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here is what someone on another website is claiming about the iphone
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2 versions - 4 SKUs.

8GB and 16GB - versions without slide keyboard - 3G with minor changes like
-Video
-Photo and video capture/record button on right-hand side. - volume button may be zoom button in camera mode.
-Definitely no plastic. The phone will be metal (brushed anodized aluminum/magnesium and glass. Apple's commitment to environmentally friendly materials will not include dumping 25 million plastic cases on the public.
-GPS but speaker-phone STILL not good enough.
-Apple iPhone 2.0 software.
-Dual SIM capability passive
-No removable battery but better power management.
-No second camera for video on the front
-Not much thicker than current iPod Touch, no change in screen size.
-Possible AT&T subsidy to $200 on 8GB model - no Apple subsidy in Apple store. 8GB will fall away when 32GB launched
-Copy paste is still a question mark

16GB and 32GB Premium/Enterprise (BlackBerry switcher) version

-The whole rumor on the thick versus thinner stems from this; thick versus thin = sliding landscape keyboard add-on versus none on base model.Nothing to do with GPS making it thicker.
-Phone itself will be 3mm thinner and a 3mm sliding keypad add-on will make it appear slightly thicker, maybe 1mm thicker than current phone. - For a clear e.g. of how it may look, see Samsung U940 SKUs
-When keyboard is extended, additional battery may be clipped on.
-GPS but speaker-phone STILL not good enough.
-Camera can be disabled by Admin on config
-Same screen size (basically, identical front to base model)
-Recessed headphones may STILL be in place but standard iPod headphones will fit.
-Dual SIM capability active
-Photo/video record/ capture button on right-hand side.
-Not subsidized by AT&T.
-Metal & Glass
-Apple iPhone 2.0 software
-No removable battery
-This is the business version and it will cost (much) more.
-Copy-paste is still a question mark.

If the upgrade doesn't come out like this, this is pretty much the roadmap.
I can't post again on this. Probe all possible sources further. Look for SDK code on keyboard and extra battery power management.

Apple is ceding nothing to RIMM in the Enterprise.
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here is what someone on another website is claiming about the iphone---------

It'd be nice to reference, saves me the web search ;) At [url-http://forums.appleinsider.com/showpost.php?p=1246003&postcount=85]appleinsider[/url] corrado7 posted
Can you please explain this "slide out" keyboard. Optional? Standard?
where do you get your info??? or are you just making up stuff
Tantrum posted back:
It's better for me to say I'm making it up. Take this info for whatever it's worth. This is the web after all.
So the above post is Tantrum's views from Appleinsider. Just so people know the source.

Breaking the post down
It's claiming unknown sources to give some information we already know, some useful thoughts and some clashing ideas. The main thrust of it is that there will be 2 versions - 4 SKUs (4 numbers associated with 4 particular products (Stock keeping unit)).

Both will be: Metal & Glass (Apple's recycling commitment), Dual SIM capable, Photo&video capture/record button on RHS, Same screen size

2 are normal (8GB & 16GB: No 2nd camera for video on the front

2 are slider (16 & 32GB) "Premium/Enterprise": Sliding landscape keyboard add-on, 3mm thinner & with a 3mm sliding keypad add-on ==> ~1mm thicker than currently. (see Samsung U940), Additional battery can clip on when keyboard extended, Camera can be disabled by Admin on config.

I'd say this is a concoction of previous rumours

- It makes a good point about it being Metal & glass (environment) (but not mentioning dummy handsets in the system from Apple).
- It mentions simple givens/predictable (non-removable batteries, 2.0 Software)
- It mentions things at odds with current thinking (e.g. the jack won't be flush this time, that you'll be able to have an additional battery, that you could config a camera off (that wouldn't be enough in a secure work environment),

Some glaring issues:
- Why would Jobs force premium users to have a slider, rather than give them the choice of either model type in the 32GB?
- No mention of a slider specifically in other areas. The thickness would be more likely be due to the 32GB and more battery rather than anything else. It would be a huge volte-face regarding hardware keyboards. Why not just do a BT keyboard?
- Apple would let the Enterprise version have higher specs than a consumer model??
- The keyboard would force landscape view on apps which are primarily designed portrait.

"I can't post again on this. Probe all possible sources further. Look for SDK code on keyboard and extra battery power management."


The whole thread from Appleinsider comes from a mix of the Times Online article and
this one which is based on
this one

That one in turn is based on the Taiwan Economic News recent claims (~110g, plastic casing, 2.8" diagonal screen(from 3.5")(decoy or nano), externally smarter (more buttons= smarter?). It's already been talked about above.

Tantrum the user has only made 6 posts on AppleInsider. Tantrum him/herself contradicted themselves by saying it would be metal not plastic. Pinch of salt time.

The one point it makes is that Apple could have multiple lines of iPhones ready, and we don't know. But i'd say the post is slightly off in at least a couple of respects. More mysterious sources... :rolleyes:
 
I am somewhat peturbed by the continuing absense of any rumour of a much improved camera in the new model. The iPhone's looked out of date two years ago.

The thing needs bumping up to at least 3.2 megapixels (ideally 5) and to have an integrated light/flash. I mean, so, so badly. It's the biggest flaw the phone has at the moment that can't be fixed in software.

Phazer
 
Dual Sim

Can anyone tell me anymore about this dual sim function?

My work currently give me a 'work' phone which operates on the Vodafone network and my 'personal' phone operates on O2 (by now you'll have figured that I'm in the UK).

Would the dual-sim function allow the 2nd sim to be from a different network (eg Vodafone) provided that the initial sim was from O2?

Also...this variety of iPhones that people refer to (IE a standard model and a more business orientated phone), does anyone have any anticipated prices?

One more thing...do people expect the new iPhone to be released in the UK at the same time as it will be released in the US? Surely we will encounter some sort of delay?

Hope you can help me

:)
 
I am somewhat peturbed by the continuing absense of any rumour of a much improved camera in the new model. The iPhone's looked out of date two years ago.

The thing needs bumping up to at least 3.2 megapixels (ideally 5) and to have an integrated light/flash. I mean, so, so badly. It's the biggest flaw the phone has at the moment that can't be fixed in software.

Phazer

As previously mentioned - I think Apple has been doing a lot of background work on integration of the iPHone with iLife 08/09 (which could be previewed at WWDC (08 was announced ~August 08)) along with youtube/smugmug.

Adobe's move with the HDTV support for Flash - see Smugmug for more details:

iPhone is a bandwidth hog in comparison to the current iPhone (average monthly data of >100Mb versus RIMM Blackberry being a fraction of that)

http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/

This might also affect Quicktime too - At least Silverlight didn't steal a home run on Apple by adding support (for some reason...)

The camera will be >3.2Mp. Maybe they will have flash. maybe not. It could be used more for light conditions pics and video than dark shots (see the cheap but selling videocam Pogue reviewed. Forgotten the name)..



- Dual SIM
Why? I'd say it's on a par with adding a space for a memory chip slot. Apple won't want to waste space for something that won't be very beneficial
The primary reason would be for a work SIM and a non-work SIM. But if Enterprises don't want that feature, Apple wouldn't make all their phones dual SIM and lose out on sales due to having all the new handsets with the feature.

Prices will be changing - there will be more subsidising (as seen by muted rumours about AT&T) and probably in Europe too (as carriers want the contracts, and there will be more competition to get these data using iPhone users onto a contract through non-exclusivity in new areas).


- Expect a release asap. Either simultaneous or asap after the US. My bets more on near simultaneous. Not really any more than say 2 weeks wait.


Some more on 802.21:

http://telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_future_seen_technology_65/
 
I can't post again on this. Probe all possible sources further. Look for SDK code on keyboard and extra battery power management.

Apple is ceding nothing to RIMM in the Enterprise.
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Please...anyone who posts "I can't post again on this" take with a HUGE grain of salt. It is like they want us to think "I've got my own computer, but instead I have snuck into Steve Jobs' office while he is taking a pee to post some insider information....oh, he is coming back..gotta run."

Come on man...are you serious?
 
Beyond 3G!

http://www.9to5mac.com/apple_wimax_secret


The gist:
It might not just be 3G (technically more like the potential of 3.5G), but more.

InterDigital in March, revealed it has signed-up Apple (and RIM) as a licensee for its 3G technologies.

InterDigital’s SlimChip architecture might be deployed in products from Apple
The 9to5Mac article goes on to suspect that Apple may plan to move from behind the cutting edge of mobile technologies (by not including 3G support in the first place) right to the forefront of what’s possible - support for the little-known 802.21 wireless standard.

802.21 is soon to be an official standard that converges various types of fixed and mobile technologies: in the case of an 802.21 handset, deployment of the standard could theoretically allow the device to seamlessly switch between various connectivity options, including Wi-FI, 3G and (drum roll please), WiMax.

Apple previously single-handedly popularised WiFi technology (AirPort) when it introduced the iBook in 1999. InterDigital’s move to join the WiFi Alliance this year, followed by its move to license its 3G modem technology to a shadowy (unnamed) Asian fabless semiconductor company also passed under the radar.

Intel’s WiMax technology has been a promise on a whisper for some time now. Implementation of the technology has faced some resistance, not least from mobile phone networks, scared to cede their control of wireless networks. While that resistance is common in developed telephony markets, it’s less visible in some emerging markets.

So, let’s consider the evidence at this point: We know Apple has a licensing deal with InterDigital; we are fairly confident Apple will introduce a 3G iPhone soon; we know Apple has aggressive sales targets for this device, and that the company plans to introduce iPhones into more territories this year; we know that some of those target countries, Russia, for example, are moving to adopt WiMax; and we know InterDigital is deeply involved in developing a convergence standard to facilitate use of mixed network standards through a single device.

We also know Apple likes to amaze, and is in a close relationship with Intel, which is looking for a WiMax champion (and is building WiMax support into many of its chips). With WiMax network roll-out set to gather steam this year, Apple has the opportunity to leapfrog all debate regarding 3G support and initiate a new age of wide area network computing.

All these signs and portents don’t constitute anything other than speculation. After all - WiMax isn’t yet widely deployed, and Apple may choose to wait until it is before it initiates such a move. But when (or if) it does, it already has the key relationships - and products - it needs to hustle users into a new connected age. Remember, Apple was the first to bring its customers to Wifi - with its Airport products introduced at MacWorld New York City in 1999.



More possible in my eyes than some other things muted in this section!
 
Please...anyone who posts "I can't post again on this" take with a HUGE grain of salt. It is like they want us to think "I've got my own computer, but instead I have snuck into Steve Jobs' office while he is taking a pee to post some insider information....oh, he is coming back..gotta run."

Come on man...are you serious?

Im not the one who claimed it, It was a copy and paste from appleinsider

please reread it again
 
Thanks for the link anyhow (I have to admit I didn't parse the comment mentioned as theirs versus yours the first time. Just a mistake in working out who said what). - I don't much dabble in their forum, so it was fun to take a look.

Blimey. So is this why 3G took a miss? Maybe that 2nd bridge was touch? It'd be a shocker if they updated the ipods to touch come WWDC, and then rolled out the stonking WiMax style iPhone. That and Bonjour for iPhones? Hell, Apple would make dynamically moving p2p iPhone networks (If we could gain access to a file structure to deal with personal files (movies, songs etc).

A dual sim lookeylikey (but not workey likey)
http://news.timtechs.com/dual-sim-iphone-colone.html
 
on the rumor that there may be a slide functionality.....i really hope there is not one. I think one of Apple's greatest accomplishments is the "touch functionality" and simplicity. Other models, such as Verizon (don’t know the exact model number) have a touch screen and it sucks! (thier slide phones such also and are just akward when the keypad slides out)

On top of that, whether the "slide" moved horizontally, or vertically, it would just make the phone more bulky and goofy looking,... Almost like you are talking into a James Bond cell phone shoe.

My opinion (and of course Steve does not care) is that when a phone goes into its second and third stage, you would think they would strive to make it better. What I mean is that I hope the new Iphone is a bit smaller, thinner, faster and with more capabilities. I am not looking for a totally new redesigned Iphone.

Not to through RIM blackberry into this, but look how big and chunky the old 7000 series were to the new sleek curve, the even smaller BB 9k (noting confirmed yet)…..
i know iphone and BB are like apples and oranges (somewhat) but its the way BBimproves their phoes (bit smaller, thinner, faster and with more capabilities) that has partially contributed to their sucess. (yes i am aware that they have been around for over 10 years and just about all businesses have them) ,my point is, follow their conceptual trend of improvement...and perhaps apple will grow faster and take over that market


Just my opinion….
 
This 802.21 looks interesting (and as of now, there are few hits for 802.21 iPhone - expect this to rocket!). Lets take the ball and run with it.
802.21 is about a standard that can deal with heterogeneous network types ((Wifi 802.11b/g/n), non 802 - 3G, WiMAX (802.16), PAN (802.20), wireline ethernet (802.3))
To quote Intel
http://www.intel.com/technology/magazine/communications/mobility-on-wireless-0905.htm is a good page to check out btw
To maintain uninterrupted user connections during handovers across different networks, IEEE 802.21 defines a common media independent handover (MIH) function between Layer 2 and Layer 3 of the OSI (Open Systems Interconnection) network stack, which enables mobility across heterogeneous networks. By allowing client devices and networks to work cooperatively during these network transitions, IEEE 802.21 provides mechanisms for optimizing handovers across Wi-Fi, WiMAX and cellular radios that will dramatically enhance the user's mobile experience. To ensure successful widespread adoption of multiple wireless networks for voice, video and data applications, Intel is leading the development of these IEEE standards and delivering technology building blocks that will enable seamless mobility in Intel mobile platforms.

This could lead to being able to hand off from VOIP to other capabilities. Maintaining session connectivity between different environments.


Could this explain
- Lack of 3G
- a masterful plan (802.11n in other Apple products) for integration into a refreshed Apple lineup?
- the way Apple will put the square data peg into the round carrier capacity hole?

- Is this akin to a handset for your home phone, then when you take them away, are your mobile? (Anyone remember BTs multiple flops trying this?)
- Most users have broadband. They wouldn't want their iPhone probably to use 3G when wireless broadband is available. Is this the intelligent auto-switcher?


From THE FUTURE AS SEEN THROUGH TECHNOLOGY
Mar 28, 2005 By Dan O'Shea


2003 — IEEE working group chairpeople discuss need for standard support “media-independent handover services.”
March 2004 — 802.21 working group launches to address potential standards for MIHS.
September 2004 — Call for proposals for the new standard. Initial work items defined.
November 2004 — Proposals received by 802.21 group. Submissions closed.
January 2005 — Debate and discussion regarding submitted proposals and how to reach compromise.
May 2005 — 802.21 working group plans first down selection vote in attempt to agree on first-draft standard.
2005 - Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association's Wireless Trade Show, LG Electronics noted it would get more involved with the 802.21 working group as an example.

So what's new?

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/0,1000000085,39214636,00.htm?r=2

23 Aug 2005 : In a pre-show briefing to international press on Monday, Intel discussed developments that the company claims will herald a new era of cooperating standards in wireless.
Our goal is to provide seamless network connectivity across a wide range of networks...And 802.21 is the one to watch
Alan Crouch, director of Intel's Oregon Communications Technology Lab.

The goal is to provide seamless network connectivity across a wide range of networks, so users will move from hotspot to cellular connection without noticing. These are hard technical challenges, but we're confident that working with the industry we can find ways to make it happen.

802.21 would enable usable models where mobile VoIP and other enterprise applications could be deployed in the field as easily as they were in the office, he said.

There is no date announced yet for the completion of 802.21...We're working hard to move through the standards process, but it will move like the IEEE moves.




http://www.intel.com/technology/magazine/communications/mobility-on-wireless-0905.htm


It's like it's quiet on the wires about 802.21.... Almost, almost too quiet... ;)

http://www.techworld.com/mobility/features/index.cfm?featureid=4078&pagtype=samechan From April 30 08 (today)

Mathias (Craig J. Mathias a principal with Farpoint Group, an advisory firm specialising in wireless networking and mobile computing. He can be reached at craig@farpointgroup.com.) spoke with InterDigital - IEEE 802.21 is soon to become an official standard - it's all about converging various types of fixed and mobile technologies.

He mentions a good tutorial

So InterDigital and Intel support it... It's competition? IP Multimedia Subsystem (IMS), Unlicensed Mobile Access (UMA), the CTIA/Wi-Fi joint effort to explore what's possible and required in converged solutions, and 802.11u.

A lot to choose from for Apple, if they want this kind of thing.

The July 2008 IEEE 802 LMSC Plenary Session is July 13-18, 2008. We'll see I guess.

Other articles:
http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=156528
 
802.21 is a bit out there right now. I can't imagine Apple moving in this direction with the iPhone at this time.

Although I do see the possibilities of incorporating something like this into the MacBook or iMac lines.

WiMax and 4G technologies is definately the direction we are heading. Broadband in the air...wherever you go. Soon, we won't need to worry about getting a network connection, because we will always have one.

Of course, I still think we are a few years away from something like this in the iPhone.
 
802.21 is a bit out there right now. I can't imagine Apple moving in this direction with the iPhone at this time.

Although I do see the possibilities of incorporating something like this into the MacBook or iMac lines.

WiMax and 4G technologies is definately the direction we are heading. Broadband in the air...wherever you go. Soon, we won't need to worry about getting a network connection, because we will always have one.

Of course, I still think we are a few years away from something like this in the iPhone.


Aye - I've been browsing what's on offer - LG's KC1, an Intel MID Digifriend WiBro unit,amongst other things. Looks like Korea will have them first... (But then their agressive development of their network is why they can get them rolled out).

I remember for the MWSF rumor threads, there was chatter about WiMax etc. Apple could steal a lot of thunder if they were able to basically push this standard by getting 25 million units supporting it within a year. Apple doesn't want to wait to let MIDs get the upper hand (Chunky monkey MIDs can take more space up with battery, and so afford more powerful chips).

With something like BT's Phon linked with a 802.21 protocol, i'm sure you could get closer to better signal wherever you go in major flat cities.

Maybe not this conference. But then, was WiFi expected in 1999 prior to it's launch?

Hehe - just reading the wiki - Gotta give it to Jobs:

AirPort debuted on July 21, 1999 at the Macworld Expo in New York City with Steve Jobs picking up an iBook supposedly to give the cameraman a better shot as he surfed the Web—the applause quickly built as people realized there were no wires

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdpRSj7tLiY
Mmm 300Mhx G3 processor - "A rocketship" with builtin CD drive. 3.2Gb Hard drive. 10/100 ethernet. Full size keyboard. It's beautiful...for 1999.(Tangerine & Blueberry) "One of the most incredible [features]- it has a handle". No latch. 1 USB lol - It's the MBA mark 1... A decent cablewrap. It's interesting to see this keynote and 2007's.

The money shot is on:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHGbwVRRgo at
at 1:11 he was still playing with the audience "iMac unplugged"
1:40 - "is it possible to fall in love with a computer? Oh yess oh yesss Is that Jeff Goldblum?
2:50 The late great Barry White doing a skit ad.

4:10 One more thing...
5:20 specifically.

So there is a precedent for Jobs and Apple to beat your expectations... They'd been working with Lucent for 18 months.
(Later on Phil Schiller jumps of the stage with one to a mat below to show an early wireless accelerometer working...)

(From https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=5381898&posted=1#post5381898)
(note the fanboy applause for Steve just working out the name, iBook)
The AirPort Extreme was updated on January 9, 2007, to support the 802.11a/b/g and draft-n protocols.
802.11y is expected June 2008.
 

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1:40 - "is it possible to fall in love with a computer? Oh yess oh yesss Is that Jeff Goldblum?

Oh yesssss...it is Jeff Goldblum.

I love watching Steve's keynotes. He is a master at suprise announcements. He knows how to get a techies heart pounding.
 
Oh my. I believe we might have the whi (te) Phone.

Gotta give credit to the sales persons who is gonna dress up 16Gb as the hot cake seller, to clear stock.

Something for your wednesday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASkis57blsc

1:30 in
"Today we're introducing 3 revolutionary products of this class

The 1st one - a widescreen ipod with touch controls
The 2nd one - a revolutionary mobile phone
The 3rd - a breakthrough internet communications device

So 3 things
- a widescreen ipod with touch controls,
- a revolutionary mobile phone
The 3rd - an breakthrough internet communications device

an ipod a phone and an internet communicator
an ipod a phone and an internet communicator
Are you getting it? These are not 3 separate devices - these are one device, and we are calling it iPhone
Today Apple is going to reinvent the phone."

And people say they can't get GPS, 3G or 802.21 in the next version ;)
 
Nah - i'm wondering what the Apple related in store stuff was another macrumor member saw in Nottingham. Didn't see anything of interest Tuesday evening.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/477837/


W00t. 6502 status, and nearly at 300 posts.

A couple of readers have reported that AT&T hotspots are now offering free Wi-Fi access to iPhone users. AT&T Wi-Fi hotspots at Barnes and Noble as well as Starbucks are now offering iPhone users a custom portal to access free Wi-Fi. A special iPhone formatted page asks for your mobile phone number. Once entered, you can access the Wi-Fi access for free. MacRumors has been able to confirm this finding at a local Barnes and Noble. Blurry photo provided:

AT&T recently partnered with Starbucks to provide Wi-Fi access to Starbucks' 7000 stores nationwide. This partnership allowed existing AT&T broadband customers free access and AT&T promised that it would "soon extend the benefits of Wi-Fi at Starbucks to its wireless customers", but no official announcement has yet been made


This is the rollout for America to get free wifi, to the Apps Store, as well as to general wifi, and specifically the Starbucks Music store. And it's only the start of May.


The evening gets better?

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...le_advanced_gaming_graphics_into_iphones.html
Slightly amended for size:

v2 iPhone might have exclusive access to advanced graphics core and video decoding technology, thanks to a secret licensing deal between Apple, mobile graphics leader Imagination Technologies, and Samsung, the iPhone's ARM "system on a chip" manufacturer. The result may be an ideal platform for handheld gaming and high definition video playback.

- Imagination's New 3D SGX Core upgraded from the current version of the PowerVR MBX graphics processor core developed by Imagination (e.g. used in the iPhone, Nokia N95).
The PowerVR MBX supports the features of OpenGL ES 1.1. Many mobile chip manufactures have a design license to modify and develop their own SoC parts, which include Imagination's MBX graphics core.
- The PowerVR SGX, introduces OpenGL ES 2.0 support, along with a Universal Scalable Shader Engine that provides mobile devices with highly efficient, shader-based 3D graphics. SGX is not only backwards compatible with code developed for MBX, but also actually runs it with better performance and efficiency.

- Imagination has also developed VXD decoder codec components capable of playing back HD video from a mobile device either directly or output to an external display. The VXD core specializes in highly power efficient decoding, making it possible to handle HD video content with comparable power consumption to existing audio playback chips.
- Imagination licenses both its VXD codec cores and the new SGX graphics processor core designs to chip manufacturers, but access to the latest generation of its intellectual property has been negotiated in a new way.

Samsung's Manufacturing License for SGX and VXD
- In a press release issued earlier today, Imagination announced signed a licence agreement with Samsung "with respect to certain POWERVR SGX graphics and VXD video IP cores." The release noted that the license "enables Samsung to manufacture semiconductor devices which integrate these IP cores from Imagination." According to a source familiar with the agreement, this deal is unique in that it is only a manfacturing licence, and is the first time Imagination has issued one on such terms. The source reports that Samsung does not have a license to design chips that include the cores, only to produce them. This is different from previous licensing agreements related to the MBX graphics core, for which Samsung does have a design license.

The Mysterious Licensee

- Last July, Imagination announced a deal to license its "next generation graphics and video IP cores to an international electronics systems company under a multi-use licensing agreement." The electronics system company was not named. The release stated that "the SoCs to be developed under this license agreement will be produced for this new partner by Imagination’s existing semiconductor partners and/or new chip manufacturing partners."

The fact that this "electronics system company" was both a "new partner" and not itself a chip manufacturer strongly suggests that the international electronics mystery company was in fact, Apple, Inc., which stands among very few other companies as new to mobile graphics core licensing yet dependent upon third party manufacturers who are already Imagination partners.

Combined with knowledge that Samsung is now licensing the next generation SGX and VXD designs for manufacturing, this indicates that Apple has secured unique Imagination technology for its own exclusive use, and is using Samsung to manufacture the new SoC parts for future models.


So, that PA Semi Buy? Bringing Custom SoC Expertise In House
Apple buys PA Semi - a fabless chip design company. As It helps Apple expand its in house chip design expertise. This might be to take its own mobile processor designs that incorporate the latest graphics technology and pairing these with the most appropriate processor cores.
Currently this means processors based on the ARM architecture. But the door is open for Apple to incorporate future versions of Intel's Atom line of mobile processors, which also incorporate Imagination's PowerVR graphics cores.

By licensing Imagination's graphics technology directly, Apple can keep itself flexible to adopt any mobile processor architecture while retaining a competitive edge in graphics performance. The processor agnostic design of OS X allows Apple to outmaneuver existing mobile operating systems, which are often closely tied to specific hardware.

Gaming developers gaming developers gaming developers
The easy to use App Store to deliver mobile apps on demand, combined with potential to have amazing game graphics and sound, with a unique UI, makes it possible that Apple finally is going into gaming. (There are a fair few patents to re-review on this area in light of this announcement).

Artificial Life, Aspyr, Electronic Arts, Feral Interactive, Freeverse, Gameloft, id Software, Pangea, THQ, and Namco Bandai have all confirmed an intent to deliver games for the platform, with Gameloft announcing plans for 15 titles by the end of the year.

How many consoles could claim such a number of games to be delivered in the 1st year?

What does this mean for Apple?
GFLPraxis makes some great points on the same thread.


Why not 801.11y in 2008?

1 Year back

What was the iPhone sold as?

A device with a revolutionary user interface. A leapfrog product.
The interplay of hardware and software
No cluttered bottom 40% - No buttons & controls that can't change.
A giant screen which works with a pointing device we all have.
No stylus - "Who wants a stylus? Yucccck nobody wants a stylus."
It's real thin - it fits beautifully in your hand. 11.6mm
The 2Mpixel camera built in
Simple non-cluttered edges.
Touch your music.
See your music
They want to reinvent the phone -"The killer app is making calls"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIJoCw679ks

Jobs in the keynote last year:

iPhone is a quad-band GSM + EDGE phone. We have decided to go with the
most popular international standard which is GSM we're on that bandwagon, heading on that roadmap and plan to make 3G phones and all sorts of other amazing things in the future


He ain't talking Nehalem at that point.
The GSM roadmap being EDGE -> 3G HSDPA --> -->

So what's it going to look like?

http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/ does a good general roundup of information, and is usually mashed up on this thread. There take?

  • Price: Two versions, $399 (8GB) and $499 (16GB), but AT&T (T) will knock $200 off the price in return for a 2-year contract (Fortune’s Scott Moritz); Apple will charge $599 for unlocked (NYTimes’s Saul Hansell); AT&T will raise the price of its unlimited data plan from $20 to $45, to match what it charges customers using the RIM (RIMM) BlackBerry. (Saul Hansell)
  • Form: About the same shape and size, but “somewhat fatter” (Engadget’s Ryan Block); 2.5 mm “thinner” (TGDaily’s Richard Felton); 38 to 48 grams lighter (CENS’s Ken Liu);
  • Screen: Same size and resolution (Block); screen shrunk from 3.5 inch to 2.8 inch diagonally (Ken Liu)
  • Case: Less “plasticky” (Richard Felton); more plastic, replacing aluminum-magnesium casing (Liu)
  • Manufacturer: Hon Hai has orders to make 300,000 3G iPhones initially and 3 million in June (Ken Liu) for a total of 24-25 million in its life cycle (Digitimes‘ Steve Shen). CENS’s Ken Liu goes on to claim that the giant Taiwanese manufacturer took the job away from Foxconn, apparently unaware that Foxconn and Hon Hai are the same company. (link)




How does the iPhone currently realise to switch to WiFi over EDGE?
iLounge has the below pictures from

It references Uniea - a company that announced new iPod nano cases—with correct physical dimensions—before the new iPod nano was ever shown (and the fat-boy nano claims didn't get well acknowledged till the keynote really). But the waters are murkier now.
E.g. A Taiwanese newspaper [irl=http://cens.com/cens/html/en/news/news_inner_23229.html]Taiwan Economic News[/url] claimed Hon Hai/Foxconn was making an iPhone with a 2.8” screen, which would present certain major interface challenges given the way the current iPhone works, and might well be a “mini” iPhone rather than a full sequel to the current model.
Bear in mind this is the same article as above that says: "Industry watchers pointed out that the casing-material change has helped Hon Hai lure the orders away from Foxconn Technology Co., Ltd. and Catcher Technology Co. Ltd. with its profession in manufacturing of precision plastic components for information-technology products."

Other sources have said of the below changes:
Similar size, different curves, colors, materials.
Would the “glossy black plastic iPhone” details be accurate? Not if recycling and missing Greenpeace's wrath is anything to do with it.
I'd imagine the plastic, as previously mentioned is there so they can fab the cases easily to distribute for showing dimensions to people - and they're easy enough to make (You could 3D print them, what with Job's new printer...)

The screen size stays the same in this model—3.5” diagonal, with 3” height and 2” width. (Note that the SGOLD3H has the same limit on resolution as the current SGOLD chip)
A possible 2nd camera also shows up, as a separate 3rd sensor (proximity, ambient light and this unknown function one)

Where was the source? Schilllllllllller?
 

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Australia points to June release

More "anonymous industry insider" rumours. Cnet Australia has inside info Australia is getting multiple carriers (e.g. Optus, Telstra) to get iPhone. And the timetable is: Late June.

Sensis, the search engine division of Telstra (Australia's largest mobile carrier), is hiring an iPhone developer to put its Australia-only search engine on the iPhone. Why would a telecom put an Australia-only search engine on the iPhone? Because the iPhone is coming to Australia.

So that's the tune changing from a senioer exec from Telstra saying that Apple was not a mobile phone manufacturer and should have "stuck to its knitting". Winn didn't believe the touch screeen made iPhone revolutionary. Win also grumbled about other matters (name, battery, carrier exclusivity). He's written as saying he thinks the phone will be successful initially, but in the long term will go down the gurgler.


To: Telstra Chief Exec Sol Trujillo saying Telstra would be interested in the device if the iPhone delivered "an enhanced experience for Telstra's customers".

Problem? Apple would have to produce an iPhone compatible with Telstra's Next G network, which operates at 850 MHz (The 2100MHZ is more more common in Australia, as well as in Europe and parts of Asia).

Another take on the rumours
Are the articles all a mix up of different models? Will Apple do a non internet just a phone and nano iPod style phone? (e.g. with contacts, iPod functions, pictures)
- A 110-120g, 2.8-inch nano iPhone
- potentially the "currrent generation iPhone as a 3rd middle option" (presumably with 3G though)
- high end being a higher-specced iPhone

802.21 and 801.11y

According to today's Form 10-Q for APPLE INC filing, Apple may well have some advanced plans on wireless technologies like WiMAX and 802.21 (& 801.11y)

The Company's R&D spending is focused on further developing its existing Mac line of personal computers, its operating system, application software, and iPods; developing new digital lifestyle consumer and professional software applications; and investing in new product areas such as iPhone and wireless technologies. The Company also believes increased investment in marketing and advertising programs is critical to increasing product and brand awareness.


iPhone file syncing
..Asmundson (can't find the link) "reports that networking giant Cisco is developing software that creates a real-time link between the iPhone and your computer. The result: A user could simply aim his iPhone at his computer and "sweep" the file to it with a finger flick, sending the file to the desktop over the phone's built in wi-fi connection."

Neato

This would be another one of those mysteries explained (e.g. why no 3G - well they might be gunning for beyond 3G) - why no file structure? They may not give us that, but they may now give us access to a touch screen file structure that can sync as described. It reminds me of the youtube videos from last year showing how you could manipulate file - in terms of creating piles, moving them around into piles, fanning them out etc.
It was before Stacks came out for Leopard - any idea? I'm sure I wrote about it last year, but i need a decent google search term

In other news
O2 is rolling out nationwide it's O2 Home Broadband LLU ftw. Could explain the UK mysterious Nottinghams signage too.
 
Price: Two versions, $399 (8GB) and $499 (16GB), but AT&T (T) will knock $200 off the price in return for a 2-year contract (Fortune’s Scott Moritz); Apple will charge $599 for unlocked (NYTimes’s Saul Hansell); AT&T will raise the price of its unlimited data plan from $20 to $45, to match what it charges customers using the RIM (RIMM) BlackBerry. (Saul Hansell)

I really hope the price stays the same. :mad:
 
..Asmundson (can't find the link) "reports that networking giant Cisco is developing software that creates a real-time link between the iPhone and your computer. The result: A user could simply aim his iPhone at his computer and "sweep" the file to it with a finger flick, sending the file to the desktop over the phone's built in wi-fi connection."

That's one of those little features that makes Apple light years beyond MS in terms of ease of use.
 
Just wondering - what's been on the backburner, or didn't come through for Apple from MWSF?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/437352/

Apple may well bring in some more multi-touch gestures, and bake these into the new MBP's and MacBook Air's through am advanced multitouch gesture panel coming from the Fingerworks work.

It hasn't been stated but presumably Apple will be increasing the lexicon of the iPhone's touch gesture system.
 
For you to digest t0mat0
After months of speculation an industry insider (who has asked to remain anonymous) has confirmed to CNET.com.au that Optus will be one of several Australian mobile service providers to be selling Apple's iPhone, with sales and service commencing in the last week of June.

Optus plans to make the announcement mid-May ahead of Apple's Worldwide Developer's Conference on June 9 in San Francisco where Apple CEO Steve Jobs is tipped to launch the next generation of iPhone.

While this source could not confirm a 3G version of the popular handset, they did suggest that Optus was expecting the upgraded models.

There remains further speculation as to which of the remaining Australian carriers will also licence the sale of the iPhone. With the first generation of the iPhone operating on the EDGE mobile network, the obvious choice had been Telstra as it's the only carrier with the necessary back-end technology.

The possibility of a 3G iPhone opens the door for the remaining carriers, who all provide a 3G service, and may in fact exclude Telstra depending on the latest iPhone model's hardware specifications. For the iPhone to operate on Telstra's Next G network it would need to support the 850MHz frequency, not just the 2100MHz more common in Australia, as well as in Europe and parts of Asia.

It has also been rumoured that Apple may intend to sell the iPhone directly through Apple stores and resellers, and that these phones would be unlocked. In the US CNET.com reports that the current iPhone carrier AT&T is planning a US$200 price drop on the next generation iPhone, subsidising the cost of the handset to prepare for the prospect of competing directly with Apple.

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/commun...-not-exclusively/0,130061791,339288589,00.htm


Most importantly:
Optus plans to make the announcement mid-May ahead of Apple's Worldwide Developer's Conference on June 9 in San Francisco where Apple CEO Steve Jobs is tipped to launch the next generation of iPhone.

I am still sticking with my Apple Announcement the week of the 12th! :D
 
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