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I'm sure the above post is a flame-magnet already, but YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. YOU KNOW!!! :D :D

Time to come out of the closet: I used to have an older version of one of these P.O.F.S.'s and it SUCKED. Looking back on it now, having that Zoon was akin to eating a dry, congealed Quarter Pounder that's been sitting under a heat lamp for several hours, and knowing that I could have gone across the street to Red Robin for a REAL flame-broiled burger with fried onions and jalepeños, and smoked slab bacon. :D :D

Wow... You're the first one I know who actually had a Zune. Just wow..
 
Imitation is said to be the greatest form of flattery - but only if it is done well - so far, MS hasn't been able to achieve that. Plays movies & music; no wi-fi? Internet? Phone? Camera? GPS? Seems awfully limited.

I think Steve Jobs summed it up in a quote, once upon a time:
"The problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have no taste and I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way."
 
That really isn't funny.

What does AIDS have to do with a Zune?

Please try having more respect for such a serious issue. There could be people reading this who have or know someone sufferings from AIDS.

Or people sick and tired of (RED) products and their tax dollars being wasted on this and other over-hyped diseases. It's serious, but keep it in perspective.

But to keep on topic here; The Zune is pretty much done for, but like any company, you can't just let your competition have the entire market share -- it's bad business.
 
Or people sick and tired of (RED) products and their tax dollars being wasted on this and other over-hyped diseases. It's serious, but keep it in perspective.

But to keep on topic here; The Zune is pretty much done for, but like any company, you can't just let your competition have the entire market share -- it's bad business.

Yes, lots of tax dollars and stupid red ****. Has anyone else seen those shirts? They look like crap..
Oh yeah, back to the topic:
Well, IMO, the Zune is a major flop, and this will probably be the LAST release of it.
It's like Microsoft BOB, but in a PMP form.
 
I think Steve Jobs summed it up in a quote, once upon a time:
"The problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have no taste and I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way."

That was a great short interview, and a wonderfully accurate quote.

Wow... You're the first one I know who actually had a Zune. Just wow..
Have 2, original and Rev 2, just for the humor of it.

Yes, lots of tax dollars and stupid red ****. Has anyone else seen those shirts? They look like crap..
Oh yeah, back to the topic:
Well, IMO, the Zune is a major flop, and this will probably be the LAST release of it.
It's like Microsoft BOB, but in a PMP form.

More like PiMP.
 
I dont see why so many people are moaning about the HD tag? So it might or might not be full hd, either way its going to be higher resolution than the current iPhone or Ipod Touch and im sure it will handle more codecs than any apple player. Just like creative players do do. I loved my touch when i had it but theres always room for improvements.
 
From the pictures, we can assume:
1. A touch screen. Capacitive? Resistive? Stylus? Multi-touch?
2. Accelerometer.

The HD obviously doesn't refer to the screen resolution. I would be surprised if it can even playback video higher than 480p resolution.

It seems Microsoft is chasing the gimmicky features, yet forget the fundamentals:
1. Zune support on OS other than Windows
2. UMS compliant
3. Support for Asian (Chinese/Japanese) characters. It's laughable that Microsoft didn't support this on the Zune. Are they trying to say that music only exist in countries with latin alphabets?

Imo, this Zune HD is just a stop gap to appease the current Zune customers before MS axe the Zune hardware and put the Zune software in Windows Mobile.
 
From the pictures, we can assume:
1. A touch screen. Capacitive? Resistive? Stylus? Multi-touch?
2. Accelerometer.

The HD obviously doesn't refer to the screen resolution. I would be surprised if it can even playback video higher than 480p resolution.

It seems Microsoft is chasing the gimmicky features, yet forget the fundamentals:
1. Zune support on OS other than Windows
2. UMS compliant
3. Support for Asian (Chinese/Japanese) characters. It's laughable that Microsoft didn't support this on the Zune. Are they trying to say that music only exist in countries with latin alphabets?

Imo, this Zune HD is just a stop gap to appease the current Zune customers before MS axe the Zune hardware and put the Zune software in Windows Mobile.
Yet another feature to bloat Windows Mobile with. Yes, you are very likely quite right.
 
I dont see why so many people are moaning about the HD tag? So it might or might not be full hd, either way its going to be higher resolution than the current iPhone or Ipod Touch and im sure it will handle more codecs than any apple player. Just like creative players do do. I loved my touch when i had it but theres always room for improvements.

We don't know whether the zune will have a better resolution than the touch. I'm not saying it wont I'm saying we don't know.
 
are you not forgetting the interaction design? is it enough to just put HD to impress? it is the iPhone OS that is the big thing - firstly. :confused: i doubt MS is creating an interesting/usable interaction design.
 
The human eye cannot tell the difference between standard and 720p on a small screen such as the iPod touch. Same reason people get laughed at for buying 1080i-p tv's that are under 42in. The eye cannot distinguish the difference until the pixels get to cover a LARGER distance.

If you really are converting blueray movies to your iPod to watch and you want it in HD, then you sir are missing a HUGE concept.

Wait a minute. Since when do people get laughed at for buying 1080p tvs under 42". I can see the difference on my 37XBR6 between 720p and 1080p being output from my PS3. Not to mention that all but very low end tv's are 1080p nowadays. For example, the Sony S-series which we sell at wal-mart are 1080p. The only 720p tvs left are the cheap POS vizios. Besides distance plays a large factor whether can distinguish or not.

I don't understand. How can a fact be negative or positive?

That seems pretty simple to me.

Today 150 innocent people will be killed. That would be a negative fact (although that's not actually a fact as I have no idea).

Yesterday everyone one in the world got $100. That on the other would be a positive fact. (That one is true though, hopefully you didn't miss the memo).
 
I would use a Zune if Microsoft made software for the Mac.

You and I both. Before I got my mac I had a zune and loved it. When I bought it- I had to buy an ipod.

Still have the zune its a 30gb original. Kept just in case they ever release the program for mac.

Only thing I would change is the software for it. I hated it-when I used it. It may be different.


As for the App store.
http://www.zune.net/en-us/software/whatsnew/default.htm
They have thier marketplace on all of the zunes.
The buy from the radio idea is brilliant.
 
sad

very sad. another "we can do it too" attempt. yesteryear aesthetic and functional design. can't possibly replicate the App Store. of course there will be blind people who are convinced by things like this, that microsoft is an innovative company.

seriously, who is going to look at this and think (rationally) "wow, they've done it!" it's been done. it's a clone.
 
Id be happy with improved audio quality as the ipod range is lacking in this department. Im not saying the audio quality is that bad or anything, its fine if you havent used any other player but they are some way behind the sony range. Id prefer a portable music player to offer superior sound quality as the main selling point.
 
I would use a Zune if Microsoft made software for the Mac.

Me to if it delivers what Apple is holding back, somewhat bigger, higher resolution and nice PDF/comic book software. But i doubt it, MS promoted a device like this a few years back (origami?) but never seen it to date.
 
The issue here that everyone is missing is the original tattooed zune guy, that fat f.er we all remember, are they bringing him on board the ad campaign here too? What an asset this guy was... the following pictures are not for the faint hearted...

zune-tattoo-guy.jpg


They even flew him to redmond giving him the "star treatment":
http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/21/zune-tattoo-guy-gets-microsofts-attention/

Turns out, the fatso (no offense to obese people btw) wanted to lose the tatto after a couple of years citing "a lack of progress in the device's feature set."

http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/07/zune-tattoo-guy.html

So, is the Zune guy finally happy with the update and ready to make a comeback, dressed in spandex and sporting a touch me zune tattoo? The MS world is such a treat to dwell in!!!

zune_tattoo_1.jpg
 
You're comparing a PMP to a desktop computer. The reason the black border exists on the zune is to make the screen look bigger when it's turned off. This is deceptive and crappy design. The reason there is a black border around the iMac/24" LED Display/MacBooks is to prevent the bezel around the screen from becoming distracting. If I could have a non-glossy 30" ACD with the black border I would jump at that in a second.


Dude...

iphone_hardware3_20081217.jpg
 
Proofread

Can we get some proofreading in here please? The article is full of spelling and grammatical errors and I'm not even a native speaker.

"Marketing images of a so-called "Zune HD" whos an iPod touch-like media player."

whos?

"Zune sales have not been particularly impressive and still falls well behind the iPod in marketshare."

falls?

"Apple revealed that there have been 13 million iPod Touches up until December 2008."

What? Have been what? Flushed down the toilet? Eaten by Bill Gates?

Proofread. It works.
 
@remmelt

I see the errors in the article as an extension and reflection of Microsoft's incompetence, is it any wonder ALL the other articles do not suffer the same errors?:cool:
 
I suspect that even Microsoft wouldn't be stupid enough to release the Zune HD with only movie-playback if they're seriously aiming at the iPod Touch market, they'll have some kind of app-store compatibility lined up, with all apps in C# requiring .NET libraries and running on nothing else :p
 
The Zune is only going to get a bigger market share if it's available outside of the USA and Canada.
 
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