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Let me give you a hypothetical:
I have 50gb of music. Being a musician, i like to carry all of my music with me at once. I have a long flight ahead and stopped by walmart to pick up two movies on blu-ray. I put them in my pc (because apple hasnt figured out blu-ray yet) and rip them to 1280x720 avi files. I would like to play these, in HD, without digging my laptop out of my carry-on. How does you iphone solve this problem? It cant even hold my music collection. This is why the zune hd (if it really is hd after all, nobody really knows) is a good idea.
You can hate it all you want just because it doesnt have an apple on it, but that doesnt make it an inferior product. Im certain that if apple annouced an ipod hd that looked exactly like the zune hd everyone here would be going on and on about how awesome it is.

Dude, where are you flying to that you'd need 50gb of music to pass the time? Romulus? Sha-Ka-Ree?

And why would you rip Blu-Ray discs at that resolution for a pocket sized device? Even VHS looks super crisp on a 2 inch screen.
 
"I'm not cool enough for a Zune"
"This is so sexy but Zunes to me are more about the asthetics than the media playing power"
"All the kids are really in to Zunes"
 
Dude, where are you flying to that you'd need 50gb of music to pass the time? Romulus? Sha-Ka-Ree?

And why would you rip Blu-Ray discs at that resolution for a pocket sized device? Even VHS looks super crisp on a 2 inch screen.

Duh, he's flying to Kobol in a Viper. From Earth. And you know those Vipers, they don't have jump drives.

Well, I'm off to go find the 12 colonies and to find out what happened to the centurions and their base ship! [leaves]
 
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Big ugly black border: Check.

Also, i'd like to know how you know that the silver chin on the Zune HD is useless. Have you used one yet? Have you even seen one in real life?

You're comparing a PMP to a desktop computer. The reason the black border exists on the zune is to make the screen look bigger when it's turned off. This is deceptive and crappy design. The reason there is a black border around the iMac/24" LED Display/MacBooks is to prevent the bezel around the screen from becoming distracting. If I could have a non-glossy 30" ACD with the black border I would jump at that in a second.

Onto your other point. The silver chin is useless because it's a zune. Don't get me wrong, there could be functionality there. However, the device is functionally useless because it is UNDOUBTEDLY a piece of garbage that will be marketed towards the lowest common denominator.


I will be shocked if more than a few people waste the money necessary to acquire this device.
 
I never knew the newest laptop lines of Apple and the iMacs were ugly :p
Well in fact I thought they were one of the sexiest... and still thinking the same lol

And on-topic : I thought the Zune was dead. Seriously... And hey, it takes so much time to design an OS that has all the iPhone OS 3.0 firmware features, that the Zune will probably do just half the things, and the SDK will be half as good. This device won't make it, it's too obvious already. If I were Microsoft, I'd stop right away to waste money on Zunes.
 
Onto your other point. The silver chin is useless because it's a zune. Don't get me wrong, there could be functionality there. However, the device is functionally useless because it is UNDOUBTEDLY a piece of garbage that will be marketed towards the lowest common denominator.

Who else would buy the dune? Zune that is?

I do not know a single person that uses a zune.
 
A friend of mine had his car broken into last XMas. Inside that car was his iPod and his girlfriends Zune. They stole the iPod and his GPS. The thieves left the Zune.
 
Well I will admit this. I had a zune One time. It was the best piece of software to add music, and movies. Just click and add and its on there. The itunes i had to get used to it. With zune hd. it better be a triple touch or quadruple touch screen. that touch screen better be more advanced than the ipod touch. there is no touch screen technology out there that is more advanced than apples. The reason ipod touch is so popular is of course is the app store. With out an app store. The zune hd will go down the toilet. When microsoft upgrades something. u will see big changes. when apple upgrades something. the 3g is basically the same technology is the 2g. with couple extra features. but at the same time its more advanced than the other mp3 players on the market. i currently own the ipod shuffle 4g and the ipod touch 2g and im not going back to a zune. Infact right now i own a hp laptop. but once that apple netbook comes out(depending on the price) im going to get it. the only think i dont like about apple is all there laptops are so damn expensive but then again. it lasts longer.
 
I'm a little bit confused by Microsoft's Zune strategy. One thing that is clear about MS is that they are not at all interested in being in second (or third, etc.) place in any business they partake in.

They've shown a willingness to shovel billions and billions into projects that they believe will eventually pay off (like the XBox) but I can't imagine that even in Ballmer's wildest dreams the Zune is really going to ever going to come close to being market leader. They sell okay, and this looks like it could be a good product and will likely sell a decent amount. But really, they haven't even put the slightest of dents in the iPod market- or mindshare.

I think it's only a matter of time before Zune hardware is abandoned and the software is put into WinMo phones, on the 360, Windows 7, etc.
 
I'm glad there are a few people in this thread that can look at the Zune objectively (albeit only 2-3 users).

All the people saying "Why bother, Microsoft?" are drinking their own brand of Kool-Aid. If that rational were applied when Apple had little market share everyone here would own Windows boxes. Zune will make a fairly well-sized dent in the market sooner than later.

Most people bashing it have probably never used one, which is a shame, because it is comparable (if not an equal) to the iPod.
 
Onto your other point. The silver chin is useless because it's a zune. Don't get me wrong, there could be functionality there. However, the device is functionally useless because it is UNDOUBTEDLY a piece of garbage that will be marketed towards the lowest common denominator.

You are the worst kind of consumer from a customers point of view but the best kind from a companies point of view. Microsoft could release a computer that cleans your house and scratches your balls and Apple would still gladly take your money cause it doesn't have a lighted apple on it.


1) We don't know specs
2) Just because it's not an iPod doesn't mean that it's for the lowest common denominator, stop being a useless elitist
3) Have you used it? Do you KNOW that it's useless? Can it play music, like it is intended to? If so it just managed it's job, while you did as well(as a mindless purchaser)


Some of you people are the sorts who give us who enjoy a few Apple products a bad name. I'm looking at YOU fanboys
 
Meet Joe, he's looking for a mobile media player under $300.

We told him you find it, you keep it...

Joe: "I want a handheld device that's compatible with Windows and has a nice screen"

Walks into store.

"Those are all cool, screens are small. Let's check out the Apple iPods...

Wow, the iPod Touch, sexy, and it has a lot of Apps. But, I don't want to pay for the brand, I want to pay for the screen...

What is this? A Zune HD? HIGH-DEFINITION SCREEN? UNDER $300! I'M GETTING IT!"

(gets handed $300 and jumps for joy...)

Congratulations, Joe, it's a Zune...

"I'm Joe, and I've got a Zune HD!"
 
The human eye cannot tell the difference between standard and 720p on a small screen such as the iPod touch. Same reason people get laughed at for buying 1080i-p tv's that are under 42in. The eye cannot distinguish the difference until the pixels get to cover a LARGER distance.

If you really are converting blueray movies to your iPod to watch and you want it in HD, then you sir are missing a HUGE concept.
 
Dude, where are you flying to that you'd need 50gb of music to pass the time? Romulus? Sha-Ka-Ree?

And why would you rip Blu-Ray discs at that resolution for a pocket sized device? Even VHS looks super crisp on a 2 inch screen.

I wont be needing the 50gb at one time, but i absolutely hate not having all of my music with me. I cont stand only being able to carry part of it. A bit of ocd i suppose.
I would rip blu-rays because i dont buy dvds any more thanks to my ps3. If i am going to rip it i am only going to rip it once so i have a copy to keep on my computer as well and not several different bitrates/resolutions taking up even more space.

Im not just making **** up to be a pain, i promise.

Also, lets remember that we have no idea what size this new zune is, or if it actually even is HD.
 
FAKE!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

*realizes that it's a Zune*

*yawns*

Nevermind! :D
 
Looks pretty cool, the problem with it (as with all non apple mp3 players) is that many consumers like myself already have a lots of music and stuff on itunes.

I think this is a problem a lot of people face and it is why Apple can dominate the market. iTunes controls us! :p
 
Meet Joe, he's looking for a mobile media player under $300.

We told him you find it, you keep it...

Joe: "I want a handheld device that's compatible with Windows and has a nice screen"

Walks into store.

"Those are all cool, screens are small. Let's check out the Apple iPods...

Wow, the iPod Touch, sexy, and it has a lot of Apps. But, I don't want to pay for the brand, I want to pay for the screen...

What is this? A Zune HD? HIGH-DEFINITION SCREEN? UNDER $300! I'M GETTING IT!"

(gets handed $300 and jumps for joy...)

Congratulations, Joe, it's a Zune...

"I'm Joe, and I've got a Zune HD!"


I'm sure the above post is a flame-magnet already, but YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. YOU KNOW!!! :D :D

Time to come out of the closet: I used to have an older version of one of these P.O.F.S.'s and it SUCKED. Looking back on it now, having that Zoon was akin to eating a dry, congealed Quarter Pounder that's been sitting under a heat lamp for several hours, and knowing that I could have gone across the street to Red Robin for a REAL flame-broiled burger with fried onions and jalepeños, and smoked slab bacon. :D :D
 
I thought MS will killing off the Zune?

Anyway, if this is real, I like it (omg!!) but without an App Store I don't see how it dents into the iPod Touch sales.


Meet Joe, he's looking for a mobile media player under $300.

We told him you find it, you keep it...

Joe: "I want a handheld device that's compatible with Windows and has a nice screen"

Walks into store.

"Those are all cool, screens are small. Let's check out the Apple iPods...

Wow, the iPod Touch, sexy, and it has a lot of Apps. But, I don't want to pay for the brand, I want to pay for the screen...

What is this? A Zune HD? HIGH-DEFINITION SCREEN? UNDER $300! I'M GETTING IT!"

(gets handed $300 and jumps for joy...)

Congratulations, Joe, it's a Zune...

"I'm Joe, and I've got a Zune HD!"

hahaha
 
I'm sure the above post is a flame-magnet already, but YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. YOU KNOW!!! :D :D

Yeah, I don't get this whole "flame thing"... I was just adding comic relief to the whole 3,000 post threads about yet another MS Ad about someone not in the market for an Apple product gets an MS one for free... :eek:
(good for them though, I'd love a free Sony Vaio)

Time to come out of the closet: I used to have an older version of one of these P.O.F.S.'s and it SUCKED. Looking back on it now, having that Zoon was akin to eating a dry, congealed Quarter Pounder that's been sitting under a heat lamp for several hours, and knowing that I could have gone across the street to Red Robin for a REAL flame-broiled burger with fried onions and slab bacon. :D :D

You're making me hungry... :eek:
 
I really don't understand the attraction of PMP. I have an iPhone, but if it wasn't a phone I wouldn't carry it around. There are plenty of opportunities to watch TV or play games at home, it's just obsessive to carry it with you everywhere.
 
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