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Today T-Mobile Austria announced in an pressconference that the UMTS iPhone will be soon available in Austria.

Austria will be one of the first receiving countries of the 3G phone and will provide a "test-market" for the next gen apple phone


(german)
http://derstandard.at/?id=3325657

Cheers :)

So T-mobile confirms UMTS iPHone?
- Austria one of the first countries (we've heard similar from before - makes it likely any European country already with iPhone carrier will be in on it)
- They've announced a new tariff model - which would be interesting to see (noting in Euros, w w/out subsidies etc).
A bit of Yoda Translation again: "Therefore Austria presumably as one of the first countries world-wide the new UMTS iPhone one get. "
- The on-line Zahlungsloesung paid engagements further was called it on the part of the marketing boss Hendrik Kasteel, it "more flexible" offers will give.
- Meanwhile one assumes also up to three new models will come for different target groups on the market.

Anyone for anymore translation? I've left what I think is the more boring stuff out of the altavista translation.
I wonder if they're open enough to just post us the English translation ... :)

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Apple-039-s-iPhone-Officially-Comes-to-Austria-78814.shtml
 
what's a UTMS iPhone?
and so I'm guessing june is becoming a more believable month huh

June is getting believable. HTC press event is tomorrow, so that'll be fun too. http://live.phonemag.com

UMTS:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS

Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) is one of the third-generation (3G) cell phone technologies, which is also being developed into a 4G technology. Currently, the most common form of UMTS uses W-CDMA as the underlying air interface. It is standardized by the 3GPP, and is the European answer to the ITU IMT-2000 requirements for 3G cellular radio systems.

To differentiate UMTS from competing network technologies, UMTS is sometimes marketed as 3GSM, emphasizing the combination of the 3G nature of the technology and the GSM standard which it was designed to succeed.


Ug. Greasemonkey script is messing with my posts.
 
June is getting believable]

Maybe just an coincidence but the UEFA European Football(Soccer) Championship 2008 hosted by Austria and Switzerland starts June 7 and lasts until June 29.

UEFA2008 is a very very big event with huge media coverage (Like your Superbowl) and will provide a huge marketing plattform for new products
 
Maybe just an coincidence but the UEFA European Football(Soccer) Championship 2008 hosted by Austria and Switzerland starts June 7 and lasts until June 29.

UEFA2008 is a very very big event with huge media coverage (Like your Superbowl) and will provide a huge marketing plattform for new products

Good point. Europe could very well see adverts during the final. Not exactly the superbowl - but if pitched right with a footy not soccer feel, it could work.
 
hey, a few questions. Is there a possibility that there will be a 32gb iPhone in June? Also If I buy one then and have the contract on o2 (which is 18 months rite?) is it possible to then buy a new one in like a year and then stick the old sim in?
 
Ok, so i've been browsing MacRumors for a few months now, and unlike most websites, haven't been drawn in to register on the forum straight away. But, i'm eagerly anticipating the new iPhone - currently owning an iPod Touch and loving it - and this is the thread I've been looking at, lately almost daily, so I've decided to register!

Anyway, I have a few questions which i hope someone can answer!

1. The new iPhone software - Will it be unlockable pretty quickly (like 1.1.3 etc.) or will it be just like unlocking the iPhone for the first time? What sort of time scale should i be looking at for this to happen after release? because I don't use a phone enough for contract, and anyway couldn't afford the rip off contract that Apple/AT&T offer. Should i be looking at days, weeks, or months anyway?

2. What are the extra features that an iPhone has over an iPod Touch? I know it has a Camera, Bluetooth, Phone capabilities, but what else? What are the advantages or disadvantages of an iPhone over iPod Touch and vice versa?

3. When is the most likely date that people think we will see the iPhone in the UK ?

Gone a bit off topic looking back at question 2, but there we go :eek:

Oh yeah, big thanks to t0mat0 for all the info supplied in this thread? You must have a lot of free time :p ;)

Ben
 
hey, a few questions. Is there a possibility that there will be a 32gb iPhone in June? Also If I buy one then and have the contract on o2 (which is 18 months rite?) is it possible to then buy a new one in like a year and then stick the old sim in?

Yes, there is a possibility. At the rate at which they're bumping up the GB. Touch will probably be 64GB by then though :)
Yes. Can always upgrade if a new one comes out and keep your original contract length.


Ok, so i've been browsing MacRumors for a few months now, and unlike most websites, haven't been drawn in to register on the forum straight away. But, i'm eagerly anticipating the new iPhone - currently owning an iPod Touch and loving it - and this is the thread I've been looking at, lately almost daily, so I've decided to register!

Anyway, I have a few questions which i hope someone can answer!

1. The new iPhone software - Will it be unlockable pretty quickly (like 1.1.3 etc.) or will it be just like unlocking the iPhone for the first time? What sort of time scale should i be looking at for this to happen after release? because I don't use a phone enough for contract, and anyway couldn't afford the rip off contract that Apple/AT&T offer. Should i be looking at days, weeks, or months anyway?

2. What are the extra features that an iPhone has over an iPod Touch? I know it has a Camera, Bluetooth, Phone capabilities, but what else? What are the advantages or disadvantages of an iPhone over iPod Touch and vice versa?

3. When is the most likely date that people think we will see the iPhone in the UK ?

Gone a bit off topic looking back at question 2, but there we go :eek:

Oh yeah, big thanks to t0mat0 for all the info supplied in this thread? You must have a lot of free time :p ;)

Ben

1. Big question. Jobs might very well be wielding a big carrot and a large stick come WWDC. The carriers don't want to lose out on revenue. Whether the iPhone will play nicely on other carrier's 3G / HSDPA networks is also in the air. There are areas that may not be exclusive, but the US, UK and several other places are lumbered with multi-year exclusivity contracts as far as we know.
No idea on timeframes. The hackers usually pleasantly suprise us.

2. They will probably be a different set of extra features, come the 3G iPhone release.

3. I'm reckoning on picking one up early July.

I'll move to ObjC and app building once the 3G iPhone comes out, bit less time on the boards... :p
Cheers for the feedback - a lot of the info is fromother people on this thread, from members and news, and all your comments and thoughts. Tis fun to bounce the ideas around. If you enjoy the thread, there's always the gold star thread rater thing up at the top.

Edit: You're too kind :)

Bingo WWDC 2008
We're nearly close enough to be thinking bingo

Anything missing?
official name come WWDC of 3G iPhone
Multi-touch
iTablet
Boom

My personal fave i'd like to see is Jobs saying "developers, developers, developers" :D


MWSF 2008 http://arstechnica.com/staff/fatbits.ars/2008/01/06/mwsf-2008-keynote-bingo
 

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GPS Apple style

For an idea of coolness:
Google -
This was 2007
http://mashable.com/2007/05/29/google-street-view/
http://www.google.com/help/maps/tour/#driving_directions

2008 - ?

Google Maps Driving Directions Add Street View Option

It went up on April 29, 2008 on youtube Google official channel.

Think this, but as Sat Nav. how does it beat everything out there? It has freaking pictures! If they had night view too that'd be cool.

It'd be fairly simple for the application to work out the rate at which it needed to update the GPS fix - If you're on One road for the next hour, all it needs is the pictures of the route progression, then just use the EDGE or 3G signal to triangulate. If you're doing lots of turns in a city say, it could just stay on for that section, to give you the fine grain location info.

The most hard to drive parts are probably slip roads, large junctions and cities- precisely the places you'd think they'd take pictures of first.

Could it work? Google's had a year to have fun with the 3G iPhone. Wonder what comes up
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=5399779#post5399779

eGPS + A-GPS + Apple iPhone + Google maps = Result

http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/04/just-fyi-3g-iphone-rocks.html


More here https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=5399779#post5399779

https://www.macrumors.com/2007/10/04/apple-exploring-pressure-sensitive-touch-input/
Image from mashable.com
And google also does traffic...
http://mashable.com/2008/04/17/google-traffic-predictions/

So what is Android going to have? Apple might just have a helping of it too.
 

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Thanks for the quick reply. :) Personally, I am hoping to get the phone for release late June latest, but if i can't get it unlocked then I probably won't!

I forgot to ask also, is there any chance of an official unlocked iPhone in the UK, as i am seeing it is likely to happen in many other countries!

Ben
 
Thanks for the quick reply. :) Personally, I am hoping to get the phone for release late June latest, but if i can't get it unlocked then I probably won't!
I forgot to ask also, is there any chance of an official unlocked iPhone in the UK, as i am seeing it is likely to happen in many other countries! Ben

Personally my gut feeling is that Apple will have to lock it down, if it wants to seriously court Enterprise (which it is doing). I foresee many more obstacles for unlockers. It's a tough call - they get the grey market sale for any handset, but they don't get revenue from a carrier necessarily.

June - US - Means 3G and More mobile phone choice?

Now there may be decent 3G on the way, the US should finally be not just getting the hand me down lower spec phones. And Nokia's
salivating Nokia intends to recapture influence in the US this year by putting more handset models out.

Some of its influence in the US market this year with a slew of new phones, Nokia holds ~39% world market mobile phone sales, but ~10% of US market (figures from the article), and have previously offered budget or older handsets, over it's higher-end phones for the US. Nokia's primary designer Alastair Curtis said (Finland's Helsingin Sanomat interview - ) that Nokia will have many new models within the "next few months" that are tailored to the needs of US carriers. One of these needs is that of US calling bands/frequencies, CDMA based phones.

A bit of competition, which is nice for those who don't necessarily want an iPhone.



Pressure sensitivity for iPhone, iPods, general multi-touch pads?

News is from October 2007 e.g. iphonealley,
Appleinsider, macrumors (Roughly 9 months before OS 2.0 Software release). The actual patent application was submitted March 2006 (27 odd months prior to 2.0 Software come late June 08).


The patent was on a new pressure-sensitive touchscreen and/or touchpad concept that may help revolutionize their laptops, displays, and mobile devices. The concept involves screens that react to physical pressure instead of capacitative components to sense human tissue

So this would give location, number, movement, strength of pressure. Primarily the patent was aimed at multi-touch pads, but it's just as relevant to iPhone. A fabled "Multipoint Touch Screen".

Another feature, coming at some point. (Convergence with the digital drawing style pressure sensitive pad/stylus?)


And for the iPod:
http://www.unwiredview.com/2007/05/...no-full-screen-with-touchpanel-at-the-bottom/

OS 10.5.2 and OS10.5.3
10.5.3 ain't too far away - http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=1677 which goes through the woe that is 10.5.2 "Apple's Vista"

It’s pretty far along in testing with Apple developers and could be released to the public in the next two weeks.

Austria, Italy, Australia
Haven't they all pretty much claimed they're going to be the test bed. I doubt they are. They're all going to get it at or after America i'd say.
Austria smacks of Australia in a way - the carriers getting ahead of themselves. Apple has the final call on press releases, and what can be said. I'd imagine Apple's dropping a few carrier announcements ahead of time to build up the excitement regionally.
It's only ~5 weeks away to the WWDC keynote.



As previously mentioned regarding Australia - Joseph Hanlon from CNET.com.au 's view off record being
- that Apple is still very much in control of this deal,
- while Optus will announce its intention to sell the iPhone mid-May they may not know at that time exactly what they will be selling in
terms of hardware specs.
- Considering they won't be alone in selling the iPhone the first announcement
- Believes it was Optus' way of gaining a bit of market traction,
- He seriously expected the other carriers with the iPhone to make announcements in the same week.

So that's several carriers (Italy, Australia, Austria) that have pretty much done this.


Anyone want to pester O2 Customer services iPhone department?
 

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Sounds like Austria is getting in on the act as well. They may have jumped the gun a bit, but with leaks about Italy, Austrailia and Canada, they might want a piece of the hype action too.

Also, something that may (or may not) be related, At&t was offering free wifi to their iPhone customers which has been recently been disabled after a couple of days. It may be possible that they are now, or intended to, wait for a larger event to announce the free wifi. People don't give stuff for free without a big ballyhoo about it.

Things are rolling. It will be soon. I can feel it. Wildcardd week next week...come on baby... 3G, nothing but 3G.
 
Sounds like Austria is getting in on the act as well. They may have jumped the gun a bit, but with leaks about Italy, Austrailia and Canada, they might want a piece of the hype action too.

Also, something that may (or may not) be related, At&t was offering free wifi to their iPhone customers which has been recently been disabled after a couple of days. It may be possible that they are now, or intended to, wait for a larger event to announce the free wifi. People don't give stuff for free without a big ballyhoo about it.

Things are rolling. It will be soon. I can feel it. Wildcardd week next week...come on baby... 3G, nothing but 3G.

As mentioned above - yeah - Apple's letting the carriers pre-announce to the general public to an extent (people who don't read these kinds of forums so much). Not many lay public know of WWDC or Steve's penchant for surprises at keynotes.#

The AT&T I think was just premature release, as they get the wifi spots ready. They could have be seeing it worked. Didn't seem a managed event to try and get press.
 
As mentioned above - yeah - Apple's letting the carriers pre-announce to the general public to an extent (people who don't read these kinds of forums so much). Not many lay public know of WWDC or Steve's penchant for surprises at keynotes.#

The AT&T I think was just premature release, as they get the wifi spots ready. They could have be seeing it worked. Didn't seem a managed event to try and get press.

Awww..go ahead and shoot down my enthusiasm ;)

Something else I was thinking about last night.

Back in March, Ilounge reported on the shortage of iPhones in Germany and the response from TMobile was this:
T-Mobile Germany is not currently offering the 16GB version, and the company’s representatives have suggested that the shortage might last until May

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/us-german-16gb-iphone-shortages-may-replentishment/

I wonder why May?
 
Yes, there is a possibility. At the rate at which they're bumping up the GB. Touch will probably be 64GB by then though :)
Yes. Can always upgrade if a new one comes out and keep your original contract length.

Thanks a lot for the reply! I really hope they come out with a 32gb iPhone because Iv got a 16gb Touch and Id really like to get something with a bit more storage not the same!!! But once again thanks, your doing an amazing job!
 
Awww..go ahead and shoot down my enthusiasm ;)

Something else I was thinking about last night.

Back in March, Ilounge reported on the shortage of iPhones in Germany and the response from TMobile was this:


http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/us-german-16gb-iphone-shortages-may-replentishment/

I wonder why May?
Hehe - you go on the Germany T Mobile site you see this picture below, saying as a graphic "Nur bis" ,meaning "only to" 30th June. (Please correct me if anyone speaks German). It seems 16GB is being sold from the internet site. (Ich nich sprechte Deutche serr gutt). laso the Prices are angebot bis
"Offer to 30th June".


As far as what that means, i'd go the line of Apple at the Earnings call - the numbers on aggregate are low worldwide (the exact quote is up a few pages).

There were shortages elsewhere. Maybe they had less stock, and escaped having their fingers being burnt by buying too many and thus having to discount them to get rid of the stock prior to 3G iPhone. As the article says, what makes Germany special? Other retail stores
have low stock I imagine.

"10 U.S.-based Apple retail locations contacted by iLounge yielded only one store with the higher-capacity model in stock, while Apple’s online store currently lists a 5-7 business day shipping time on the 16GB model."

It may be simply be "attributable to low production of 16GB iPhones, high demand, or merely a reallocation of supplies for international consumption."

Doesn't affect anything. Germany isn't going to be first, neither will Austria, Italy, Australia or Britain... Joint, maybe. Note the article is dated
Friday, March 14, 2008 so before the Earnings Call.

Lots of salt needed these 5 last weeks :)
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/09/0...one-with-3g-hsdpa-may-launch-november-12.html
http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/09/08/t.mobile.germany.ad/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/09/did-t-mobile-germany-really-leak-the-3g-16gb-iphone-doubtful/

http://www.t-mobile.de/iphone/warenkorb.jsp

Speaking of AT&T
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/05/05/t.mobile.3g.official/
With T-Mobile's 3G network now official, live in New York City starting with UMTS (Universal Mobile Telecommunications System) and bringing HSDPA (High Speed Download Packet Access) in coming months.

"Multiple major urban areas should also receive the enhanced coverage by the end of the year, though T-Mobile is unspecific on these locations. Past reports have alluded to areas such as Los Angeles and Miami being some of the first to receive the update."

T-Mobile said several 3G-capable phones already use its network, including the Nokia 6263 and the Samsung t639.

T-Mobile is using the relatively uncommon 1,700MHz Advanced Wireless Services (AWS) spectrum, and so will need different devices than those offered by its rival to enable full 3G access. No phone makers have yet announced a multi-band 3G phone that supports both providers.



RBS - Takes a sneak peek of Apple & is impressed

RBC Capital Markets' Mike Abramsky, after meeting top Apple brass, claims that Apple maker may shake up its existing business model for the iPhone and should easily pass its sales target for 2008, especially once 3G devices become available.

RBS met with Apple's iPhone marketer Greg Joswiak, chief financial officer Peter Oppenheimer, and Mac desktop manager Tom Boger all meet the financial institution. Nice line up.
Abramsky says RBC now has "further conviction" about Apple's plans and anticipates sales of up to 14 million iPhones during 2008.
The revision comes from a newfound belief that Apple might alter its existing sales strategy to accommodate both carriers and users: where the company has insisted on a fixed price and revenue sharing, it may loosen its restrictions after encountering resistance to its present approach in some areas.

Apple "may be planning to allow subsidized pricing, diminishing carrier exclusivity... and supporting global unlocked iphone sales," Abramsky claims, explaining that Apple could also reduce the revenue it shares from monthly plans or even drop the split entirely to secure some carriers' support.

Official backing of unlocked devices through sales in Apple retail stores and certain carriers could improve international sales by 2 to 3 times, according to the prediction.

Rethinking its strategy is also all but necessary to bring the iPhone to China, as the country's leading carrier China Mobile is currently refusing talks on the grounds that revenue sharing with a foreign business violates Chinese customs.

Abramsky nonetheless stresses that the device itself is likely to be a significant factor: the widely anticipated 3G-capable iPhone is still predicted to arrive in June and should serve as a catalyst for adoption, particularly with added enterprise and third-party software support built into the version 2.0 iPhone software. Key features that could accompany the update, such as video calling or GPS, could improve some sales -- though carrier bandwidth costs could reportedly push Apple away from offering downloadable movies, the analyst says. [ So Apple doesn't see video calling as a bandwidth issue?]

The report also observes that any factor in Apple growth, whether carrier adoption or device acceptance, isn't likely to be impeded by an existing monopoly. Most countries have multiple compatible carriers, while the fractured nature of the device market itself means that no one company can claim absolute control. This is seen as giving Apple an opening it doesn't have with its Mac computer line.

"Unlike the PC market, in the fast-expanding Smartphone market Apple faces no incumbent (like Microsoft), creating an opportunity for Apple to take share from existing voice handset vendors like Motorola," Abramsky says.



See you on the flip side, with Apple's announcement. It is a Tuesday, right? ;)
 

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See you on the flip side, with Apple's announcement. It is a Tuesday, right?
Until then t :D

Wouldn't it be sweet to find the Apple Store with refreshed MacBooks, Pros, and iPhones? Ahhh, if only it were that easy.

Perhaps just an invite to an event? I can dream can't I? Wildcardd week is fast approaching ;)
 
Until then t :D

Wouldn't it be sweet to find the Apple Store with refreshed MacBooks, Pros, and iPhones? Ahhh, if only it were that easy.
Perhaps just an invite to an event? I can dream can't I? Wildcardd week is fast approaching ;)

You've got till today, for the invite for a week's notice ;)
the Apple store will go down probably...

More lining up announcements from the carriers.
Guess we can start filling this in, eh?

**If you can PM me if I've missed any out, it'll make the thread neater, so I can just update this post :) **

Vodafone, based in Newbury, England, is the world’s largest mobile operator, with 252 million customers. Hence the 10 countries added to below.

Eastern Europe
Belarus
Bulgaria
Czech Republic - Vodafone
Hungary
Moldova
Poland - Orange "Amongst others" Chief Financial Officer Gervais Pellissier
Romania - Orange
Russia (Population 106 million)
Slovakia -Orange
Ukraine (Population 48 million)

Northern Europe
Finland - TeliaSonera AB
Denmark - TeliaSonera AB
Estonia - TeliaSonera AB
Faroe Islands
Guernsey
Iceland
Ireland - O2
Isle of Man
Jersey
Latvia - TeliaSonera AB
Lithuania - TeliaSonera AB
Norway - TeliaSonera AB
Svalbard and Jan Mayen Islands (Norway)
Sweden - TeliaSonera AB
UK - O2 (Population 61 million)

Southern Europe
Albania
Andorra
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Croatia
Gibraltar (UK)
Greece - Vodafone
Italy - Vodafone & TIM
Kosovo
Republic of Macedonia
Malta
Montenegro
Portugal - Vodafone, Optimus
San Marino
Serbia
Slovenia
Spain - Telefonica Movistar, (Orange soon after presumably - "Amongst others" Chief Financial Officer Gervais Pellissier)
Vatican City

Western Europe
Austria - T Mobile, Orange
Belgium - Orange ( Mobistar?)
France - Orange
Germany - T Mobile
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Monaco
Netherlands - Royal KPN NV is in talks.
Amsterdam
Switzerland - Orange (Swisscom?)

Transcontinental Europe and Asia
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Cyprus
Georgia
Kazakhstan
Turkey
Russia

Total population 706 million.

Others
Argentina - América Móvil
Australia - Vodafone, Optus, Telstra
Brazil - América Móvil
Canada - Rogers
Chile - - América Móvil
China (see last post) (plus they've got some neat stuff on the OS 2.0 for China)
Colombia - América Móvil
Dominican Republic - América Móvil, Orange
Ecuador - América Móvil
Egypt - Vodafone, Orange
El Salvador - América Móvil
Guatemala - América Móvil
Honduras - America Movil
Hong Kong - Hutchison Telecommunications Limited
India - Vodafone (Big potential market)
Jamaica - América Móvil
Japan (A sure sign of 3G) - DoCoMo?
Jordan - Orange
Mexico - América Móvil
New Zealand - Vodafone
Nicaragua - América Móvil
Orange's "African Markets": Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Botswana, Madagascar, Mali, Senegal, Mauritius, Réunion
Paraguay - América Móvil
Perú - América Móvil
Puerto Rico - América Móvil
South Africa - Vodafone
Uruguay - América Móvil
South Korea




(OS2.0 iPhone SDK has input use from: Swedish, Danish, Finnish, Norwegian, Polish, Korean and Portuguese (Brazil). (In addition to the English, French, German, Italian and Russian which the current iPhones have.). And you can add Chinese too. http://blogs.computerworld.com/new_input_iphone_countries_brazil_sweden_denmark_norway_korea_poland.

Where's Japanese? EDIT - Oh wait - there it is :D
https://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2008/05/05/japanese-input-keyboards-on-iphone-2-0/
 
cheers to anyone who wouldn't mind giving MacRumors members a brief summary of all the above posts....specifically..

When is this Steve Jobs announcement (I believe today)
-at what Time? GMT

Simple question, if Steve does not give a specific date of the 3G iphone, I hear end of June, August., I hear in certain countries,,,i hear AT&T will subsidize ???

WOW ton of info.....

(ps...I understand if no one wants to summarize the above, but please don't bash me)

tks.

...just a confused Iphone guru
 
cheers to anyone who wouldn't mind giving MacRumors members a brief summary of all the above posts....specifically..
When is this Steve Jobs announcement (I believe today) -at what Time? GMT
Simple question, if Steve does not give a specific date of the 3G iphone, I hear end of June, August., I hear in certain countries,,,i hear AT&T will subsidize ??? WOW ton of info..... (ps...I understand if no one wants to summarize the above, but please don't bash me)
tks. ...just a confused Iphone guru

He'll give a date at the keynote.

http://live.phonemag.com/ - Someones REAALLY copying the iPhone coverflow, etc. See more below.

Hope you don't mind me editing these posts. The post count would be too much serial posting, and it'd look like bumping, which it isn't. Not going to do overly long sized posts though. as long as it keeps y'all entertained...

China
AppleInsider reporting the latest version of the iPhone Software 2.0 introduces handwriting recognition for Chinese (Traditional and Simplified).
“When you select Chinese input, you are given the option to use handwriting recognition allowing you to draw characters on the screen with your finger. As you write the character, four possibilities appear on the right side of the screen,” that report explains.


HTC TOUCH


Other articles
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/05/06/htc.touch.diamond/
http://www.phonemag.com/htc-video-demo-new-touchflo-3d-interface-052687.php
http://feeds.slashgear.com/~r/slash...ch-diamond-usable-mobile-internet-0611494.php

HTC running WM 6.1 Pro. In Europe - June. ]

Features:
Accelerometer
Amazing web browser (based on Opera)
One hand one touch
Decent data : HSDPA 7.2 HSUPA, wifi b/g That's 3.5G
Real and A-GPS GPS navigation
102 x 51 x 11.33mm and 110g (iPhone is 115 x 61 x 11.6mm and 135g).
2.8 inch screen, full VGA - 480 x 640 - (iPhone 3.5 inch 320 x 480)
Camera: 3.2MP (vs 2MP)
On screen keyboard.
Qualcomm 528MHz processor


Super-smooth menu animations
Desktop quality browsing, content is resized for the screen, until you use the navigation pad to zoom in and out.
Touching the screen will resize the page to an overview mode once again.
The accelerometer works while web browsing as well, to provide the full experience. The browser is a custom version of Opera.
TouchFLO 3D GUI, a 3D version of the original TouchFLO found on previous HTC smartphones. Interface extends to many different areas of the phone, including the CoverFlow-style album cover browsing, video and photo navigation


Dicussion of HTC
It's a rival, bar the lack of iTunes.
It has things near to Apple's patents. (Cover flow, accelerometer use)
It doesn't have a price point.
It's out possibly before the iPhone in Europe. Ouch.
It's data centric - it has kick ass HSDPA HSUPA, wifi, b/g.
The screen looks much better for the resolution. (My prediction being Apple might 4x it's pixels, but we'll see) darn good ppi (280) vs iPhone's of 160.
Lots of eye candy Core ANimation style

It's running WM 6.1
No app store, or SDK.
In US 3Q


VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIsNZB5UOLU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pGf4vxcrvg

So how does Apple respond? The question still remains what is the exclusivity and the specifics of the contracts between APple and it's current carriers.
 

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Make that 3.75G to go

Should we start calling it 3.75G now?


3G iPhone ships in Europe 'by August' - sources http://www.9to5mac.com/august_euro_iphone_deadline
Submitted by Andy Space on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 15:37.

Apple’s getting serious, planning to introduce its 3G iPhone across Europe by August, with help from its latest partner networks.

Apple’s aiming to ensure the new breed of mobile communications devices are available in quantity across Europe before August, presumably to make some sales before consumers here engage in their customary summer holidays that month.

This news emerges hot on the heels of Vodafone’s announcement today that it would sell the handset in the Czech Republic, Greece, Italy and Portugal in Europe, as well as in Australia, Egypt, India, New Zealand, South Africa and Turkey, later this year.

The move to sell the iPhone in Italy also suggests Apple is departing from its practice of inking exclusive deals with individual networks, as Telecom
Italia has also confirmed its intent to sell the iPhone, the current model of which is only available in Austria, Britain, France, Germany, the US and Ireland. The device is also set for sale in Canada, Spain, the Netherlands, Korea and (potentially) China and Russia, according to various reports.

Most analysts believe the next-gen iPhone will be introduced in June, timed to coincide with Apple’s annual Worldwide Developer’s Conference (WWDC). News of an August deadline for putting the device up for sale across Europe suggests Apple may plan a phased roll-out of the device, presumably introducing it to the US first - though how the company’s existing network partners in Europe are likely to respond to this isn’t clear.


Source = http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/06/t....html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

Their source?
Apple plans to begin selling the long-awaited, faster 3G version of its best-selling iPhone by the August summer holidays in some European countries, a person close to the situation said,

Wowee.


iPhone the One remote to rule them all...
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