕😕
I hope that imessage will have an option of selecting which device you sends it to otherwise the missus will get bored of having to read all my geeky texts etc
on my apple account i have my mac, iphone 4, ipad and the wife's touch
Now if a friend with an iphone sends me an i message will it go to the iphone ipad and the wife's touch? if so that ain't great! likewise he has his GF on his apple id so if i sent a reply would it go to both?
it's like the facetime issue i have, if someone facetime's my apple id it rings on my mac, but use my phone number and it'll go to my phone.
Interestingly though call my mac (email) from my mobile and i get a completely different mobile number displayed than mine, dialling from the mac to the iphone using my standard number won't go through but use this mystical number it does - 😕😕
I hope that imessage will have an option of selecting which device you sends it to otherwise the missus will get bored of having to read all my geeky texts etc
vkuber
macrumors regular
I would imagine the simplest solution would be to associate your devices separately with different Apple ID accounts. I have an iPad but I don't think I'll ever use iMessage for it but that's my personal preference.
yes if you have set up iMessages on both and using the same apple ID on both
as stated above, the message will go to all devices you have set up iMessage on with the same apple ID. you can just not set it up on the wife's iPod Touch and all is fine.
as for FaceTime, iPhone used to only use the phone number, whereas Mac's, iPad's and iPod Touches used Apple ID. now the iPhone can use the Apple ID or the phone number.