Should Apple have included a liquid nitrogen cooling option? Your thoughts? I guess you could just leave it in the fridge and use a wireless mouse, keyboard, and airplay the display.
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YouTuber Claims 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Upgraded Core i9 Chip is Severely Throttled Due to Thermal Issues
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But hey! according to Mr. TimmeyChocolateCookie a.k.a "the smoke dispenser", the board is pure "porn", also "Air paths unrestricted" remember? You guys were liking the post. The "porn" is being made with the consumers blindly buying these mediocre machines.
And yes of course Intel should be ashamed, but Apple as the richest company in the tech industry still depending on them is equal as lame.
Finally, Dave Lee's work is very respected, if you think this guy is an Apple hater you are in total denial or have little to none knowledge of his work, it's entirely the opposite, as many we love Apple but Cook era is ruining the Mac line big time and it's sad that you as an Apple consumer can't realize facts for the common good.
And yes of course Intel should be ashamed, but Apple as the richest company in the tech industry still depending on them is equal as lame.
Finally, Dave Lee's work is very respected, if you think this guy is an Apple hater you are in total denial or have little to none knowledge of his work, it's entirely the opposite, as many we love Apple but Cook era is ruining the Mac line big time and it's sad that you as an Apple consumer can't realize facts for the common good.
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Well Duh. It's in the specs. What macbook ever runs below 50c?
The Intel Core i9-8950HK is a high-end processor for laptops with six cores based on the Coffee Lake architecture and was announced early 2018. The processor clocks at between 2.9- 4.8 GHz (4.3 GHz with 6 cores) and can execute up to twelve threads simultaneously thanks to Hyper-Threading. The 4.8 GHz can only be reached using the "Thermal Velocity Boost" which allows one core to boost to 4.8 GHz (+200 MHz) as long as the CPU temperature is below 50°C. Multiple cores can be boosted +100 MHz below 50°C.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i9-8950HK-SoC.279270.0.html
The Intel Core i9-8950HK is a high-end processor for laptops with six cores based on the Coffee Lake architecture and was announced early 2018. The processor clocks at between 2.9- 4.8 GHz (4.3 GHz with 6 cores) and can execute up to twelve threads simultaneously thanks to Hyper-Threading. The 4.8 GHz can only be reached using the "Thermal Velocity Boost" which allows one core to boost to 4.8 GHz (+200 MHz) as long as the CPU temperature is below 50°C. Multiple cores can be boosted +100 MHz below 50°C.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i9-8950HK-SoC.279270.0.html
Welcome to the new Intel. This has been happening for a while. Carefully chosen benchmarks highlighting potential speed gains during brief bursts of use. Specs nowadays pretty much amount to fraud.
Intel publishes detailed info on their processors. It's Apple's fault if their cooling doesn't meet the requirements.
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Ouch. Lol, my MBP often runs at 100˚C under max load.
It's almost like Apple is building high-end machines for spec chasers instead of people who want actual performance. That would be an unusually cynical move for Apple.
I mean all the crying about 32GB RAM was up there in the realm of spec chasing.
The logic board and battery layout looks identical to the 2016/2017 models so I don't see why they cannot retrofit those machines with the 2018 silicone keyboard when 2017 supplies are exhausted in a few years.
Newsflash: Adobe sucks at optimizing their software for Mac since like CS2.
pls keep us updated with your technology upgrades with pics and tips.
It’s Apples fault for trying to put a fast cpu in a thin laptop instead of separating them into two pieces, a MacMini and a MacBook.
Apple have always chosen style over substance. The current Mac Pro is woefully undercooled. The thermal core design was great on paper but terrible in the field. Our 6-core machine currently has a six-inch fan fixed to the top and a desk fan pointed at it whenever we do processing. Just shuts down if it gets too hot.
Some of it was that but most of it is wanting a machine that is somewhat future-proof especially when spending the same amount of money. They ended going with standard DDR4 so I'm pissed that they didn't just do this back in 2016 from the beginning. Had LPDDR4 been finally supported by Coffee Lake I wouldn't really care that much.
Here are my results while rendering an intense 3D scene with Lightwave3D. Single core and multi core. Would also like to point out my houses AC was blowing directly on to my MacBookPro when this test was performed. So quite cool ambient temps.
Now, it is throttling, but about as much as every laptop with a high-end CPU in it.
2018, 15" i9, 32GB, 1TB.
Now, it is throttling, but about as much as every laptop with a high-end CPU in it.
2018, 15" i9, 32GB, 1TB.
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If you follow the gaming notebook forums much at all you'll see that the 6-core 8th gen chips are very difficult to cool properly even in much thicker frames than the MacBook Pro offers. Seriously, the Notebookreview forums are full of people upset that monstrous gaming notebooks aren't able to cool these chips properly, especially if there's a discrete GPU also pumping heat into the system.
As soon as I saw that these Macs had been released with these new CPUs I started wondering what kind of cooling magic Apple might have worked to make it possible. The answer seems to be: none. The laws of physics are the laws of physics and if these chips run hot in 1"+ thick systems with massive heatsinks and fans, what chance do they have in something as thin as a MacBook Pro?
As soon as I saw that these Macs had been released with these new CPUs I started wondering what kind of cooling magic Apple might have worked to make it possible. The answer seems to be: none. The laws of physics are the laws of physics and if these chips run hot in 1"+ thick systems with massive heatsinks and fans, what chance do they have in something as thin as a MacBook Pro?
It has nothing to do with optimization. The rendering time went from 40 min to 27 min after he put it in a freezer. It's a thermal issue.
Not at all surprised. This isn’t just Apple. The entire 8th gen hex and quad mobile line from Intel is fraud, in my humble opinion. There isn’t a laptop on the market that can sustain the turbo clock speeds, from the 8750H all the way down to 8250U. Razer, Dell, Asus, Lenovo, MSI all suffer from thermal and power limits.
This wasn’t the case for 7th gen. My old Blade with the 7700HQ could sustain its turbo clocks on all 4 cores during Prime 95.
This wasn’t the case for 7th gen. My old Blade with the 7700HQ could sustain its turbo clocks on all 4 cores during Prime 95.
If this is true? What's the point of spending the extra $300 for the Core i9 when it performs worse than the i7?
Not surprised at all. Apple has had lots of issues with thermal throttling in the past. Unfortunately Apple just cares more about thinness than functionality. It's a shame, really.
But according to people here, you are not an YouTube with a gazillion of subscribers, so your results don't matter.
Totally dropping the ball. Too many compromises on too many products. Bring the magic back, Tim!