YouTube Apple TV App Updated With Streamlined Interface, Video Advertisements

[kd5jos]

Advertisements... New is not always better

Yeah, my thought exactly...

"You know what's REALLY missing from the AppleTV YouTube experience? ADVERTISING!"

Said no one, ever.

Now I get to stop watching YouTube on my Apple TV and only watch it on devices where I can cull the advertising. Thanks a farking lot!

 

[firsmith]

Well this is a step in the right direction. Hopefully they'll update the Netflix app soon. That thing is so far behind compared to all of the Apple TV competitors.

I always feel like there's a ton of movies you'll never find unless you search specifically for them.

 

[c.s.]

So how do you think they should get paid?

I think the best solution would just be limiting ads to 15 seconds.

I gladly paid Apple $25/year so I can listen to iTunes radio without ads. I would do the same for YouTube. Give people the option to pay $25/year for ad-free youtube. I've heard 1 million youtube views generates $10K. That's 1 cent per view. I'm happy to pay the penny directly and not watch the ads.

 

[drewsof07]

I mean, most videos you watch are probably funded by earnings from advertisements. Same with television.

I guess I should've been more specific - VIDEO advertisements. There are loads of other ways to generate ad revenue (that I completely support) besides interrupting the content you came to watch. Facebook and twitter are fine examples. If you stumble on an ad you don't care about, the screen doesn't pause for 5 seconds in the middle of scrolling your feed...

 

[dannyyankou]

I gladly paid Apple $25/year so I can listen to iTunes radio without ads. I would do the same for YouTube. Give people the option to pay $25/year for ad-free youtube. I've heard 1 million youtube views generates $10K. That 1 cent per view. I'm happy to pay the penny directly and not watch the ads.

So you think it should become a subscription service? I wouldn't mind that.
Or not even a subscription service. They could have premium accounts that remove ads.

They also recently allowed people to put a donate button under people's videos, so that's a good way they can make money as well.

 

[phillipduran]

YAY! The previous interface was horrible and slow to navigate.

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Keep in mind that advertisements are how youtube creators get paid. If you have Adblock enabled, they don't get paid for those views.

OK, but adblock stays. If they cant sustain their channel with my adblock turned on, then I'm OK with them stopping what they are providing. I like Youtube because it is there and simple. Make it difficult or annoying, I'll go elsewhere or stop viewing it. I have no agreement or obligation to youtube video producers and they have none to me.

 

[MadGoat]

lol, priceless! You spend your time watching videos, they spend their time making videos. That's what.

These are hobbyists, why should they expect to get paid for a hobby?

 

[neongrau]

I guess i keep using Safari on my iPhone to browse at youtube.com and then AirPlay. Never seen an ad that way. And i never liked the navigation on the atv youtube app (same for vevo and others).

 

[Sandstorm]

Video Advertisements. Ugh.

 

[Traverse]

I'm not averse to ads as a concept; don't get me wrong. However, I loathe the ad decisions YouTube makes on behalf of its content creators, especially when the same damn automobile ad or extended movie trailer is played over and over before every video.

Or when flash messes up at the end of an ad (or the video doesn't load) and you have to refresh the page and the ad starts over...it's almost not worth it.

 

[pogoyoyo]

It's funny how the video neglects to mention ad's.
RIP youtube on my Apple tv. Piece of *****.
This isn't an update, I wish I could prevent this.

 

[ohsnaphappy]

You're not supposed to say things like this, but Steve Jobs would have never allowed these ads. Apple TV was the only ad free YouTube option in existence thanks to Steve

 

[Frankied22]

I gladly paid Apple $25/year so I can listen to iTunes radio without ads. I would do the same for YouTube. Give people the option to pay $25/year for ad-free youtube. I've heard 1 million youtube views generates $10K. That's 1 cent per view. I'm happy to pay the penny directly and not watch the ads.

That's what YouTube Music Key is for. $9.99 a month and you get Google Music All Access (which is essentially Spotify) and ad-free YouTube. Plus you get background youtube videos and you can download youtube videos.

 

[MrXiro]

Well this is a step in the right direction. Hopefully they'll update the Netflix app soon. That thing is so far behind compared to all of the Apple TV competitors.

That's on Netflix's end not Apple's Each channel is updated and manged by maker. They just need to follow Apple's Specs. So until Apple changes the entire modified Front Row design don't expect much changes throughout.

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That's what YouTube Music Key is for. $9.99 a month and you get Google Music All Access (which is essentially Spotify) and ad-free YouTube. Plus you get background youtube videos and you can download youtube videos.

$9.99 a month is a LOT more than $25 a year... I actually find that pricing a bit high for music subscriptions. Netflix can be had for $7.99 and Amazon Prime for 99 a year, both those things hold a lot more value to me. Maybe I just hold movies to a higher regard than music.

 

[Frankied22]

That's on Netflix's end not Apple's Each channel is updated and manged by maker. They just need to follow Apple's Specs. So until Apple changes the entire modified Front Row design don't expect much changes throughout.

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$9.99 a month is a LOT more than $25 a year... I actually find that pricing a bit high for music subscriptions. Netflix can be had for $7.99 and Amazon Prime for 99 a year, both those things hold a lot more value to me. Maybe I just hold movies to a higher regard than music.

Beats, Rdio, and Spotify are all $9.99 a month. Of course, Rdio and Spotify offer $5 a month for students and they also have family plans which are a little cheaper.

 

[MacAddict1978]

Unless they put an App Store on the Apple TV Plex will probably never have an app because it's not a huge contender and it allows you to do what Apple doesn't want you to do - watch your own movies on the Apple TV without renting them from the iTunes store. Apple probably doesn't even know what Plex is.

You can watch your own movies, but they need to be in a format playable by iTunes. You just have to copy or save them to the movies folder, and then the apple tv connects to your computer to stream them.

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Clarification: the movies folder in iTunes, not the Movie folder on your mac. Unless they changed that and I missed it.

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That's on Netflix's end not Apple's Each channel is updated and manged by maker. They just need to follow Apple's Specs. So until Apple changes the entire modified Front Row design don't expect much changes throughout.

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$9.99 a month is a LOT more than $25 a year... I actually find that pricing a bit high for music subscriptions. Netflix can be had for $7.99 and Amazon Prime for 99 a year, both those things hold a lot more value to me. Maybe I just hold movies to a higher regard than music.

Actually, Apple put a lot into the development of the Netflix app on ATV, which is what makes is vastly different from even other versions of Netflix apps that were around at the time. Apple demanded it follow their same flow and design as the rest of the ATV. That was also before they began adding other apps....

I agree on the streaming subscription pricing.

I feel like all these ala carte subscriptions really cost more than cable in the end. It's a rough balance. I'm waiting for cable to ditch their music channels for an on demand service in the future....

 

[DaveN]

It's not 2007 anymore, content quality has gotten a lot better. A lot of videos cost thousands of dollars to make.

I thought that you may be finding something that I am not so I went to YouTube. Here is what is popular now:

nope 2, time 2:45
Oprah vs Ellen. Epic Rap Battles of History Season 4, time 2:49
John Wall speechless after 20T win over Celtics, time 1:04
Victoria's Secret Angels Lip Syne "Shake it Off", time 2:28

I'm sorry but I can't see any of those costing thousands of dollars to make. None of those interest me. The videos I do watch are homemade videos of people on their camping and hiking trips. I watch them for ideas on places to go and things to do. People do those as a hobby and to show their friends. I doubt that they see any money from Google as most have a few hundred views.

 

[kds1]

You can watch your own movies, but they need to be in a format playable by iTunes. You just have to copy or save them to the movies folder, and then the apple tv connects to your computer to stream them.

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Clarification: the movies folder in iTunes, not the Movie folder on your mac. Unless they changed that and I missed it.

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Actually, Apple put a lot into the development of the Netflix app on ATV, which is what makes is vastly different from even other versions of Netflix apps that were around at the time. Apple demanded it follow their same flow and design as the rest of the ATV. That was also before they began adding other apps....

I agree on the streaming subscription pricing.

I feel like all these ala carte subscriptions really cost more than cable in the end. It's a rough balance. I'm waiting for cable to ditch their music channels for an on demand service in the future....

Actually you can just drag your own movies into iTunes in the Movies section and they will show up on the AppleTV (provided of course that they are in the right format), under Computer>Home Videos.

 

[dannyyankou]

I thought that you may be finding something that I am not so I went to YouTube. Here is what is popular now:

nope 2, time 2:45
Oprah vs Ellen. Epic Rap Battles of History Season 4, time 2:49
John Wall speechless after 20T win over Celtics, time 1:04
Victoria's Secret Angels Lip Syne "Shake it Off", time 2:28

I'm sorry but I can't see any of those costing thousands of dollars to make. None of those interest me. The videos I do watch are homemade videos of people on their camping and hiking trips. I watch them for ideas on places to go and things to do. People do those as a hobby and to show their friends. I doubt that they see any money from Google as most have a few hundred views.

And after a 30 second Google search, I found out that it costs Maker Studios (the largest network on YouTube that was recently bought by Disney) about $1,000 per video.

Sure, the stuff you watch may be cheap. But there's plenty of cheap television content as well and people make money off it (i.e. Honey Boo Boo, 16 and pregnant, etc.)

 

[MrXiro]

Beats, Rdio, and Spotify are all $9.99 a month. Of course, Rdio and Spotify offer $5 a month for students and they also have family plans which are a little cheaper.

Yeah I find them all too expensive... $4.99 a month is a reasonable sweet spot IMO. When I can get hours of movies and TV shows for less money. Or heck WWE Network for the same amount of money paid streaming service over IP seems too pricey. But I mean, what's worth more to me might not be worth as much to you. 9.99 is just a little less than what I used to pay for Satellite Radio but I had Howard Stern and a plethora of talk radio to listen to as well. I think for this stuff to be worth my 9.99 they should have live "podcasts" and more things to listen to than just studio recorded music I can buy off the shelf.

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You can watch your own movies, but they need to be in a format playable by iTunes. You just have to copy or save them to the movies folder, and then the apple tv connects to your computer to stream them.

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Clarification: the movies folder in iTunes, not the Movie folder on your mac. Unless they changed that and I missed it.

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Actually, Apple put a lot into the development of the Netflix app on ATV, which is what makes is vastly different from even other versions of Netflix apps that were around at the time. Apple demanded it follow their same flow and design as the rest of the ATV. That was also before they began adding other apps....

I agree on the streaming subscription pricing.

I feel like all these ala carte subscriptions really cost more than cable in the end. It's a rough balance. I'm waiting for cable to ditch their music channels for an on demand service in the future....

I understand, that is why I said they have to follow Apple's Specs. But ultimately it IS Netflix that is making the app not Apple.
I worked at Sony's Crackle for a minute and saw some of the process of how it's done.

 

[luckysob]

Fix the Remote App

Until I can use the Remote App again on iOS 7.1.2 and connect to my Apple TV, the stupid thing is sitting there unplugged.

 

[DaveN]

And after a 30 second Google search, I found out that it costs Maker Studios (the largest network on YouTube that was recently bought by Disney) about $1,000 per video.

Sure, the stuff you watch may be cheap. But there's plenty of cheap television content as well and people make money off it (i.e. Honey Boo Boo, 16 and pregnant, etc.)

Sure there is plenty of cheap television content and people making money on it but I find very little YouTube content that is worth even watching an ad to see. Here is an example. I searched for Maker Studios in YouTube to see what they are putting out. This is the first one I watched Kandeeland which is a video blog with this woman in front of some hanging cloth background doing a too long monologue on why she hasn't been doing very many monologues recently

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ36iGS80c_eSHCUT43-PSg

If that cost $1000, someone was ripped off. By the way, 61,761 views in one week. Really quite impressive considering it is a complete waste of time. To each his own. I'll stick to the hiking videos that get 400 views in two years. It goes to show you, it is all about marketing.

 

[machpost]

A couple more things: You can no longer add a video to your Favorites, and you can no longer see more than a handful of other videos from a particular user while you're watching one of their videos. This update takes away more functionality than it adds

 

[TsMkLg068426]

So if ads are welcome to the new Youtube on Apple TV does this mean I can finally access the free movies streaming on Youtube? This would make sense to have ads now, plus Youtube streaming music also.

 

[MrXiro]

A couple more things: You can no longer add a video to your Favorites, and you can no longer see more than a handful of other videos from a particular user while you're watching one of their videos. This update takes away more functionality than it adds

Sounds like Final Cut Pro X! Zing!