YouTuber Claims 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Upgraded Core i9 Chip is Severely Throttled Due to Thermal Issues

[Derived]

This thread, quite literally, already has 4 different examples of peoples machines throttling

Quite literally, all laptops throttle under heavy load. Unsure as to how that's proof of anything at all other than that CPUs get hot.

The amount of childish handwringing & utter, incoherent nonsense that's already been posted on this garbage fire of a thread is truly beyond anything I'd expect see even in Youtube comments or on Reddit. Embarrassing. Not worth wasting any further time here, I see.

 

[yakapo]

Next gen intel cpus will be soldered. Better to wait.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-soldered-cpus-1-august

 

[Derived]

The same software running two identical intel chips (Except one has two new cores and thermal issues) is just suddenly going to develop issues on the new chip?

Several people here have commented that Premier is famous for doing this to CPUs. It's a more powerful chip capable of generating more heat....so...yes, any problems could be made worse.

So far we have proof of nothing...that people are already decrying all 15" MacBook Pros as defective garbage because of this is the height of insanity.

 

[Zellio]

Quite literally, all laptops throttle under heavy load. Unsure as to how that's proof of anything at all other than that CPUs get hot.

The amount of childish handwringing & utter, incoherent nonsense that's already been posted on this garbage fire of a thread is truly beyond anything I'd expect see even in Youtube comments or on Reddit. Embarrassing. Not worth wasting any further time here, I see.

Gotta run because you're noticing that people aren't going to mindlessly rah rah for Apple huh? And speaking of incoherent nonsense, you already spoke it yourself by saying there's only one example

 

[-BigMac-]

Why not look at the guys videos and check for yourself? He reviews a lot of laptops, it's his main thing reviewing laptops. He has reviewed in the past month alone an Acer, Asus, Lenovo, Razer and Alienware laptop.

His channel covers most things Apple releases but also many competing devices and as I say his main differential from the other YouTubers is that he reviews all manner of laptops from not just Apple. His laptop reviews are pretty good too, he goes into a lot of detail.

Well I'm at work and mentioned I'm not aware of what the videos are about Just seemed like the response didnt seem like it even acknowledged the original comment lol

 

[bkkcanuck8]

The last time? How about a first time? That's my first comment on this thread.

That also proves nothing...do you understand how physics works? If the software causes the CPU to heat up unnecessarily, of course cooling it down will improve performance. That doesn't change the fact that the software may be poorly designed in the first place.

Software ONLY makes the CPU heat up by actually utilizing it. What is the use of having a beefy CPU if you cannot utilize it? (i.e. all core utilization to 600% is full utilization - you should be able to get there at 2.9Ghz (+/- a little)). Software cannot just heat up the CPU by itself.

 

[fate0311]

Quite literally, all laptops throttle under heavy load. Unsure as to how that's proof of anything at all other than that CPUs get hot.

The amount of childish handwringing & utter, incoherent nonsense that's already been posted on this garbage fire of a thread is truly beyond anything I'd expect see even in Youtube comments or on Reddit. Embarrassing. Not worth wasting any further time here, I see.

We share a similar perception, however you are a bit ignorant to think your surrounded by physicists.

 

[Maschil]

Also, hating on Apple is easy and is guaranteed views and subscribers and money.

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People with your mentality, allow Apple to make compromises they have no business making on high end laptops.

 

[macpcf]

Dave Lee is actually the second video/user to show the throttling. This guy found the exact same thing. Skip to 4:40, when the carnage starts.

I am wondering, is this i9 specific issue or the performance is similar for the i7 6 core model as well.

 

[IG88]

As always, there are people that instantly write comments dismissing this and/or defending Apple. I really don’t see the need in doing so in this case.

Apple stock holders.

 

[danwat1234]

There isn't a laptop on god's green earth that doesn't throttle under continuous, heavy load. I'm quite confused as to how this is an "Apple problem" instead of a "laptop problem" - assuming this test is even a relative data point.

You are wrong, some do, some don't. It is clear the Macbook throttles very hard, it cannot come close to adequately cool the chip. At least MSI GS65VR, Gigabyte Aero 15x with the 8750h come close to keeping full clocks at full load and can maintain clocks if u slightly undervolt. This could help the Macbook too.

Just use your brain. Thin laptop. Quiet laptop. i9. Heavy throttling, duh.

 

[fate0311]

This is odd, my i9 throttles heavily for Tori Black but not for Riley Reid.

Would this be a software issue or a hardware issue?

 

[cfdlab]

Spotting many ostriches in this thread.

 

[bkkcanuck8]

Show data.

Also, are you using Final Cut Pro? Final Cut Pro is much much much more efficient on the Mac hardware. The same cannot be said of Adobe Premiere. You can use Final Cut Pro without pegging the CPU for the same use cases.

 

[macpcf]

Will the 6-Core i7 run cooler than the i9 or about the same?

Thats the question i have in mind. I am thinking about buying the i7 6 score if it performs better

 

[albebaubles]

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Article Link: YouTuber Claims 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Upgraded Core i9 Chip is Severely Throttled Due to Thermal Issues

Yup if I put one of those freezer bag things under my 2017mbp it performs much much better.

 

[geromi912]

Yes, I always thought it was funny when people pushing that - saying an eGPU and a laptop would be fine... but an eGPU is not mobile so to effectively work you really are bound to a desk... and a desktop is the better solution... It is also the same people that said that Apple should go with nVidia 1080Ti option... well a 1080Ti as an eGPU is effectively the same performance as an AMD 580 in a PCIe slot. In the end, it is all about what works for your workflow. People are irrational by nature. For me, regardless of whether it thermal throttles (about anything would at my ambient room temperature; I would now freeze at North American room temps) -- it would be much more powerful than my 8-core Mac Pro from 2008 (CPU)... which I might have damaged by running it 7/24 for 6 months straight with both CPUs pegged (800% utilization)... I won't be doing that on a laptop (I will probably make my next Linux machine the more powerful of my computers with my Mac being just "reasonably powerful").

People want a 1080ti in a Mac Pro tower. Not a ****ing laptop.

 

[Miltz]

This Video Confirms similar findings when using Final Cut pro too... It's slower in Final Cut too. So it has nothing to do with Adobe software. I guess Apple Finally hit a Thermal Wall when it comes to ultra slim and heat dissipation. I would definitely NOT get the i9 version of this laptop, it's waste since the cooler can't handle the CPU. I think Apple felt the pressure to update the MacBooks Pro models to shut everyone up, but didn't really need to from a real world performance standpoint. I'm sure they tested it and Know it throttles so much under long load periods. Not good news

 

[bkkcanuck8]

6.3 Million.



Look at any big YouTuber with lots of subscribers and you will never see even 50% of their subscriber numbers in views. PewDiePie has over 50 million subs his videos get 2-4 million views. Casey Neistat has 10 Million subs, gets about 1-2 Million views.

Linus has 6.3 Million subscribers and gets about 800K to 1.2 Million viewers per video when the content is not sponsored rubbish (which more and more of his videos are).

Just because someone subscribes doesn't mean they are going to watch every video that YouTuber publishes. It just doesn't work that way just like how this forum may have 200,000 signed up users but only a small percentage view threads and post each month.

Yes, I subscribe to probably 15 channels.... but I don't watch every video on there. the 6.3 million are all that ever subscribed - many could be people that lost interest but don't log into Youtube enough to unsubscribe (and there will be many of those over 5 to 10 years).

 

[Royksöpp]

Besides reading Geekbench scores and ooing and ahhing when they unbox products, how much power do Youtubers actually need? I mean seriously, a 4K review? What’s the point of that? Most browsers and products don’t even support it. How many of these people actually create professional work? Apple reviews are generally a dime a dozen. It’s the stunt queens (Everything Apple Pro) that get the most views and they typically have the worst content. The rest are all exactly the same, only with slight variances. I’d take these guys claims with a grain of salt. They were most likely outputting way more data than necessary.

 

[fate0311]

Also, are you using Final Cut Pro? Final Cut Pro is much much much more efficient on the Mac hardware. The same cannot be said of Adobe Premiere. You can use Final Cut Pro without pegging the CPU for the same use cases.

Microsoft Excel but [insert trump voice here] many many huge spreadsheets.

 

[bkkcanuck8]

People want a 1080ti in a Mac Pro tower. Not a ****ing laptop.

Yes and no, I have seen many complaining they want an eGPU and so they can use a ****ing nVidia card. I keep on telling them eGPUs are for situations where there is no better alternative ... i.e. laptops only.

 

[dantroline]

glad I didn't get that one...

I've kind of learnt that the sweet spot for value for money for Mac hardware is not to be found in the top tier.

 

[geromi912]

Yes and no, I have seen many complaining they want an eGPU and so they can use a ****ing nVidia card. I keep on telling them eGPUs are for situations where there is no better alternative ... i.e. laptops only.

Because Apple won’t make a proper desktop.

 

[JamieLannister]

Well obviously this isn't the fault of apple! Anything that can be wrong is never the fault of apple. Haven't these fans learned?

1) It's a MBP - should be used only for web surfing, forum trolling, and looking up nonsense like when a new mac mini is to be released. It should NEVER be used to do anything remotely professional on it.

2) It uses an INTEL coffee lake processor. What do you expect from their current cpu node fabrication? It's heat monster and this happens to the 9570 dell as well.

3) You can't undervolt a mac in macos. Sad because the entire OS is a piece of dung. On the 9570 you can undervolt and actually gain some good performance metrics.

4) We only care about how thin the laptop will be. How thin the keyboard is regardless of how bad one can type on it. We don't even care if it performs at maximum because no one in their right mind buys a mbp for real work. You work on a desktop class machine for real grunt work, not some thin aluminum lid and expect it to perform like a desktop. In fact these buyers only care if the damn thing doesn't make noise. Why make noise even if it were to cool the cpu?

5) Never let an industrial designer design a real computer. In their mind the laptop would be a sheet of glass that has no buttons, ports, or display. It is magically powered by magic crystals the size of rice grains.

The only reason this is becoming a concern is because you paid up your butt-ocks for something so ridiculously designed for everything but professional use. It hurts to spend so much more money on something that is basically held back by poorly thermal designed laptop - and that is all apple's own fault!