Facebook Home - who cares if your too lazy to launch the Facebook app, you have a problem....
use Siri to launch facebook if your lazy
use Siri to launch facebook if your lazy
I really can't help but think that Google made Android on a whim just to see if they could, as an experiment, without any clue about what they wanted to do with it. It would explain all the numerous business blunders they've made along the way. Really, I think other than their original search engine and ad service, everything they've done has been an experiment with no business plan.
I think you're being misleading. Or I haven't read what you have after googling what you asked. You said Google and other tech companies are just handing over data. Seems to me that it's not an entirely accurate statement. What sounds more accurate (and I admit to only reading a few links) is that they have/had access to ANYTHING going through ATT's pipes.
You realize the difference in semantics if this is the case. If the above premise is true - ATT is dumping everything. The individual companies aren't.
And based on this "In 2008, Congress took an unprecedented step granting the telecom companies retroactive immunity from any civil or criminal liability for its lawbreaking." it seems as though they didn't have to worry about Google and others claiming they (ATT) broke the law.
So - honestly - which is it. Is the the telco handing over everything regardless of 3rd party vendor - or are all these 3rd party vendors handing over data themselves to the FBI as you originally asserted?
Google can't do anything about it.
Only thing that Google can do is kick members who fork Android out of the OHA and deny Google services. And this is not a fork
Google is dumb for giving out Android for free. A few years later, competitors are now using it to create all kinds of problems for Google.
What is your distinction between AT&T and a "third-party vendor"? AT&T is a corporation that has certain data (packets of data sent over the internet, or correlations of cell phones with locations), Google and Apple and Facebook have different types of data (links and associations between users through their platforms, purchase history, search history, etc), etc. The commonality is that they are private corporations that are not REQUIRED to give ANY user data to the government without a court order. The fact is, they CHOOSE to give the government anything they ask for, including setting up a physical tap into the live data feed. So yes, as I originally asserted, each corporation is "cooperating" by handing over whatever data they control.
If nobody uses Facebook than why does the App Store Facebook page have 7.2 million likes?
https://www.facebook.com/AppStore
Why does Apple have an official Facebook Page with 8.9 Million Likes?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Apple-Inc/137947732957611
I really can't help but think that Google made Android on a whim just to see if they could, as an experiment, without any clue about what they wanted to do with it. It would explain all the numerous business blunders they've made along the way. Really, I think other than their original search engine and ad service, everything they've done has been an experiment with no business plan.
What is your distinction between AT&T and a "third-party vendor"? AT&T is a corporation that has certain data (packets of data sent over the internet, or correlations of cell phones with locations), Google and Apple and Facebook have different types of data (links and associations between users through their platforms, purchase history, search history, etc), etc. The commonality is that they are private corporations that are not REQUIRED to give ANY user data to the government without a court order. The fact is, they CHOOSE to give the government anything they ask for, including setting up a physical tap into the live data feed. So yes, as I originally asserted, each corporation is "cooperating" by handing over whatever data they control.
Seriously?! Boy, maybe my iPhone 5 is defective.
Or, maybe you are completely and utterly confused....
There is NO iOS Flashlight app which works in the background. NONE (unless you jailbreak, which I don't want to do on my iPhone, as I have to be OS current).
This is fact.
Google did not hand data to government. Prove me otherwise with a source if you can.
Zuckerberg: "Of course, a lot of people also love iPhonesI love mine, and I would like to be able to deliver Facebook Home there as well.
So the phone he loves so much isn't even an Android phone AND he won't be able to use his own product. LOL. Nice.![]()
You haven't shown anything that proves anyone but ATT has done this.
You can keep posting long comments and repeating yourself. Maybe you should just post simple evidence. A specific link that shows Google, Apple or Facebook has willingly given private information to the government without a warrant.
The problem I have with your assertion is that there is a BIG difference. Giving access to the "pipe" is not the same as Google, Apple, Facebook, etc handing over information. Definitely not willingly.
Next thing to go down: Google+
And Phil Shiller will delete Facebook app from his iPhone.
Google's stock is up over $200 over that last year.
Apple's stock is down over $200 over the last year.
I don't think investors see it the same way as you do.
Google's Blog (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/01/transparency-report-what-it-takes-for.html) shows that Google provided at least "some data" in around 85% of those warrantless cases.
So the source is Google itself. Hope that helps.
Next thing to go down: Google+
And Phil Shiller will delete Facebook app from his iPhone.
See above for willingly handing over information.
I can't do all the reasearch for you. There are too many instances known and many more that are unknown. I have provided enough information to substantiate my initial statement that anyone who thinks Google (or any other corporation) isn't willingly handing over information to the government without a warrant is naive.
Those things depend on the user. I can't use an Android phones keyboard at all and never use the input/outputs that iOS gives me (except for the headphones). You may do though. That means it's a subjective user experience.
Someone is going to have to help me with this. I don't see where you're getting that google provided at least some data in around 85% of WARRANTLESS cases. I only see how it adds up to releasing SOME data for WARRANTED or other which isn't defined (but only a fraction of the requests).
What am I missing Scoobydoo99?
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I said Google and all other tech companies. Just Google "Room 641a" for the AT&T - NSA partnership that gave NSA a secure internet traffic interception facility within AT&T property. In that case, an NSA Director estimated that 10 to 20 such facilities had been installed throughout the US. And that's just what they admit to publicly. This is not conspiracy theory - it is well documented in court filings and was featured on Frontline. You can assume hey have many, many such data mining arrangements that we don't know about. Government and corporations are completely intertwined. Don't think they aren't intercepting, logging, and data mining everything you do electronically.
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Totally right. I lump Apple in there too.