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The U.K. iPhone 4 Thread
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Your whole post was a contradiction. Its not unclear in the slightest where you stand, you dont need to buy yourself out of anything and can buy the iphone at the subsidised price with a new 12/18 or 24 month contract.
The fact is you are no longer considered to be in a contract so therefore you can cancel your current contract with o2, sign up with someone else for whatever phone you like or wait for the iPhone 4 and pay what anyone who isn't currenty considered to be in a contract will pay which historically will be £100 - £200 depending on the model.
Happy
I'm just happy i smashed my 2 year old Iphone 3g on the floor and smashed the screen, i was pissed at the time, but nothing could have been better. i was going to sell for £200 or recycly for £150.
I sent it off to the insurance group which i had insuanrce with, they took two weeks to come back witht he response of it cant be fixed
, but it was all good, I got a cash lump sum of £450
That is alot of money, basically the money for a brand new iPhone4, i had to stop my self from spending the money and live of a nokia 6303 classic for 3 months, but its all worth it.
If you HAVE insurance you could try and call them and see what they'd do, just dotn tell them who you are and ask what they'd pay.
I'm just happy i smashed my 2 year old Iphone 3g on the floor and smashed the screen, i was pissed at the time, but nothing could have been better. i was going to sell for £200 or recycly for £150.
I sent it off to the insurance group which i had insuanrce with, they took two weeks to come back witht he response of it cant be fixed
, but it was all good, I got a cash lump sum of £450 That is alot of money, basically the money for a brand new iPhone4, i had to stop my self from spending the money and live of a nokia 6303 classic for 3 months, but its all worth it.
If you HAVE insurance you could try and call them and see what they'd do, just dotn tell them who you are and ask what they'd pay.
That's what I thought, but according to the "Fair deal" they are offering, I think we will get the same offer as a new customer, despite the fact that I'm due an upgrade.
It is that easy, he speaks the truth.
When your 18 months were up, your contract didnt expire, but the preset time period did. After the 18 months your contract becomes a month-to-month rolling contract automatically, meaning you can cancel at any moment with 30 days notice. So you are still technically "in contract" (You are bound by the terms of them, ie pricing, terms of use, etc), except now you can choose to cancel whenever you want as your preset time has expired.
Since you haven't signed anything new you have not entered into a new 18 month contract.
This is exactly what I have done. My contract expired in December and I just let it run (And I've done the same thing a few times before). If you want further clarification call O2, they'll be able to help.
As I stated above this isn't new for the iPhone this has been the case for 2 years. You are getting a subsidised price for the handset if you are out of contract or a new customer.
You may have been able to in the past haggle them into giving you a better phone or reducing your contract price but because the networks are squeezed by Apple there is no budging.
This is why I waited on renewing, as i am sure many other o2 customers have done.
O2 will have to think this one through carefully. If they play it incorrectly then they will lose customers.
They have had it easy when every other version of the iPhone was released as they were exclusive to O2 (or were Orange invovled with the 3GS??? I cant remember... anyway), but now they relly need to SELL themselves instead of riding the wave created by Apple's hardware.
The way I see it, if you're out of contract (say you had an iPhone 3G, did 18 months on contract and then went to the rolling £20 Simplicity tariff), then if you want a new iPhone4, you either sign up for another contract, just like you would if you were a new customer, or you buy a pay-as-you-go iPhone4 and carry on with your SImplicity tariff. I assume the "special deal" is for people who are still on a contract (say they are a few months into a contract with a 3GS).
As far as I know, the networks don't just give out new iPhones because you've been with them for a while. I wish I was wrong though!
Strictly yes, however Apple historically has not allowed this.
They are very concious of keeping the image of the iPhone being a "premium product". To offer it at a discount, to them, would appear to devalue it.
This is the reason the first iPhone cost £270 on an 18 months contract. It's also the reason why existing mobile users have been unable to upgrade to iPhone/iPhone 3G/iPhone 3GS for cheaper.
O2 Early Upgrade Offer
Details about O2's early upgrade offer now up on their website. Still no news however on the Pay Monthly/PAYG prices for the iPhone 4 or about pre-order.
Heres the link:
http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/earlyupgradeoffer.html
Details about O2's early upgrade offer now up on their website. Still no news however on the Pay Monthly/PAYG prices for the iPhone 4 or about pre-order.
Heres the link:
http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/earlyupgradeoffer.html
I don't see why they would continue bothering with that, though, since you can buy the iPhone in Tescos now.
And what about those of us who have simply let the iPhone contract run on and did not downgadre to an iPhone simplicty contract?
This simply shows that i have every intention of staying with O2 and therefor should be considered to still be 'under contract'.
If i were to call O2 and tell them to stop my service asap, right now and bill me for what i have used since i last paid my rolling bill then i am sure they would do their best to keep me as a customer.... I only expect the same treatment when i call them and enquire about my eligibility for upgrade to the iphone 4.
If they tell me that as my calling plan ran out in march and that deems me to be out of contract and therefor not eligible for an upgrade i will simply tell them where to shove their contract and start filling another carrier's pockets.
Doesn't look that special to me. £20 per month for each month left to run on your contract. That's £240 for a year!
So for a first month adopter of 3GS on a new contract, we're looking at around £120 (renewal date 3rd Jan 2011) on top of the cost of a new iPhone 4...
...all we need now are the HANDSET PRICES!!! Come on o2! Don't leave us hanging!
Hmmm...£120 for me. This really hasn't been particularly insightful, as I still don't know handset prices.
Doesn't look that special to me. £20 per month for each month left to run on your contract. That's £240 for a year!
Yes I think it is only really viable for people who have like 1-3 months left on their contract AND had/have an intention to sign up for another 18/24 month contract anyway with o2.
Other than that I still think the sell your 3GS / buy the new phone on PAYG option, is the most attractive.
Don't know if anyone else picked up on this:
If you don't already know your contract renewal date you will be able to find it out from mid-day on Thursday 10 June by texting DATE to 21302.
Could this be a hint at when the prices will be revealed?
Jack
If you don't already know your contract renewal date you will be able to find it out from mid-day on Thursday 10 June by texting DATE to 21302.
Could this be a hint at when the prices will be revealed?
Jack
So i entered my contract renewal date... which was 28 February 2010...
This is what i got in response:-
"Good news! When we launch iPhone 4 you may be able to upgrade at no additional cost"
So a free iphone 4? £250 approx. from o2 recycle for my 3GS!!! so hopefully it is free then i'll be quids in!
Now this is what keeps me as an O2 customer.
This is what i got in response:-
"Good news! When we launch iPhone 4 you may be able to upgrade at no additional cost"
So a free iphone 4? £250 approx. from o2 recycle for my 3GS!!! so hopefully it is free then i'll be quids in!
Now this is what keeps me as an O2 customer.
Well I hope this means handset prices are coming soon. Then we can let some people do some number-crunching and come up with the priced up scenarios!
I always looked at it like this, the Simplicity rolling 30-day tariff equivalent to what you get on the £35/month 18-month contract is £20 meaning the remaining £15/month is essentially paying off part of the purchase price in instalments. So over 18 months the 'real' costs are 18 x £20 for line rental and inclusive minutes, text, data etc plus 18 x £15 towards cost of handset. 18 x £15 = £270 which is almost exactly the different between the 3GS 16GB on PAYG and a contract.Doesn't look that special to me. £20 per month for each month left to run on your contract. That's £240 for a year!
Now, to ask users to now pay £20 per month left of their contracts actually increases O2's revenues so I fail to see how this is a deal for customers. Maybe they meant it's a deal for the shareholders
Well yes-you wouldn't have to pay any sort of penalty (that's not quite the right word, but I mean the £20 per month charge that's just been announced for people still in their contract period for a 3GS, who want to get a new iPhone4, and kind-of buy their way out of their current contract). You would be allowed to start a new 18 month contract (or maybe 2 years, who knows), and pay the subsidised handset price, just like if you were a new customer.
I just don't think they'll give you a new iPhone! I assume that they think people want an iPhone enough that they can just charge for it-and if you go to another network, well it'll be the same won't it? You'll be signing up for a new contract, and paying the handset price.
However, seeing as you've been paying more than you needed to for a few months, they might offer you some sort of discount - I'd be interested to know if they do.
I imagine that the contract prices for iPhone 4 on Vodafone will be similar to when the 3GS first came out.
Does anyone have the prices of how much the iPhone 3GS was on contract on Vodafone when it came out?
Does anyone have the prices of how much the iPhone 3GS was on contract on Vodafone when it came out?
I don't know whether the guy I spoke to was just wrong, but I rang O2 retentions and the guy did mention this 'special offer' but wasn't sure of the exact details, and said o2 would be emailing all those on the iphone 4 mailing list, he definitely said o2 would buy out contracts, not the other way around, but I suspect he's gotten mixed up.
Personal situation, 9 months left on iphone 3g (16gb) 24 month contract, could early terminate as per normal, for £270, sell my handset for £250-270 or so, then start again on vodafone. Or, O2 special offer for £180, sell handset for £250-270, leaving £70 - £90 to put towards handset on O2. Ho-hum.
Personal situation, 9 months left on iphone 3g (16gb) 24 month contract, could early terminate as per normal, for £270, sell my handset for £250-270 or so, then start again on vodafone. Or, O2 special offer for £180, sell handset for £250-270, leaving £70 - £90 to put towards handset on O2. Ho-hum.