Obviously they're not true friends. I wouldn't stay within a 10 foot radius if I were you! Maybe he's paying some hobos off the street because he's lonely?
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You don't like iMessage because you don't get it. [iMessage FAQ]
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Obviously they're not true friends. I wouldn't stay within a 10 foot radius if I were you! Maybe he's paying some hobos off the street because he's lonely?
Currently you are correct, and in fact if you have both an ipod touch or ipad along with an iPhone and can be a real pain to understand how all these imessage are flying around.
SMS doesn't pass through Apple's Server, so it won't get synced to the iPad. only iMessages get synced.
Does sending an iMessage count as data usage if sent over 3G, EDGE?
yes
But wouldn't it be possible for the Messages app to sync those SMSs after the fact? Certainly it would be possible. Would it be done that way? I bet some people would be glad if so.
My suggestions to Apple for iMessage:
-Open it up to other platforms to punish the carriers for limiting data. A lot of people will flock to iMessage on all platforms so they could save money by lowering or getting rid of their SMS add-ons. Right now I maybe able to lower my text plan but I'll have friends on other platforms and they're all using varying messaging apps (SMS, Whatsapp, BBM, etc). With an application backed by Apple it will take over on all platforms. AT&T saw this happening and already forced their users to take an all or nothing approach. Having iMessage across the board could potentially let you take the nothing approach.
-Copy BBM. Right now iMessage is kind of boring and everything happens in the background. Let me have the option to have a status. Integrate it with my music player to let me have the option to show people what I'm listening to. Build in some APIs to let third party applications use iMessage to open it up socially like what BBM is doing (like letting Foursquare update my status with my checkin). I know a lot of people hate Facebook and the entire concept of social networking but that's why I said option. Let those of use who want to have iMessage be a form of social networking use it and those of you who don't want to turn it all off.
-Keep iMessage on mobile devices only, never EVER port it to the Mac. I have GTalk on my phone and I can't hold a conversation with someone IM'ing me from a computer because they have their keyboard and I have my phone. I can't keep up with their messages as people tend to type longer messages on the computer and my responses are short thus cheapening the conversation.
-Open it up to other platforms to punish the carriers for limiting data. A lot of people will flock to iMessage on all platforms so they could save money by lowering or getting rid of their SMS add-ons. Right now I maybe able to lower my text plan but I'll have friends on other platforms and they're all using varying messaging apps (SMS, Whatsapp, BBM, etc). With an application backed by Apple it will take over on all platforms. AT&T saw this happening and already forced their users to take an all or nothing approach. Having iMessage across the board could potentially let you take the nothing approach.
-Copy BBM. Right now iMessage is kind of boring and everything happens in the background. Let me have the option to have a status. Integrate it with my music player to let me have the option to show people what I'm listening to. Build in some APIs to let third party applications use iMessage to open it up socially like what BBM is doing (like letting Foursquare update my status with my checkin). I know a lot of people hate Facebook and the entire concept of social networking but that's why I said option. Let those of use who want to have iMessage be a form of social networking use it and those of you who don't want to turn it all off.
-Keep iMessage on mobile devices only, never EVER port it to the Mac. I have GTalk on my phone and I can't hold a conversation with someone IM'ing me from a computer because they have their keyboard and I have my phone. I can't keep up with their messages as people tend to type longer messages on the computer and my responses are short thus cheapening the conversation.
well it's not being done yet, whether this will change, we have to wait and see. it's a different protocol, so it may not like it. I'm not saying i don't want it to do so tho.
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actually i'm quite the opposite to this, i want it on computers too, and with FaceTime being cross platform, hopefully iMessage will too, just open it up to windows. me and my friends have no problems cross platform convos.
Yep. Me too. iMessage could be insanely great for me if it was also on the Mac.
And I agree with the other poster, TEXTS should sync as if they were data
I LOVE the sound of this, mainly for use in my university building where I can't get signal for love nor money, but theres wifi everywhere. And most of my friends have iPhones. Excited!
Kudos to you, OP, for that informative summary. I find iMessage useful because it acts like BBM, except that it's for the iPhone, which makes this excellent for us users. And, I guess that Apple has responded to users wanting iChat on iOS by providing Facetime and iMessage as complements..
So I'm in a somewhat unique subset of iPhone users, and I'm waiting to see how well iMessage will integrate into my current setup.
Currently I use a Google Voice number for all SMS. To do this I use the GV SMS Extension from Cydia, as well as biteSMS. Any word on how those kinds of apps/services play with iMessages yet?
Currently I use a Google Voice number for all SMS. To do this I use the GV SMS Extension from Cydia, as well as biteSMS. Any word on how those kinds of apps/services play with iMessages yet?
Can we turn it off? I'd rather use my texts (unlimited) than use any of my data allowance to be honest (500mb)..
i think its more than saf to use on 3g. i dont know how many kb it takes to send a message, but it is probably miniscule. like sending an aim message over 3g.
yes you can turn it off from settings.
this is a screenshot of me sending a few iMessages to my mate straight after I updated to ios 5 gm. He had ios 5 the whole time. notice before I had ios 5 the message was sent as an SMS (which automatically appears in green), after i updated to ios the messages automatically were sent as iMessages (which naturally appear in blue).
of course if I turned iMessages off everything would be sent as an SMS. I like how it's easy to tell between the two with the difference in colour.
of course if I turned iMessages off everything would be sent as an SMS. I like how it's easy to tell between the two with the difference in colour.
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I think AT&T tied most family plans to unlimited texting which also includes the free mobile to mobile calling so for my four family lines it's a non issue. Although I travel internationally quite a bit and will love this on wifi.
Also going to love it on the iPad.
Also going to love it on the iPad.
Push social networking? I'd Block your number. I know you said option. But I don't mind Facebook I mind spam texts.
So as I understand it, iOS will automatically switch to iMessage if both users have iOS 5.
That's great, but what if you're on a call using a Verizon iPhone? As we all know, Verizon doesn't support simultaneous voice/data, but texts work fine while on a call. Is iMessage intelligent enough to send the message as a text in that instance or are Verizon customers screwed here since iMessage uses data?
That's great, but what if you're on a call using a Verizon iPhone? As we all know, Verizon doesn't support simultaneous voice/data, but texts work fine while on a call. Is iMessage intelligent enough to send the message as a text in that instance or are Verizon customers screwed here since iMessage uses data?
Yes. This includes me and probably 80 percent of "teenagers" (teenagers being people who have their phone bill paid by their parents) who are on ATT.
I think this is only going to help me if... hm.... I ever want to text somebody who's on their computer, who has a Mac (which is nobody as of now), or if I want to text from another iOS device (which I don't have).
If I want to text from the computer, I just use Google Voice, which gives me a FREE new number that has free text (over data) and allows me to text from my computer as well.
iMessage is an extra bit of help as well
Like most things Apple, you won't notice iMessage because it's been done properly. Just can't wait for widespread adoption of iOS5.