YouTuber Claims 15-Inch MacBook Pro With Upgraded Core i9 Chip is Severely Throttled Due to Thermal Issues

[zshane1125]

i hate people like you as much as people who update twitter feeds at starbucks; both of you guys bring equal amount to the conversation - 0
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now do 15

but honestly, this looks great. my 2012 does it a little better (0,1ghz above the base freq, but 0,1 below isnt bad at all.)

I ran it for 20 min straight, same results.

Here is Cinebench

 

[IllIllIll]

Who the h wants to work for a company that's looking to sue and imprison it's own employees at every turn?

Who the h wants to buy products made by a company that's looking to sue and imprison it's own employees at every turn?

 

[Evangeline]

SMC fan control should always be installed to change the insane defaults.

Yeah but then you'd have to open it up every 3 months to blow the dust out of it.

I don't think it's the fans, in my testing having them manually at 100% only delayed the inevitable. The CPU just dumps too much heat for the cooling system to handle. The fans go up to 100% eventually by themselves, but they are insufficient.

 

[Frank Dalton]

So instead of providing useful input that nobody else at Apple has thought of, you choose to stay quiet and continue buying their products. Got it.

It doesn't matter if anyone at Apple has thought of it or not. The problem is that they aren't doing anything about it.

 

[tyusrex]

Apple has boxed itself into a corner. The processors already ran too hot two revisions ago, and now they have no way of spec'ing further speed increases.

Meanwhile they will face even more pressure to spec even lighter and thinner designs from beta-boys who think a 3 lbs laptop is "too heavy."

 

[Ploki]

And, pray tell, how might your zero-tier contribution right here be any more valuable?

I tested my 2012 and posted several i9 related videos, but no cliched stereotypical "apple user hurrdurr" ********

 

[Donoban]

I just bought the 2018 i7. I wasn’t about to spend all that money on a i9. I think that’s just way too much horsepower in a laptop this size. There’s no way to properly cool it. That’s why Apple should have never even tried. One of their engineers should have piped up and said, “Hey dudes we can’t do this. This thing is either going to overheat or throttle like crazy. We will be called out.” That’s what I can’t get my head around. Don’t they have smarter people working for them? People with an ounce of common sense?

Oh god!

You really believe that was how the conversation inside Apple actually went?

Apple would get blasted for not releasing the i9 or get this kind of **** when they do.

Try this, create something perfect and put it out there into the world. Let us all know how you go.

 

[JPack]

The A11 also throttles under load in the iPhone X. You can't even do a single run of 3DMark before it throttles.

Apple's design considerations have always been:

1. Aesthetics
2. Thinness
   
3. Performance

 

[BJonson]

Will test and report back on new X1 Carbon it hates Chrome. I would have one tab open with nothing on it and it would show 9 open. Would also hog up memory and CPU usage. I think the MacBook with Safari things run properly.
Chrome alone would hog up 20% at minimum of the CPU usage with no tabs open. Open 8 tabs and it would show 21 tabs open and use 40-70% of CPU. After I uninstalled Chrome and restarted Laptop the CPU usage barely moved. At times it spiked up to 15% for no reason it seemed like.

Apple designs their computers with their OS and browsers to run at optimized performance. I look forward to getting my new MacBook Pro and returning this X1. Wanted to like it but it just has too many little bugs. The little vent on side blows out hot air with fan running like a little hair blow dryer.
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I think your chrome is playing a video in the tab or something. I have 6 windows open on my X1 and it shows 0 - 1% and my fans never come on. Mine is the 8650U.

 

[IllIllIll]

It doesn't matter if anyone at Apple has thought of it or not. The problem is that they aren't doing anything about it.

And they will continue to not do anything about it unless their sales numbers and financials start dropping. That's not happening.

 

[tyusrex]

Who the h wants to buy products made by a company that's looking to sue and imprison it's own employees at every turn?

I don't. I bought mine from a reseller. No profit for Apple!

 

[Frank Dalton]

I tested my 2012 and posted several i9 related videos, but no cliched stereotypical "apple user hurrdurr" ********

I specifically quoted a post and asked you, specifically, how *that post* contributes anything of value. Whining about other people making noise you don't like is hypocritical.

 

[cmaier]

Apple should have stuck a copper plate in instead of an extra battery cell, sounds like.

 

[Ploki]

I ran it for 20 min straight, same results.

Here is Cinebench

cinebench looks worse than the prime95 - less stable and more drops waaay below.

 

[tyusrex]

And they will continue to not do anything about it unless their sales numbers and financials start dropping. That's not happening.

Wrong. They are also facing multiple class action lawsuits.

 

[project_2501]

It's a combination of apple's enclosure being too small and Intel lying about their processor's specs.

er.. Apple should be testing their laptops before releasing them...

 

[jerwin]

Prime95 or type in Terminal:
yes > /dev/null & yes > /dev/null & yes > /dev/null & yes > /dev/null & yes > /dev/null & yes > /dev/null & yes > /dev/null & yes > /dev/null &

assuming you have 4 cores = 8 threads

killall yes

to quit

I realize that as I have a imac, and an older i5 to boot, and therefore my experience may be different, but Prime95 will
drive my temperature up to 100C, my power consumption to 72 W, and my frequency down to 3.2 Ghz

4 instances of yes will only consume 58 W, permit 3.7 Ghz turboboosting, and produce 95 C (which, in my case, is not enough to spin up the fan)

Prime95 is also a lot closer to how Adobe products use a CPU.

 

[Feenician]

Which version? The recent versions that use AVX workloads are largely ignored by the PC enthusiast camp because the AVX instructions are crazy power hungry. That gang still uses version 2.66, I believe.

v29.4, build 7. Downloaded it today.

 

[Frank Dalton]

And they will continue to not do anything about it unless their sales numbers and financials start dropping. That's not happening.

At least people are finally acknowledging the real issue: Tim Cook only cares about financials, not products.

 

[tyusrex]

er.. Apple should be testing their laptops before releasing them...

They run just fine displaying emoji's though.

 

[zshane1125]

More info:

Idles 45-50C
Geekbench SC 5300-5600, MC 22000-24000

 

[Flabasha]

Looks like the throttling is hitting the i7 2.6 as well. Must be this generation of chips in that thin enclosure...
https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-n...nd-clearly-beaten-by-the-XPS-15.317264.0.html

 

[jonnysods]

To be fair, this isn't so much Apple's fault as it is Intel's. Intel has really dropped the ball in the past couple of years. If they don't right the ship soon, AMD will take over the CPU game for a while. They are late with everything and are having lots of trouble shrinking the dies.

Not exactly. It's not supposed to be crammed into such a thin enclosure.

I'm sad. I wanted the i9 but this is a deal breaker.

 

[dspdoc]

Oh god!

You really believe that was how the conversation inside Apple actually went?

Apple would get blasted for not releasing the i9 or get this kind of **** when they do.

Try this, create something perfect and put it out there into the world. Let us all know how you go.

The entire point of my post apparently flew way over your head. There was NO NEED for an i9 in this enclosure. People would have been plenty happy with the latest i7. Apple could have dodged this bullet altogether.

 

[project_2501]

P
The only thing surprising is that the 2018 ended up being slower than 2017 laptops.