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Video of Windows XP Booting on iMac
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macattack5 said:
It looks legit. As for the shakey video I think it could have been pure uber geek excitement... I'm sure if I was doing this on video with intentions of throwing it up on the net I would be shaking as well. A tripod would be definitely in order.
That's the question I want to know. Another one is how well it runs on the graphics side of things...
The only reason is for the gaming point of view. I don't like windows as an operating system environment but for gaming, you would be mad not to try this.
If anyone on these forums can do this I would be VERY interested how well it runs doom 3...
aussie_geek
Does VPC run in full screen mode during 'booting'? VPC does not run on an Intel iMac.rog said:
In the upper middle of the iMac is a small square where the iSight is, indicating an Intel Mac is being used. Of course the video is so jerky that it could be black tape for all we know. The back is shown about a third through the video, but barely and very briefly.rog said:
The video reminds me of the Area 51 alien autopsy, which was better quality.
So, I'm still not convinced.
EDIT: Thanks to starflyer and milo for pointing out the previous G5 iMac also had a built in camera.
~Shard~ said:...I see this being very attractive for Mac users who need those 1 or 2 elusive Windows-only apps for their profession. This would also come in handy for web designers who use Macs but need to test their sites' compatibility with IE.
Amen, brother. QuickBooks for Mac 2006 is absolutely worthless for our business because 99% of financial institutions don't -- and won't -- support it!
I guess it was hubris karma. Just as I was starting to brag about being a Mac-only household, my wife explained that QB 2006 couldn't do what she needed...
Oh well.
Who would want to do that anyway?
If you want a windows machine, then buy one, don't push to put that crappy operating system on a Mac machine....where is the sense in all that ?https://forums.macrumors.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
If you want a windows machine, then buy one, don't push to put that crappy operating system on a Mac machine....where is the sense in all that ?https://forums.macrumors.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
One would expect that Windows would run at full speed since it is not running on an emulator, but native hardware. If special drivers are needed for such things as the video or ethernet, then there could be issues there.macattack5 said:
xStep said:
The last version of the iMac G5 had a built in iSight
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1881517,00.asp
sorry for the pcmag link..it was the first one google gave me
Bishop604 said:
Sorry mate, don't think you're right there.
Firstly, Windows uses both sand timers next to mouse and replacement of mouse. Dunno why it uses two different versions, but I'm sat on my PC typing this and when I open a program I get the timer next to the mouse.
Secondly, if you watch carefully when he changes view or whatever in the control panel, he does get a full size think timer for a moment.
I'm not saying this is definately legit (can't understand why you would get that windows logo on a white background, although it did look cool) but I'm willing to believe.
I say congrats to the guy!
robertmorris2 said:
I hate to break the news to to you Sir, but that Mac machine you're so concerned about... is just a computer. It's not a temple, not a place of workship... it's there to do calculations, manage tasks, and aid me in my work.
Why does it matter if a computer has multiple OSs on it?
And the people who are concerned about viruses and all that stuff... run it seperate drives or heck.. just don't do anything dumb and have a firewall.
Bishop604 said:Until i see an installer in my hands and a running computer i CALL FAKE!
Well, I don't quite call fake. I think he got it booting, but the real question is what did he DO to get it there. I'm guessing that his techniques will not be for the squeamish - and may not be something that people who RELY on their machines would ever want to do.
I think I'll wait until it's tried and true before getting excited about it.
iJon said:
That's a common misconception. The last G5 mac with built in camera is the exact same form factor as the intel. That goes for the ugly looking innards when you take it apart as well.
xStep said:
I guess you forgot that the last G5 imacs had isight too? There's no way of knowing if an imac is G5 or intel from looking at the case.
Why would this guy make a fake video and then submit an entry to the contest? If it's fake, we'll know very quickly (today, if not in an hour or two) because nobody else will be able to do it. This isn't some anonymous hoax intended to start rumors.
[Conspiracy Theory]
Nars could have recorded windows starting up and everything and doing all the movements and save it to a video. Then he could have added the XP boot logo for good measures Then just add all those stuff together and you have this video. Then just play all that stuff full screen on the iMac. Also, if nars is the one holding the camera (i think) how can the mouse move at the same time. Dun Dun DUn
[/Conspiracy Theory]
Now that I got that out of my system, FINALLY. Now all I have to do is wait for revision B PowerBooks (sic) and i'm set.
Nars could have recorded windows starting up and everything and doing all the movements and save it to a video. Then he could have added the XP boot logo for good measures
Then just add all those stuff together and you have this video. Then just play all that stuff full screen on the iMac. Also, if nars is the one holding the camera (i think) how can the mouse move at the same time. Dun Dun DUn[/Conspiracy Theory]
Now that I got that out of my system, FINALLY
. Now all I have to do is wait for revision B PowerBooks (sic) and i'm set.thegreatunknown said:
And don't forget, we can now play Half-Life 2! (and a zillion other games that were released on the PC and not the Mac).
robertmorris2 said:
if you DONT want winxp, DONT INSTALL IT. I bought my mac and i can use it however i want. unfortunately, if you want games, you want windows. It's the reality of the situation. Why buy ANOTHER machine or even CARRY BOTH machines? THAT doesnt make sense at all if you have the option of combining them on one machine.
Shaker said:
it has to. That's one of the stipulations of the $13000 contest: that XP and OS X must coexist on the Mac, and you must be able to choose which operating environment to boot into when computer starts up.
by the way, those Mac zealots crying about XP on Macs....get a life.
kjs862 said:
Ken-
I just don't understand this. Macs have *always* been able to boot Linux. So, why the problem with WinXP now? Is it *just* because you don't like MS? Some of us NEED to have more than 1 operating system run on our machines rather than carrying around multiple notebooks, etc.
I'm in no ways a fan of MS, but in my opinion this is GREAT news. It allows ME to stay w/ my various Apple machines more often and not have to switch from one to another.
Get over the exclusivity baloney. It was over a LONG TIME AGO.
w00master
Wrong
You're wrong about mouse cursors under Windows. Windows uses both a full hourglass and hourglass next to regular cursor.
Not that this proves the video is real (although it is), but the mouse cursors that appear throughout are consistent with Windows.
[edit] as others before me pointed out...
Bishop604 said:I call FAKE on this video WHY the mouse! if you look closely the mouse is a MAC icon mouse not a windows mouse, when window's is THINKING the mouse changes into a Hourglass but when a MAC is thinking it puts the Hourglass NEXT to the pointer or uses the Spinning wheel depending on the program, as in Microsoft® Virtual PC!
The mouse icon is not something hard wired into the computer it's a icon file that is used by the OS and draw's to the screen when needed, admittedly you could change the mouse look AFTER the OS has been installed with mods but it don't think it's possible to do it before installation you would have to recompile the install OS.
It is possible to change the windows startup screen to display whatever you want, say like a gray screen with the windows logo on it, company's have been doing this for years when they sell there custom made computers.
One day i would love to dual boot my iMac running windows, i love to game and sadly my mac lacks alot of good games, i imagine it would take something like Yellow Dogs linux dual-boot loader and some fancy coding to make windows run on my mac.
Yellow Dog
Until i see an installer in my hands and a running computer i CALL FAKE!
You're wrong about mouse cursors under Windows. Windows uses both a full hourglass and hourglass next to regular cursor.
Not that this proves the video is real (although it is), but the mouse cursors that appear throughout are consistent with Windows.
[edit] as others before me pointed out...
reminds me of running dos in windows 3.1/95
This reminds me of when people had difficulty transitioning to Windows from DOS apps. People would run old Dos apps in a Win 95 Shell but some apps wouldn't work properly so their was a compatibility mode so that windows would exit, you run your program and when you exit that prog. it drops back/reload into windows.
Now I can see where this will all go, we run our old windows business apps in a bios emulator program under Mac OS X (say to run MS Access database that some fool wrote 10 years ago). But some apps won't work very well under the emulator, so we have a compatibility mode which drops out of OS X and into Windows to run the program (say Half-Life2).
To end (on the basis of an earlier post):
Step 1: Eliminate that goofy old oddball processor called PowerPC.
Step 2: Replace crappy OS with the far superior one.
Step 3: Run legacy apps in legacy mode until replacements are developed.
Step 4: Bye bye Windows.
This reminds me of when people had difficulty transitioning to Windows from DOS apps. People would run old Dos apps in a Win 95 Shell but some apps wouldn't work properly so their was a compatibility mode so that windows would exit, you run your program and when you exit that prog. it drops back/reload into windows.
Now I can see where this will all go, we run our old windows business apps in a bios emulator program under Mac OS X (say to run MS Access database that some fool wrote 10 years ago). But some apps won't work very well under the emulator, so we have a compatibility mode which drops out of OS X and into Windows to run the program (say Half-Life2).
To end (on the basis of an earlier post):
Step 1: Eliminate that goofy old oddball processor called PowerPC.
Step 2: Replace crappy OS with the far superior one.
Step 3: Run legacy apps in legacy mode until replacements are developed.
Step 4: Bye bye Windows.
DamonNoisette said:Amen, brother. QuickBooks for Mac 2006 is absolutely worthless for our business because 99% of financial institutions don't -- and won't -- support it!
I guess it was hubris karma. Just as I was starting to brag about being a Mac-only household, my wife explained that QB 2006 couldn't do what she needed...
Oh well.
Yeah, this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Although 90% of things can be done on Mac or Windows, there are always those types of apps (and important ones at that) which will require Windows. And for those types of situations, this dual bootting ability would definitely be an advantage.