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Even though it might not be the answer you are hoping for, but with something like "VisualHub" or "Crunch" or I believe Roxio has a new conversion software out there, it's really easy to convert even large collections to a proper AppleTV/iPod selection. This, to me at least, is preferable, as I believe the Apple Entertainment family is only ever expanding, and H.264 is nice for me.

Will there be image quality loss after the converson process? Will the apple tv still output it in an HD resolution?
 
Not a big fan of youtube video, but they do look good on a 65" 1080i Pioneer Elite. Given how videos I have looked at on youtube tend to be somewhat blocky, they must be re-encoding from "master" uploads that are higher quality.

A few other notes:
This update doesn't appear to bring 5.1. I checked the trailers and itunes movie previews and still only got Dolby ProLogic II decoding

How is you Apple TV switching to Dolby ProLogic II? Are you switching it from stereo to ProLogic II or is your system doing this on it's own?

What are you using for an receiver? I'm using a 50" 1080P Pioneer Elite and I noticed that Apple TV is now using 720P by default, do you think 720P is better than 1080i (of course in my perfect world it would be in 1080p).
 
AppleTV is outputting whatever signal it outputs via the optical cable. The Receiver- an Onkyo 804- is producing Pro-Logic II as "best option". This pretty much means, AppleTV is still outputing a stereo signal.

My older Pioneer Elite TV can't do 1080p, and it upscales 720p to 1080i. I've tried setting AppleTV to 720p to see if the TV does a better job with the upscaling, but that doesn't even render a picture. So, my only choice (for HD output options) is 1080i.
 
Over the next week and a half we'll find out what the other four spaces will be filled by. ;)

Or more than four... flick to scroll :)

Additional functions are sure to come in the months ahead--though probably not before launch.

If it gets beyond one screenload, I'd like a way to re-order the icons to my liking.
 
Youtube - Not all of it immediately, but that's not such a big deal

Safari - Nice but not great without Flash, or Perian plug ins for compatibility

Dashboard - Crippled (so far at least) because its ONLY APPLE WIDGETS!

Hopefully Google docs will play nice...

Thanks for the buzz-kill, psychofreak!

To the crippled Dashboard, add web-apps for iPhone...

But I still can't believe they didn't include flash!

-Clive
 
This is a bit off topic, but I see it misquoted so often that it should be mentioned here. There is no such thing as a "1080i" Plasma/LCD/DLP HDTV.

They're all either 720p (some are technically 768p) or 1080p depending on what the native resolution of the particular set is. All Plasma/LCD/DLP sets are progressive scan, they aren't interlaced displays like old CRT TVs used to be.

A 720p HDTV will always downconvert an incoming 1080i signal and output it in 720p, and a 1080p HDTV will always deinterlace a 1080i signal and output it in 1080p. Also, a 1080p HDTV will always upscale a 720p signal and output it in 1080p. In other words, your HDTV will always output (what you actually see) in it's native progressive scan resolution.
 
AppleTV is outputting whatever signal it outputs via the optical cable. The Receiver- an Onkyo 804- is producing Pro-Logic II as "best option". This pretty much means, AppleTV is still outputing a stereo signal.

My older Pioneer Elite TV can't do 1080p, and it upscales 720p to 1080i. I've tried setting AppleTV to 720p to see if the TV does a better job with the upscaling, but that doesn't even render a picture. So, my only choice (for HD output options) is 1080i.

Are you sure your tv can accept 720P? My Pioneer doesn't, so my only option is 1080i as well...
 
Gps?

Hmmm, could it be that Apple already have included a GPS chip in the phone and just to be able to make a big splash when people begin to whine about no GPS? They basically just had to add the software in an update just like they did with 802.11n for MBP to get it flying.
Google maps calls for a full out GPS capabilities. The sales instruction manuals lame excuse for no GPS could be a tease.
 
This definitely puts the final nail in the coffin for many corporate folks trying to get one for work. (If the recent WSJ articles weren't already bad enough).

That article bugged me. The "We prefer proprietary closed solutions and don't want no open Internet standards" cr@p has got to go.
 
I don't know what the problem is but the update will not download on my Apple TV!

It just sits there and the little white circle thing just keeps spinning...

How long did the update take for the people that downloaded it and got it to work?

Sam

You don't happen to be one of the people that installed a haxie on the :apple: TV are you ?

Glad to see that Apple is actually upgrading the product (albeit in small doses) before it even hits stores.

All I'm reallllllly clamoring for is a chance to actually use that keyboard, because I'm very very curious. Demo model in Apple store please, and a sharp stick to fight off the lust-filled mob.

This could be good or bad depending on your perspective. It Could be because Apple isn't finished with the product yet.
 
Hmm, it sure would be necessary to compress the video before sending it. Preferably in H.264. It already takes an hour for a 5 minute clip on my Macbook, I don't know if the iPhone can handle it.

The iPhone has embedded H.264 decoder hardware (making it more efficient on the battery to decode than Flash). A few months ago there was a rumor that Apple was securing a large order of chips that did both decode and encode of H.264.

If they put these chips in the iPhone and easily integrated YouTube uploads into the iPhone -- that would be a game changer.
 
Lancetx, my Pioneer Elite is a CRT. It's specs are maxed out at 1080i. A few years ago, CRT HD sets were still state of the art, and this was one of them.

JimmDean, not for sure, I'm going on what I think I recall in the manual. I think I recall that if I hook up a 720p source, the TV has built in upscaling to convert it to 1080i. However, when I put AppleTV in 720p mode, this didn't happen. It could be that the receiver (middle man) is not passing it through as 720p. I haven't made a direct connection between AppleTV and the TV.
 
when Viacom bought Youtube there was already outcries for all the Copyrighted Content up there. They started Yanking Daily Shows and Other Clips. Now that Apple is involved do you really think they'll be allowing episodes of the Family Guy and others online. I highly Doubt it.

I think you mean Google buying YouTube.

Google's goal appears to be to include advertising (either text or maybe embedded at the front of the video) and share the advertising revenue with the content creators (they already have some deals in place). If this happens on a wide scale and proves financially successful, then you will see a major change in attitude by the content creators (including amateurs).
 
No, I haven't done anything to my Apple TV, I don't use that much but I would love to have this update.

Reset your :apple: TV from the TV itself then re-sync it to your main computer.After thats done try the update again.It also could be the :apple: TV isnt configured correctly on your network.If you've ever turned it off.e.g. unplugging it. I've found that it helps to redo the network settings.
 
yawn... well this is nice to kill time, i think it would be more functional to have iChat. how can apple over look this feature.

Amen to that. I was really hoping for video iChat capability. After all, Leopard iChat has "Answering Machine" with either a recorded sound or video away message. I'm disappointed that was never pursued.
 
Hmmm, could it be that Apple already have included a GPS chip in the phone and just to be able to make a big splash when people begin to whine about no GPS? They basically just had to add the software in an update just like they did with 802.11n for MBP to get it flying.
Google maps calls for a full out GPS capabilities. The sales instruction manuals lame excuse for no GPS could be a tease.

I think the gps would really make the iphone the top smart phone out there. you cant be the top if your missing features that other phones have. the gps along w/ google maps would really make the iphone
 
Great to know that there is a hardware decode for H.264, not sure if this was previously known or not, but it just hit me.

No wonder the battery life is so good for video in general.
Kool.
:cool:
 
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