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This is great news. Can’t wait for this to come to the UK.

The regular subscription is too much for me, and I don’t need YouTube music as I have a Spotify sub.

YouTube without ads (Premium) was a dream during the 3 month trial I had.
 
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$8 a month, $100 a year for something that takes me like 8 seconds to skip per video. Love the idea but it’s just another shakedown in an endless list of shakedowns.

How are you skipping ads after 8 seconds? I’ve watched videos with some ads I can skip that quickly but I’ve had ads that took 45+ seconds before the skip option was available. I wish I could skip all ads after 8 seconds.
 
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Disabling background play for any of these features is just so scummy.

Also suspicious that they say "most videos"
Absolutely. It kills the whole thing.. But they know that. I'm so sick of subsidizing a music service that I don't use.
 
And the creators of the content you watch get nothing. You must be so proud.

It's always the ones who have never created or contributed anything of value that rationalize actions like this. Just take.
You mean the scumbags who do their own ads throughout their videos while I still continue to pay for premium which is not supposed to include ads? All content creators should be required to index the ad times and Youtube should have an option that is enabled by default to automatically skip those ad times. THATS WHAT I PAY FOR!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I can't believe they gate background play as a "feature"... it's a god darn system API free from Apple.
And Apple should lock it down without it being optional for developers! It's a cash grab as Apple.leaves the door wide open for developers to charge.

The API should simply allow always play in background.
 
And Apple should lock it down without it being optional for developers! It's a cash grab as Apple.leaves the door wide open for developers to charge.

The API should simply allow always play in background.
It used to work automatically, as if the web site didn't know whether or not it was in the background.

Then Apple removed this ability, presumably by passing on background status to the site, and Google gets to charge it for a feature. Google pays Apple a lot of money, too.

Apple could make it work again but they appear to be getting paid not to. Between adblock and background play, I only use youtube on my desktop.
 
I could tell some sort of YouTube subscription promotion was underway-- the ad load on Youtube is off the charts right now. Impossible to watch anything while they try to bully us into a plan like this.
 
How are you skipping ads after 8 seconds? I’ve watched videos with some ads I can skip that quickly but I’ve had ads that took 45+ seconds before the skip option was available. I wish I could skip all ads after 8 seconds.
Most if not all the videos I ever watch have an ad or two and one or if there are two can be skipped within about 8, possibly 10-12 seconds, some as soon as around 4 seconds. A few videos, longer ones have an ad midway through, same skip parameters. I have never seen a Youtube video where I had to watch any ad for 45 seconds before I could skip it.
 
I've been using this for a few weeks now (my free trial in Germany is coming to an end and I have to decide if it is worth 5.99€ a month). It works very well for me (mainly watching on TV or on my Mac). The ads were getting out of hand, generally 3 minutes of ads for 5 minutes of content on some videos. The worst I had was 360 minutes of ads for a 15 minute video (a long ad for some charity that ran for over 45 minutes per showing and it was shown every couple of minutes during the video, although it could be skipped after a minute or so).

I rarely watch music videos and I don't use downloads or background play, so the Premium price just wasn't worth it for me. The Lite version covers what I need and the price is just about on the border for me.
 
Most if not all the videos I ever watch have an ad or two and one or if there are two can be skipped within about 8, possibly 10-12 seconds, some as soon as around 4 seconds. A few videos, longer ones have an ad midway through, same skip parameters. I have never seen a Youtube video where I had to watch any ad for 45 seconds before I could skip it.
I regularly have ad-blocks with 2-4 ads which can be skipped after around 45 seconds (TV mainly, but also on my Mac).
 
I have been asking for something like this for YEARS. I have never been interested in their music service or "premium" content. I just wanted ad-free with no other gimmicks for $5/month. I don't consider PiP and background play gimmicks either. Those should be givens since those are native features of all browsers, but they purposefully disable them on mobile browsers. $8 would have been tolerable if not for leaving PiP and background play out of it. It's also really weird for them to say "most videos" and to list some specific categories of videos. I wonder what that leaves out, other than their "premium" content and music.

For me, it's too late now anyway. Ever since they seem to have permanently gotten around my content blocker in Safari, I just add videos to a playlist at the end of the day and download them directly to my Plex server where I have PiP, background play, and no ads. They'll never be getting my money or ad views at this point. Content creators will be fine since the majority of them have sponsorship anyway.
 
All I have to say to Google is:*

ETA: apparently I can’t put the middle finger emoji 🤣
 
PiP and background play are different. You can use YouTube in PiP mode on the free tier, while background play means still playing when completely closed.
This makes no sense. What’s the difference between pip and background play? How else would you play a video in the background without pip?
 
I’ve been running pihole for years and my understanding has been that dns related blockers like pihole and adguard cannot block YouTube ads and the only way to do this is through a browser extension, which would not work on an Apple TV. Is there something I’m missing?

To my knowledge, Pihole is only a DNS blocker, not a content blocker. Adguard blocks requests at the content level when the request is made to download the ad content, where Pihole does not have that capability to alter the HTML code directly and block the request.

That being said, Pihole can work on your entire network, whereas Adguard only blocks requests by browsers on the computer in which it's installed.
 
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This makes no sense. What’s the difference between pip and background play? How else would you play a video in the background without pip?
It's fully in the background, like closing the music app and turning off the screen, while still playing music. Background play is for using youtube but just playing the audio, for music, podcasts, etc.
 
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Soo...does anyone in the US actually see the option? I wanted to downgrade my Premium to Premium Lite, but it only gives me the option to upgrade to Family.
Me neither, updated the app today and yesterday but still don’t see it 🤔
 
Wow. What crap. lol. Definitely worth the few extra bucks to get zero ads.

Not if you don't watch music videos, or many music videos.

$6 less is significantly (an understatement, it's 42% less) cheaper if you just want no ads on most videos, which many people do.

This is not at all a 'crap' offer to people like me. What's 'crap' about being able to watch the majority of videos I do (around 98% NOT music videos) without ads and without being forced to pay for YouTube Music, something I don't need as a Spotify user. It's not much of an imposition to watch an ad on the occasional music video I watch.

I've been desperate for them to introduce a stripped-down Premium sub because the volume of adverts on mobile and TV (I use ad block on PC) has been driving me crazy. I won't be alone in that.
 
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Not if you don't watch music videos, or many music videos.

$6 less is significantly (an understatement, it's 42% less) cheaper if you just want no ads on most videos, which many people do.

This is not at all a 'crap' offer to people like me. What's 'crap' about being able to watch the majority of videos I do (around 98% NOT music videos) without ads and without being forced to pay for YouTube Music, something I don't need as a Spotify user. It's not much of an imposition to watch an ad on the occasional music video I watch.

I've been desperate for them to introduce a stripped-down Premium sub because the volume of adverts on mobile and TV (I use ad block on PC) has been driving me crazy. I won't be alone in that.
I don't listen to music on YouTube, but I do search for stuff. From the post I was replying to, it sounds like if you search for a video it will have ads. So all you can watch without ads is whatever the app chooses to show you.
 
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