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Zune HD

seashellz said:
DOA

Zoon one is on life support ie, like SONY is to Blu Ray-
spending 100s of millions more than they get back in hope the market is unsophisticated enough
to bite- massive subsidation


Wasnt it Bill Gates that said "There's a sucker born every minute"?


MS is clueless-they dont "get it"

their specialty is a poorly built OS-really more applicable to enterprise than home use-they really dont know that you cannot market "cool"
you dont act, you cant "make" it happen -its fate

APPLE being the entity it is is not TRYING to be cool; THey cannot help it if something they sell takes off like wildfire-you cannot REALLY hoist second rate stuff on the younger group, MS has guys at mid life crisis design a "hip" Zune website (a scream -do visit), based on marketing data on how to be "cool"

or worse-a 20-something corporate poodle
who overacts .....with !!SUPER!! !!WOW!! "YO-DUDE! THE ZUNE IS RAD!!!!!!!!!!"
based on marketing data of HOW TO BE COOL-you can smell it in a minute when you visit the site

-by old guys who just 'dont get it'
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i love apple...but, i am not going to be confined by belief that apple is the be all of everything great. i never had any issues with any os from microsoft. in fact i can proudly say that my experiences with windows 7 has me grining in a devilish way. it will definetely make users think twice between osx and windows. i greatly prefer windows 7 over osx now.

as far is zune is concerned...the hardware and os wasn't shabby at all. i have some heavy mac users that prefer their zunes as well over an ipod.

this new zune hd looks very slick and a great improvement from microsoft in design. i love it.

who cares if apple has the app store? money can buy anything...meaning developers. all it takes is the zunes equivalent of what halo was for xbox and watch the money and users flock.
 
The Zune you know and love

I can see the marketing meeting so clearly: and we are obviously going to call it Zune because the Zune brand has been established so sucessfully! ;)

How about calling it Windows 7? :D
 
GradientMac said:
Yes, the Zunes ARE effing fantastic products, and Apple has been slacking with the iPods lately.

Stop being the reason the Apple community gets labeled with 'smug' and 'brainwashed.'
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You going to Chesney, or what?
 
fleshman03 said:
What compenition?

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Link




As a side note: after the one-freaking-button on my iPod Touch broke, I would actually consider this. Assuming that it is priced right...
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That is amazing... the what are you planning to purchase in the next so many months... 100% iPod.
 
With an App Store the Zune will have great difficulty. The whole HD thing on a tiny screen is kind of a joke, however, it's about integration with all the other screens in your life, again a weakness of the Zune mentality. But I guess the bigger question is why Microsoft is so scared of Apple...
 
Hd?

WOW this is a big transition for Zune. From handheld device to gargantuan screen wall mountable touch device. This must be a full resolution device that you can play around with your hand on your living room. Forget about the remote you get-up use you multi-gesture hand, go back to couch and enjoy your HD show. Good Luck!
 
Wasnt it Bill Gates that said "There's a sucker born every minute"?
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No, it was P.T. Barnum... but, be not afraid-- the J. Ringling Balmer circus is coming to town!

Just be careful when walking behind the big elephants!
 
h.21 said:
Big ugly black border + second unnecessary silver chin = UGLY. Deal with it.
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Big ugly black border: Check.

Also, i'd like to know how you know that the silver chin on the Zune HD is useless. Have you used one yet? Have you even seen one in real life?
 
Earth to Microsoft.

How's that Zune product line working for you so far?

Does it come in brown?

OBTW, I hear Windows 7 is filling the vacuum caused by Vista. How much did the vacuum COST you, and what is the breakeven time and unit sales number for W7?

I ask.

Have one of the many MS guys following this thread answer those quickies please. Thanks. :D

Rocketman
 
joueboy said:
WOW this is a big transition for Zune. From handheld device to gargantuan screen wall mountable touch device. This must be a full resolution device that you can play around with your hand on your living room. Forget about the remote you get-up use you multi-gesture hand, go back to couch and enjoy your HD show. Good Luck!
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Nah! The artist rendering is not to scale. Actually, it is a big-assed table!
 
Anyone know if there are higher resolution pics from the engadget thing? I like the 80's pop feel of the art and i want one as my wallpaper.
 
Rivix said:
You would be interested if Apple was making it.
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yea, hypocrites aplently...

"does anyone know if the next iPhone/iPod Touch is going to have a camera, more ram, and an hd display..."

later that day...

"word is the next zune will have an hd display..."

cue apple brainwashed mobs yelling how ludacris it is for a zune to have hd and how even more retarded to have it on that form factor.
 
If MS is really going to come out with this, it would be a MID running Tegra. If you look at the NVidia site you'll see that Tegra does run on the future Windows Mobile.

Now the question would be, does anyone want a large MID to carry around? On the other hand, this could be a competitor to the much discussed Apple iPad or whatever you call the possible tablet.
 
Who cares??

Who cares what MS does anymore. It's getting ridiculous with all the announcements. Any company that can deliver a great well thought out product with plenty of support and accessories can make it today. It doesn't always have to be MS or even Apple.

I want to see real innovative products that I can actually use. My iPhone basically replaces any iPod or Zune. Problem solved. MS can you solve any other unsolved problems? How about reinventing the toaster? Remember when Bill Gates was telling everyone about his automated house? Where is my automated house?
 
Rocketman said:
Earth to Microsoft.

How's that Zune product line working for you so far?

Does it come in brown?

OBTW, I hear Windows 7 is filling the vacuum caused by Vista. How much did the vacuum COST you, and what is the breakeven time and unit sales number for W7?

I ask.

Have one of the many MS guys following this thread answer those quickies please. Thanks. :D

Rocketman
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Your sig says "Think Different-ly!", but you are just another sheep.
 
Apple's usual pattern is to introduce a revolutionary device, make slight modifications on the 2nd version, and really have a major upgrade on the 3rd version. For instance, the Mac 512k was a slight revision of the 128k, adding only more RAM. Then, the Mac Plus came along with upgradable RAM, new ROM, 800k floppy, SCSI, and DIN-8 serial ports. The 2nd generation iPod was a slight modification of the original, primarily increasing storage. The 3rd generation iPod really slimmed down, went to all touch controls, and most importantly, introduced the Dock connector. The 2nd generation iPod Nano was a modest improvement on the original, mostly dealing with more color choices and and more scratch resistant housing. The 3rd generation Nano brought a bigger screen, video, 3rd party games, and redesigned interface.

I expect great things this year on both the iPhone and iPod touch, as they are coming up on the 3rd generation of their respective models. The 3.0 OS is great by itself, but I think from a hardware perspective, Apple is going to make some significant improvements.
 
space1nvaders said:
I want to see real innovative products that I can actually use. My iPhone basically replaces any iPod or Zune. Problem solved.
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Let me give you a hypothetical:
I have 50gb of music. Being a musician, i like to carry all of my music with me at once. I have a long flight ahead and stopped by walmart to pick up two movies on blu-ray. I put them in my pc (because apple hasnt figured out blu-ray yet) and rip them to 1280x720 avi files. I would like to play these, in HD, without digging my laptop out of my carry-on. How does you iphone solve this problem? It cant even hold my music collection. This is why the zune hd (if it really is hd after all, nobody really knows) is a good idea.
You can hate it all you want just because it doesnt have an apple on it, but that doesnt make it an inferior product. Im certain that if apple annouced an ipod hd that looked exactly like the zune hd everyone here would be going on and on about how awesome it is.
 
space1nvaders said:
Who cares what MS does anymore. It's getting ridiculous with all the announcements. Any company that can deliver a great well thought out product with plenty of support and accessories can make it today. It doesn't always have to be MS or even Apple.

I want to see real innovative products that I can actually use. My iPhone basically replaces any iPod or Zune. Problem solved. MS can you solve any other unsolved problems? How about reinventing the toaster? Remember when Bill Gates was telling everyone about his automated house? Where is my automated house?
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The Apple iToast ($299):

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The Microsoft Speedy Slice® Turbo+® 3.1 ($199):

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