You're disappointed in the iPhone 5. I know why.

[ChocolateApple]

No Competitor Has a Apple OS

Last time I checked Gartner's statistics it seemed those moving to Android mainly came from Symbian and BB while IPhone users seemed pretty loyal to their brand.

Makes sense to me. I'm a Apple user. I don't care what Android (the copycat) releases. If it doesn't come with an iOS from Apple, I am not switching to anything.

 

[pmz]

For those who base their comments from, "I have a Samsung and..." or "I have an HTC and..."

How do you even get past how god awful the touch screen is on every one of those devices? If you've used an iPhone for more than 30 seconds you could never tolerate such horrible touch interfaces, all features and comparison aside.

 

[thieverycorp.]

The buzz for the iPhone5 is not nearly what it was two years ago for the iPhone4. I am an Android fan, but I read all the Tech forums, and Apple fan sites, and it seems like many are ho hum on the new iPhone5, not many are freaking out for it like I remember the iPhone4 had crazy hype and people begging for that the i4.

To me the iPhone4 was the biggest deal for Apple, it was the first iPhone with the all new industrial and beautiful design, the first with the "retina" display, it was a real game changer for the smartphone world back in 2010. In 2012 Apple just sort of gives us more of the same, nothing like a jump from the 3GS to the iPhone4. The iPhone5 from the 4/4S does not feel like such a big deal as back in 2010.

To me am I disappointed, the iOS UI still is pretty much overall the same now for 5 years, still no widgets, no led notification light, and still just a screen full of app icons. To me it looks boring and outdated now in 2012, they need to freshen it up.

And the design of the iPhone5, yes it is very nice and solidly built, but it is a continuation for a third year in row of the same design, nothing new really.

Oh well, guess we have to now wait till 2014 for the iPhone6 to see a new design again and new UI.

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I have a lot of friends an family who are iPhone fans, most still have the iPhone4, and I am shocked to hear their response to the iPhone5, they all said will most likely probably get it, but none of them plan to run out and get it A.S.A.P. they said will wait a few months or early next year, and are perfectly happy with their old iPhone4.

But those same people were purchasing the iPhone4 right away when it came out, the first week or first month. And they had either the 3G or 3GS at the time going to the iPhone4.

So the iPhone5 to the people I know that love Apple, do not seem so excited about it, they side would like to see Windows 8 Phones later this year first, and possibly what the new Nexus device is like, before committing to the new iPhone5.

I don't know about you, but I'm an AVID user on Cydia and I like to mess with the tweaks and such, and my iPhone 4 is crappin' out. And from observations from teenagers, non-techie adults, they only use the iPhone to call, text, play mini games, camera, and sometimes Siri.

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I would take the other side of the debate. If you are trying to compare spec. Iphone 5 is no where near a lot of Android phone on the market today. But if you look at Apple's design effort, you will see that this phone is build for light weight, thinner and quality feel. The components that they choose and the design effort all contributed to the slim, light weight and quality feel. It is much like a high end purse (LV, Channel) rather than a mid price purse (Coach). If you really look behind the hood, the effort to slim down the phone and reduce the weight while increase the screen size and holding the battery is much more than just adding an NFC chip. They need to introduce a brand new in cell touch screen technology to cut the thickness by 0.4 mm. It may not be a technology that you appreciate but it is inaccurate to say that Iphone 5 is a minor upgrade.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/14...xpected-to-shave-0-4mm-off-apples-next-iphone

I must have read over 150 initial reviews on Iphone 5. And the reviewer world is divided into two groups. The techie based review blast Apple for not including all the latest tech feature like NFC or the rumored finger security feature. The vast majority of the main stream reviewers focus on the feel and the look of the phone. I have a Samsung Infuse now and it does everything that I could ask for and I think most of the Iphone 5 buyers are simple user that may have a few apps. Like it or not, smartphone is moving into mass consumer phase and the looks and feel will become very important. About 5% of the review start to compare the look and feel of Iphone 5 to S3 and complain about plastic S3 body and use the word "cheap" to describe S3. The full blown review will come out this weekend (I hope), and we will see how this will go down. If the buying public value the design elements that Apple focus on, Iphone 5 will be a much bigger seller than 4S.

I think the problem with iPhone releases is, people expect too much out of Apple. And they expect too much for specs rather than usability and functionality.

Example: Face unlock: It takes like 5-20 seconds to get your face read when you can just slide the damn thing and get it over with. NFC: Does America have things that really work with NFC? Could we take of advantage of what we have?

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Minor spec bump.



My carrier user the two 4G frequencies that aren't supported by any of the three iPhone 5 models.



Old wifi was as fast as my router supports.



Actively dislike this - harder to hold, looks nasty. Feels like a complete waste over more battery.



No interest in this. Generally liked the heft.



Never damaged my iPhone in five years.



Genuine improvements to be fair.



No evidence to suggest this whatsoever.



Actively dislike.



Apple have said this before and been wrong.





Flat out don't believe this is true. We know what the battery is. It's not very good.



Yes, they're slight improvements. Meanwhile Lightning as a connector is a disaster, trapping us in glacial update slowness for another decade, losing several features and giving a more delicate connector that will cause more breakages. And it seems to contain a DRM chip meaning third parties will now need to licence *anything* that connects to it, pushing up prices of everything from cables to docks significantly. Meanwhile the ecosystem of always knowing someone with an appropriate charging cable nearby or a dock to borrow is lost for a decade.

Downloading Google Maps will not fully fix all the problems caused by it's removal, even if the app is hypothetically perfect. It won't catch links from Safari/address book etc etc. It won't be the API used by other apps. The backgrounding process will kill it off faster than native apps, losing my position more. We're yet to see if O2's image compression proxy will cock the resolution up as it does on the web version.

I don't know about you, but I like the design of the Lightning port and its use. I tend to use my phone at night, and it's such a pain in the rear end to plug it in the dark knowing that you have a 50% chance of plugging it in the wrong way and potentially scratching the antenna band.

 

[revelated]

1 - Why can't I bring up battery? So many of my friends have had LTE phones for a while now... yet, none of them used it because they wanted their battery to last longer. Next, lets look at the percentage of Users that have access to LTE... Not much, granted it just got a lot better, but that was very recent. And going forward as it becomes more accessible... the iPhone 5 has LTE.

The post refers to the fact that Apple is just now catching up to innovations already done by others. 4G was expected with the iPhone 4. It wasn't there. It was then expected with the 4S. It wasn't there. It Apple YEARS to get on board. The excuses at the time: "4G is a battery killer!!" Motorola proved there's a way around that, and honestly, the MAXX's battery is what people should be getting from Apple since the Apple laptops have batteries that destroy PC laptops. How is it possible that Apple can do so well with computer batteries yet average on phone batteries? It doesn't make sense, and one can only attribute stagnancy on the part of Apple. Even in a 3G world, people with iPhone 4's and 4S's complain about their battery not lasting.

Now that they're finally in a 4G world, not only have they not improved the underlying battery (because I guarantee it's not lasting 8 hours on continuous 4G), it doesn't even maximize the experience by adding the two radios necessary for it. More excuses about GSM/CDMA which don't matter: CDMA is here, it isn't going anywhere for the immediate future, and since Apple wants to release a new iPhone every 1-2 years, putting the second radio in now to take advantage of today's tech would satiate people who want iPhone but don't want to lose what the HTC Thunderbolt, a phone released nearly 5 years ago, could do for them. Again, it doesn't make sense.

People can call me a hater and that's fine. All I'm doing is explaining the disappointment. The iPhone 5 is a delta catchup phone, nothing more. It doesn't innovate anything, and that's what people are upset about. It's the same thing they effectively did with the Mac Pro.

 

[Surely]

People can call me a hater and that's fine. All I'm doing is explaining the disappointment. The iPhone 5 is a delta catchup phone, nothing more. It doesn't innovate anything, and that's what people are upset about. It's the same thing they effectively did with the Mac Pro.

Then you should have framed your post as explaining YOUR OWN disappointment. Who are you to tell us how everyone else (besides yourself) is feeling about this?

I'm not disappointed. Not at all. I'm very satisfied with the improvements that I will get moving from a 4 to a 5.

 

[mcman77]

People can call me a hater and that's fine.

Who cares about the haters.

Point you didn't take into consideration is that OSX is still where it use to be. It never took off like iOS but it is still alive (doing better cause of iOS one could imagine).

iPhone won't die out, it simply won't be the top selling anymore IMO.

 

[Dmaynard83]

I know this isn't completely true but I notice many of those that hate the iPhone come from network that doesn't allow it like T Mobile.

 

[Rogifan]

Um, no. Apple would never try a launch this big and then piss everyone off on purpose by selling out in one hour. It's inevitable that initial supplies will run out, but I guarantee Apple did not want it to happen this fast. You're going to see news stories in a few days about astounding pre-order sales.

EDIT: If you want to see a truly manufactured "sold out" situation, see Amazon's first gen Kindle announcements from a couple of weeks ago.

Okay I have a serious question. Why in the world would Apple limit supply when everyone, especially Wall Street will be clamoring for huge sales figures next week? Sure news stories saying that the iPhone sold out already probably will increase demand for the product, but you can't tell me Apple doesn't want to report a huge sales figure early. I mean if they come out next week with initial sales figures that are less than the 4S (using the theory they limited supply to create hype and demand) we dont need to imagine how it will be reported in the media. It will be reported as a failure. And all the news stories will be wondering if Apple has lost its magic, if consumers are jumping ship to phones with bigger screens, etc.

There's one thing Apple wants to be able to report and that's huge first week(end) sales.

 

[revelated]

I'm not disappointed. Not at all.

Then this thread was never for you. Why are you here?

 

[Surely]

Then this thread was never for you. Why are you here?

Oh, is this thread by invitation only?

I'm here because your thread title implied that I am (and everyone else is) disappointed and that you know why. If you're disappointed, state that you're disappointed. But don't assume how everyone else feels (or should feel) about the 5.

The real question is why are you here?

 

[dreamteam]

So what's the point of this thread? Serious question. This is a pro-Apple site, so are you basically here to insult us? What are you hoping to get out of this?

You don't like Apple. You don't like the iPhone. Great! I hope you're happy with whatever technology you have chosen. In the mean time, there's alot of us that love Apple products. So don't come on here insulting us.

 

[spiralynth]

So what's the point of this thread? Serious question. This is a pro-Apple site, so are you basically here to insult us? *What are you hoping to get out of this?

You don't like Apple. You don't like the iPhone. Great! I hope you're happy with whatever technology you have chosen. In the mean time, there's alot of us that love Apple products. So don't come on here insulting us.

He's a paid shill. He traverses the interwebs insulting, attacking, spewing venomous garbage, preying on the weak, trying to use old and tired suggestive mind tricks like "you ARE disappointed" (tell that to a weak minded person a few times and his/her subconscious will be convinced).

He's one of millions with an agenda, and his ilk have been bought for pennies to try and bring down the Apple machine. Paid for by whom? Google, Samsung, HTC. You know, undermining, copy-cat, thieving charlatans who still can't figure out how to maximize their margins like Apple did long ago. So instead they bring up the old spec-compare game of the late '90s PC era when they know full and well that this post-pc era is less about those things and more about vertical integration. It's transparent, it's pathetic, and it is, I assure you, a colossal waste of your time (theirs too, but I wouldn't tell them that - nothing more satisfying than watching them waste their energy and resources in the process).

Is Apple perfect? Far from it. Could they do some things better? Yep. Do I think the iPhone 5 more or less is the phone they planned to release last year? Yep. Did a major death in the family coupled with suppliers not being able to meet certain (screen) production demands ultimately result in the mildly upgraded 4S? Yep. Did they still pull it off despite the obstacles? Like no one else could have.

And they will continue to do so. Bank on it.

 

[EquilibriumGroup]

How can I obtain the video on YouTube? Anyone care to send me a link please! I'm on the iPhone and I can't seem to share :S

Thanks guys

EQ xxx

 

[62tele]

I have to LMAO at the OP.

No, not everyone is even remotely disappointed. It's so smug, presumptive and arrogant to think you speak for the majority.

Apple will not only sell a **** pot full of iPhones and be the #1 smartphone on the market. It's users will be in love with it.

You don't understand it and you never will. You think that all of gimmicks in Android matter to the average consumer. They don't.

 

[ethana]

Here's the thing... This thread is totally irrelevant. 10's of millions of people love their iPhone. It's not going to change ANY time soon, especially now with the bigger screen and LTE. So all the haters waiting for Apple to lose or die, have fun waiting.

Also, the past does not predict the future in this case. Apple was never even close to the worlds most valuable company back then... Money talks and Apple has it for years to come. It's a different time, different product, and different leaders.

The thread is just ridiculous because it tries to predict the future. And anyone who does that in the tech industry is a FOOL.

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I have to LMAO at the OP.

No, not everyone is even remotely disappointed. It's so smug, presumptive and arrogant to think you speak for the majority.

Apple will not only sell a **** pot full of iPhones and be the #1 smartphone on the market. It's users will be in love with it.

You don't understand it and you never will. You think that all of gimmicks in Android matter to the average consumer. They don't.

This + 100000000

 

[revelated]

So what's the point of this thread? Serious question.

The point of this thread is to help people - namely, people who ARE disappointed - explain why.

People that are NOT disappointed, have no business in this thread. Because you're not disappointed.

I've not said one insult about any individual. On the contrary, I share the disgust of people who actually were looking forward to something innovative out of Apple and didn't get it. I know that's foreign to some of you; the notion that someone could actually have a clear opinion. But the fact is, without companies actually innovating, other companies get stagnant. So yes, even I look for Apple to do something that pushes others. Mind you, not pointless crap like "natural scrolling". But really beneficial things - like backlit keyboards standard on laptops to where others have no choice but to follow suit.

A simple Google Search will reveal the disappointment splattered across the Interweb. I don't have to justify it; very few people are impressed with the iPhone 5 and even less are satisfied with what they were presented. In fact, more think that the iPod Touch's leap was a lot more substantial.

You're not disappointed in the iPhone 5? Look at the title and say "well, I'm not, so I'll ignore that thread". Don't come in here like a fanboy trying to play out what's in the video. Just move on. There are a lot more commenters here who share the disappointment.

 

[realeric]

"revelated" might be getting so angry over the truth. Samesung sells unlocked SG3 for $150 with no contract in some countries.

 

[Hydros]

At least the new iphone is 16:9!

 

[spiralynth]

"revelated" might be getting so angry over the truth. Samesung sells unlocked SG3 for $150 with no contract in some countries.

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Brilliant. Well played.

 

[SMIDG3T]

No. I'm not.

 

[Want300]

the MAXX's battery is what people should be getting from Apple since the Apple laptops have batteries that destroy PC laptops. How is it possible that Apple can do so well with computer batteries yet average on phone batteries? It doesn't make sense

This point... I agree with. 100%, I would have expected them to never have battery issues based off of their computers. I know there are always limits of course. but when all my friends we buying extended life batteries and still only getting 2-3 hours, I was getting 4.5-5.5 hours on my MBP.

but,

Assuming the only reason had to due with battery, imagine how bad things would have been if the 4S did have LTE. Also, they wanted to build a world phone (Economically smarter for business). LTE was still barely deployed, so I think that had more to do with it. A much larger percentage of their customers did not even have LTE coverage yet. AT&T finally got LTE in my area between the 4S and the 5, and I am sure it was that way for a lot of people on AT&T and VZW... And I live in StL, which is a relatively large city. Sprint still doesn't have LTE here last time I checked.

Unfortunately, a lot of phone manufacturers did just throw it in to say their phone is an LTE phone, even if the battery couldn't handle it. That put such a bad taste in my mouth, that I was glad the iPhone did not have it because I did not think it was worth it yet. And with the iPhone 4, AT&T still didn't have LTE or was just starting to deploy it, so why should they bother with it then? (Remember, at first, the iPhone 4 was only on AT&T in the US, I am so used to VZW (4/4S/5) and Sprint (4S/5) having the iPhone, that I forget it used to be AT&T only).

They didn't put LTE in the 4S, and it ended up being the right business decision... It was a very successful phone as we know. If LTE was in it, and it was obliterating the battery, who knows what would have happened.

These are my thoughts.

 

[blizeH]

You don't understand it and you never will. You think that all of gimmicks in Android matter to the average consumer. They don't.

So what does matter? (and I'm really hoping you don't say what I think you're about to say)

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Samesung sells unlocked SG3 for $150 with no contract in some countries.

They most certainly do not.

 

[cmChimera]

Motorola proved there's a way around that, and honestly, the MAXX's battery is what people should be getting from Apple since the Apple laptops have batteries that destroy PC laptops. How is it possible that Apple can do so well with computer batteries yet average on phone batteries? It doesn't make sense, and one can only attribute stagnancy on the part of Apple. Even in a 3G world, people with iPhone 4's and 4S's complain about their battery not lasting.

Why do people cite the MAXX battery as if the phone is not massive? Sure it's thin, but's also very wide and very tall. It's like holding a crepé. It's really not all that impressive it has good battery life.

 

[dvoros]

iPhone5 (not really)

I for one cannot wait for the real NEW iPhone release in October. Imagine a 5 inch screen, 10 megapix and 8 megapix cameras, much longer battery life, simultaneous talk and search, NFC built-in, user-face recognition, easier sharing of photos among friends. WOW, this will be so great. All along Apple has been playing with us by releasing pixs and info on the improved 4s so we would think its the new iPhone. We were played. Apple will surprise all of us in October with the new and REAL iPhone 5.