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Zune HD
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It's not an awful product, it's just not a very good one, it's a rather bad prodcut. And it's not a failed product, it's very nearly a failed product, it has a measly 4% while the ipod has 71% and sandisk 11%. Things at ms and zune are as ugly as balmer's bold head recently.
Good idead for the skype and ms zune, might make this trite product some sort of....well it might provide some utility.
Apple already allow voip on the iphone with skype app.
Completely crazy - I'll stick to whoever sells me the cheapest flash stick with a headphone socket then
I still haven't heard an answer why its a "bad product".
Nor is it failed. is the xbox a failed product? Took damn near 7 years to turn a profit and to gain a foothold. MS has money to to bully their way in a market they had nothing in.
If w were going off your percentages....Apple would be a failed product...no?
It'll be a failed product when they close the Zune division.
But seriously....why is the Zune so bad? I just want to see what poeple find negative about it.
You won't find an answer that isn't incredibly biased. It all boils down to that it isn't made by Apple. If it were made by another third party (e.g. Creative or Sansa) I imagine it would get some praise from the community, but still be bashed as not as good as the iPod. The fact that its made by Microsoft just inspires so much hate that the fanboys can't see through their Apple-made rose colored glasses.
Hmm, I didn't really have a point!
Was just randomly venting frustration. Honestly though, I'm not going to consider a media player unless I can do exactly that. It's a shame that the 'better' players all tend to rely on some software package to get anything onto them.I don't use itunes or media player, easy and flexible for me is dropping a file/s into a folder - or at least having the option to do this...
Even before the original was released, microsoft said they weren't planning on making money with it - I liked your adjective too, as much as I like the idea of sony having a black eye and a bleeding nose.
To answer your question no. To answer your other (real) question - I live in the uk and I've never even seen one, I don't think they sell them here, or outside the us? Seems a bit stupid, loading up some pallets and shipping them across the sea is hardly a big investment or risk
Anyway, I prefer to buy products that really work for me - not on some silly brand image/war/bias blogsite/community/random adjective/etc based decision.
Ummm... Don't speak for me, please. I don't like it because of the UI. Could care less who makes it. UI over brand.
Completely crazy - I'll stick to whoever sells me the cheapest flash stick with a headphone socket then
You are wrong on the xbox, it's misleading to say it took 76 years for it to be profitable, because it was profitable all along via the CONTENT it was selling, ie the games, and microsofts cut in that. If I sell you a device at a loss but all the software that goes with it at a a huge profit, that's a profit for me.
Well 96% of the buying public that have not chosen the zune and have noted nay with their money, the ultimate judge, are not exactly apple fanboys are they? Your argument thus crumbles.
Hmm, I didn't really have a point!
You do have a point that ease of use is severely curtailed by not using the simple drag and drop paradigm, and I too dislike it that I have to go via itunes all the time.
Is that 96% current market saturation or purchasing preferences from last year? Considering that the iPod has been out much longer than the Zune, these would be radically different statistics.
Interesting thought. I agree to a point. Their xbox divsion however never turned a profit for any quarter until last year.
No one is defending the Zune.
I've simply asked (more than once now) can anyone let me know whats so "bad" about the Zune.
No one has given an answer yet. Which is leading me to believe many of you haven't even used one.
So i'll ask again, what didn't you find appealing about the Zune in your personal opinion that makes it "bad."
Hmm, I didn't really have a point!
I don't use itunes or media player, easy and flexible for me is dropping a file/s into a folder - or at least having the option to do this...
Even before the original was released, microsoft said they weren't planning on making money with it - I liked your adjective too, as much as I like the idea of sony having a black eye and a bleeding nose.
To answer your question no. To answer your other (real) question - I live in the uk and I've never even seen one, I don't think they sell them here, or outside the us? Seems a bit stupid, loading up some pallets and shipping them across the sea is hardly a big investment or risk
Anyway, I prefer to buy products that really work for me - not on some silly brand image/war/bias blogsite/community/random adjective/etc based decision.
Well, thats what being a pretty successful company in one aspect lets you do haha....bully into every other aspect.
Anyway, i believe the iPod is still not international...but its rumored to be going international this year.
As I've said before in previous posts: The UI. It was not intuitive enough to compel me to give it more than 10 minutes of my time. Perhaps I'm too "stupid" to figure out the UI with ease... I'll concede that, you've got me there.
Alright fair enough.
I don't think you are stupid but i'm a bit surprised as to me at least, the UI made more sense. (and remember, I came from 2 previous ipods)
It reminds me of a bit of the XMB of Sony machines now. Swipe left or right for category, up and down for content.
You'll find many gear/electronic review sites agreed with me on that one, in fact, most rated the iPod classic and Zune the same score.
Well, nobody's brain works the same.
Good point on the review sites comparing Zune/iPod. I do realize some like the Zune better. I can't ignore, though, what % of market share also implies.
Well def. not.
But i think as a Mac user you know that the high unit sales doesn't always equal "better" haha.
I mean, i have no real issue with an ipod, i think it works great, and has always worked great. Apple was able to jump on the mp3 market and take hold before other companies realized this was going to be big.
People don't say MP3 players...they say iPods. When I am talking to someone I even find me stopping myself from saying "iPod" instead of "Zune or MP3" player.
I just personally think the Zune you can tell Microsoft is putting in a solid effort which I respect going against the MP3 Goliath that is the iPod....and esp. compared to their Version 1 of the Zune and Zune software which was clearly just a toss in the hat.
A friend of mine has a Zune, and I've used it a number of times. It's alright, I'd never buy one for myself, but it isn't the worst MP3 player out there. I just didn't like the design, the UI, and that it felt more awkward to me than using an iPod.
In what way is it a solid effort, in what way do they want to go against the goliath when their sub par product is not any better than anything from sandisk, samsung, lg, creative, iriver etc. etc. etc. even sony, and when all the afforementioned are more innovative/feature rich than the zune, and even they can't go against the iphone?
MS is great at what they do best, copying, they should stick to that, they should stick to their touting windows 7 for their copying of the dock and their copying (finally - after scraping the "Side bar", another ms idiocy) the widgets amongst other things. As long as they keep their copying (and not just from apple) and having their tight grip around the worlds throat with their monopoly their sub par products are going to sell to the flocks.