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3G iPhone preview at WWDC, Release July 11 - Who, When Where, What, Why & how much
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hi....i am no expert, but on this chat and other websites it appears some time in June (trust me , I am as frustrated as you are)...there are tons of rumors out there (one actually rumor was that Steve Jobs was going to hold off until he met intentional sales goals, before he released the new iphone. i assume this is because no one would want the old ipone) . Wish I could give you a direct answer
for your other question, I would think that there would be an iphone "frenzy" similar to the first release. I am not a marketing expert, but i believe Apple some how has the ability to win over consumer emotions and get people to sleep over night in front or stores. I called apple and AT&T and they pretty much played dumb (which I would expect) , but I did ask then if there was a way that I could reserve one,...no luck with that. I can only hope that the release date is not as crazy (on the other hand, a majority of people alreay have an iphone, so Day 1 may not be that bad)
..only time can tell
Perhaps now because of the Italy deal, Apple will relase the
3G iPhone in countries and not sign a deal with specific carriers.
Maybe Canada !!!!!!!
3G iPhone in countries and not sign a deal with specific carriers.
Maybe Canada !!!!!!!
you are going to pay an arm and leg with ATT rates especially if you stay 5 weeks and you use the phone quite a lot
I think it was the Infinite Loop blog - made a decent point that Jobs has a sales target for this year. If sales did pick up he'd wait for a while before releasing the 3G iPhone. However, sales in Europe have only gone up because of £100 pound discounts on handsets (and a £100 discount on an O2 contract) for example. Which favours June to be honest. Apple will sell a lot more 3G than current in Europe - a lot of Apple evangelists/fan boys/tech geeks/tech leaders (who show their family, friends) may be waiting for 3G, if they haven't got one already. (And those that do have one already are likel to sell on and upgrade).
There will be an initial spike of sales. Trust me. But then you can order one, and besides, you'd probably want to ceck the forums for a week for any glitches/problems with the initial batch of handsets (see the black screen problem, yellow screen problem etc from v1 iPhone).
A roundup.
Well, Apple certainly did do something before the Earnings call webcast! (10pm UK time)
P.A. Semi - The second bridge?
Apple buys P.A. Semi CPU designers $278 million in cash. "Boom"! Apple had P.A. as a contender for Apple's chips, before Apple went with Intel.
P.A. Semi
- was founded by the former lead designer of the DEC Alpha & StrongARM processors.
- Makes PWRficient chips that they say are on the order of "300% more efficient than any comparable chips". They focus on power efficient chips, dynamically turning off sections of the chip as needed, when they section is idle. = less heat, faster clock rate, less battery usage, longer battery life
1) Now Apple's transitioned to Intel, could this be a divergence in the mobile side (Touch, iPhone, iTablet, iMID etc?) P.A. Semis chips are built from on the Power architecture, and the Mac was previously based on the PowerPC. So Apple has knowledge with using PowerPC architecture.
2) A bitchslap to Intel and there Atom chip (hello 2009 MIDs). Apple has some reason perhaps, after Intel started selling the Apple MAcBook Air chip to other PC makers.
3) P.A. might *already* have been to work with Apple, on the 3G iPhone. It's possible, as businessweek.com says, it's likely that it's going to be in iPods (they report Tony Fadell head of iPod division spearheaded the acquisition). This might be significant by the end of 2008. Just a thought, but I think Apple will be doing a decent refresh of the iPods soon. (They could easily get touch screens so you could play games on them for example, and do Bonjour).
As businessweek again says, there's a bigger picture here.
Unlocked 3G iPhones, non-exclusive contracts, June release dates
- Belgium - Astel.be reports 3G in June, unlocked.
- Italy - La Repulica reports Italy 3G in June
- India - itwire.com rumor - similar distribution, slightly later. (As soon as the Aussie store is up and running I imagine)
- Australia "" ""
This would be useful in terms of 3G cover depending on network, and where you live, and the rates on data etc. It's up to the network to price (within Apple limits I imagine) and then the consumer decides.
The Earnings Call
- Well, PA Semi will make the news, and why it was bought etc.
- iPhone plans
- Good Mac sales
- iPod slump? I think personally iPhones should be included. Please don't piss me off and talk about "cannablisation of sales". It's not the smartest thing to say.
Don't mess with Apple patents and design
Apple will protect its patents...URL]
Sony: The company which doesn't know what other parts of it are doing...
- Sony's going to buy Gracenote, the digital music I.D. service for roughly $260 million.
- Sony BMG is going to offer content with Nokia's "Comes with music" (a phone comes with a year of unlimited acces to music).
BlackApp
Could easily become big - if it gets the major stores in, it could use the iPhone as a virtual store card, eVoucher system. Think Kroger card, Nectar points, Esso tokens, AirMiles...
A sign of cool iPhone apps to come
MooTheCow has created a Drum app. Great developer group name, and also quite clever - Remember the Sony ad with all those instruments playing 1 note? Apple could do this with iPhones!!
Data, data, data
Any network taking the 3G iPhone is going to have to need to have a decent data package, if it's going to please the customers. [URL="http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=21068"]A good read on the area
China
- Could Apple go non-exclusive there to start, then as a strategy, move onto special contracts through a main provider?
- Apple's increasing it's retail presence, 1st store in a Best Buy in Shanghai's Xuhui area. Not exactly busting out into the market, but a start. Apple plans to introduce its own retail stores into China, with 2 stores in Beijing, 1in the Sanlitun area, 1 in Qianmen.
Surface
OK - What's to stop Apple not pushing out a Surface equivalent in their shops *before * Microsoft?
Apple could easily pimp out Balda to make a kick ass 6 foot by 6 foot screen / table displays running Windows and some kind of interactive game etc. I can just see these fitting in soooo much better than the broken ***** at the Science Museum (top floor above the cafeteria)
Bonjour iPhone apps
So much possibility here. Piratebay's venture to the iPhone?
Well, Apple certainly did do something before the Earnings call webcast! (10pm UK time)
P.A. Semi - The second bridge?
Apple buys P.A. Semi CPU designers $278 million in cash. "Boom"! Apple had P.A. as a contender for Apple's chips, before Apple went with Intel.
P.A. Semi
- was founded by the former lead designer of the DEC Alpha & StrongARM processors.
- Makes PWRficient chips that they say are on the order of "300% more efficient than any comparable chips". They focus on power efficient chips, dynamically turning off sections of the chip as needed, when they section is idle. = less heat, faster clock rate, less battery usage, longer battery life
1) Now Apple's transitioned to Intel, could this be a divergence in the mobile side (Touch, iPhone, iTablet, iMID etc?) P.A. Semis chips are built from on the Power architecture, and the Mac was previously based on the PowerPC. So Apple has knowledge with using PowerPC architecture.
2) A bitchslap to Intel and there Atom chip (hello 2009 MIDs). Apple has some reason perhaps, after Intel started selling the Apple MAcBook Air chip to other PC makers.
3) P.A. might *already* have been to work with Apple, on the 3G iPhone. It's possible, as businessweek.com says, it's likely that it's going to be in iPods (they report Tony Fadell head of iPod division spearheaded the acquisition). This might be significant by the end of 2008. Just a thought, but I think Apple will be doing a decent refresh of the iPods soon. (They could easily get touch screens so you could play games on them for example, and do Bonjour).
As businessweek again says, there's a bigger picture here.
Unlocked 3G iPhones, non-exclusive contracts, June release dates
- Belgium - Astel.be reports 3G in June, unlocked.
- Italy - La Repulica reports Italy 3G in June
- India - itwire.com rumor - similar distribution, slightly later. (As soon as the Aussie store is up and running I imagine)
- Australia "" ""
This would be useful in terms of 3G cover depending on network, and where you live, and the rates on data etc. It's up to the network to price (within Apple limits I imagine) and then the consumer decides.
The Earnings Call
- Well, PA Semi will make the news, and why it was bought etc.
- iPhone plans
- Good Mac sales
- iPod slump? I think personally iPhones should be included. Please don't piss me off and talk about "cannablisation of sales". It's not the smartest thing to say.
Don't mess with Apple patents and design
Apple will protect its patents...URL]
Sony: The company which doesn't know what other parts of it are doing...
- Sony's going to buy Gracenote, the digital music I.D. service for roughly $260 million.
- Sony BMG is going to offer content with Nokia's "Comes with music" (a phone comes with a year of unlimited acces to music).
BlackApp
Could easily become big - if it gets the major stores in, it could use the iPhone as a virtual store card, eVoucher system. Think Kroger card, Nectar points, Esso tokens, AirMiles...
A sign of cool iPhone apps to come
MooTheCow has created a Drum app. Great developer group name, and also quite clever - Remember the Sony ad with all those instruments playing 1 note? Apple could do this with iPhones!!
Data, data, data
Any network taking the 3G iPhone is going to have to need to have a decent data package, if it's going to please the customers. [URL="http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=21068"]A good read on the area
China
- Could Apple go non-exclusive there to start, then as a strategy, move onto special contracts through a main provider?
- Apple's increasing it's retail presence, 1st store in a Best Buy in Shanghai's Xuhui area. Not exactly busting out into the market, but a start. Apple plans to introduce its own retail stores into China, with 2 stores in Beijing, 1in the Sanlitun area, 1 in Qianmen.
Surface
OK - What's to stop Apple not pushing out a Surface equivalent in their shops *before * Microsoft?
Apple could easily pimp out Balda to make a kick ass 6 foot by 6 foot screen / table displays running Windows and some kind of interactive game etc. I can just see these fitting in soooo much better than the broken ***** at the Science Museum (top floor above the cafeteria)
Bonjour iPhone apps
So much possibility here. Piratebay's venture to the iPhone?
"We don't comment on future product" Earnings call info
With Apple.com now showing WWDC invite info on the main page, some snippets from the webcast of Quarter earnings:
2.0 iPhone Software
"Late June"
Thus - would the iPhone come out *before* 2.0? Don't think so. So expect 3G iPhone late June?
What are people's thoughts?
- Announce May, demo 10th June, release in time for OS 2.0 Late June?
- Announce WWDC 10th June, release, and OS update them to 2.0 late June?
- Announce WWDC 10th June, release late June with OS 2.0 already on?
3G iPhone
Regarding 3G and iPhone: "We don't comment on new products".
Regarding having current iPhone version alongside 3G versions: "We don't comment on unreleased products"
iPhone 10 million target
CONFIDENT of hitting 10million for the year iPhone sales. Asked at least twice about this, the answer was both times, that Apple was confident of hitting it.
Unit number target includes locked and unlocked iPhone sales.
The unlocked iPhones around the world:
"Gives us confidence in shipping that 10 million in calendar 2008"
Network Partners
More markets inc. Asia this year for iPhone. Apple is looking to roll out to more geographies, more places in Europe and Asia this year.
iPhone shortages
Apple expected iPhone to decline more than it did so sales beat unit expectations so at the end of quarter Apple experienced stock out. US stores have experienced relatively more and Apple believes there are a number of phones bought with the intention of unlocking (The number continues to be significant) a proxy for the worldwide demand for the phone.
Outstripped supply as sold more than expected. Expected more of a sequential decline than there was.On aggregate, they're low both in the US and in Europe.
iPhone & carriers - pricing
The carriers are "free to price as low as they wish". Hehehe
Europe iPhone sales
Why not ship phones from Europe to the US?
Once shipped to a carrier - ability to move them from carrier to carrier is very low.
Stock outs occurring at Apple stores. More susceptible to people coming into US Apple stores and buying multiple units (for unlocking).
Retail stores
208 Apple stores at the end of the quarter, with 27 outside the U.S. Looking to open in Australia, China, and Switzerland, and have 45 new stores for the year. A significant number of the 45 will be international (but less than 23).
Percentage of unlocked iPhones
Apple has "gone out of our way to classify the number as significant"
iPhone SDK
200,000 developers have downloaded iPhone SDK. A third of the Fortune 500 companies have contacted Apple about the program.
iPod sales
Apple expects a sequential decrease in iPod sales.
From the front page (which isn't verbatim):
Q: 10 million iPhone sales goal...is a move to 3G technology affecting this forecast?
A: We don't comment on unreleased products, but we are of course always looking to roll out to more locations.
By that I guess they mean places that only have 3G?
So what was missing?
- No questions on GPS
- No questions on competitors coming in with iPhone wannabes
- No questions on pricing (no answer was given as to whether the EDGE only iPhone would be sold alongside 3G versions when they come out).
- No questions on the cost for Touch to upgrade to 2.0
- No questions on the purchase in relation to chip providers for iPhone
(Bearing in mind that the stock answer to anything to do with unannounced future products was "We don't comment on future product")
~"We don't have a practise on talking about our purpose or plans..."
"We don't comment on future product"
"We gotta try sometimes"
"Can we PLEASE have the next question please"
With Apple.com now showing WWDC invite info on the main page, some snippets from the webcast of Quarter earnings:
2.0 iPhone Software
"Late June"
Thus - would the iPhone come out *before* 2.0? Don't think so. So expect 3G iPhone late June?
What are people's thoughts?
- Announce May, demo 10th June, release in time for OS 2.0 Late June?
- Announce WWDC 10th June, release, and OS update them to 2.0 late June?
- Announce WWDC 10th June, release late June with OS 2.0 already on?
3G iPhone
Regarding 3G and iPhone: "We don't comment on new products".
Regarding having current iPhone version alongside 3G versions: "We don't comment on unreleased products"
iPhone 10 million target
CONFIDENT of hitting 10million for the year iPhone sales. Asked at least twice about this, the answer was both times, that Apple was confident of hitting it.
Unit number target includes locked and unlocked iPhone sales.
The unlocked iPhones around the world:
"Gives us confidence in shipping that 10 million in calendar 2008"
Network Partners
More markets inc. Asia this year for iPhone. Apple is looking to roll out to more geographies, more places in Europe and Asia this year.
iPhone shortages
Apple expected iPhone to decline more than it did so sales beat unit expectations so at the end of quarter Apple experienced stock out. US stores have experienced relatively more and Apple believes there are a number of phones bought with the intention of unlocking (The number continues to be significant) a proxy for the worldwide demand for the phone.
Outstripped supply as sold more than expected. Expected more of a sequential decline than there was.On aggregate, they're low both in the US and in Europe.
iPhone & carriers - pricing
The carriers are "free to price as low as they wish". Hehehe
Europe iPhone sales
Why not ship phones from Europe to the US?
Once shipped to a carrier - ability to move them from carrier to carrier is very low.
Stock outs occurring at Apple stores. More susceptible to people coming into US Apple stores and buying multiple units (for unlocking).
Retail stores
208 Apple stores at the end of the quarter, with 27 outside the U.S. Looking to open in Australia, China, and Switzerland, and have 45 new stores for the year. A significant number of the 45 will be international (but less than 23).
Percentage of unlocked iPhones
Apple has "gone out of our way to classify the number as significant"
iPhone SDK
200,000 developers have downloaded iPhone SDK. A third of the Fortune 500 companies have contacted Apple about the program.
iPod sales
Apple expects a sequential decrease in iPod sales.
From the front page (which isn't verbatim):
Q: 10 million iPhone sales goal...is a move to 3G technology affecting this forecast?
A: We don't comment on unreleased products, but we are of course always looking to roll out to more locations.
By that I guess they mean places that only have 3G?
So what was missing?
- No questions on GPS
- No questions on competitors coming in with iPhone wannabes
- No questions on pricing (no answer was given as to whether the EDGE only iPhone would be sold alongside 3G versions when they come out).
- No questions on the cost for Touch to upgrade to 2.0
- No questions on the purchase in relation to chip providers for iPhone
(Bearing in mind that the stock answer to anything to do with unannounced future products was "We don't comment on future product")
~"We don't have a practise on talking about our purpose or plans..."
"We don't comment on future product"
"We gotta try sometimes"
"Can we PLEASE have the next question please"
My sloppy English whilst typing it out in rough. The chip in the Macbook Air is what I meant. Yes it was PR, but I thought that Apple did have a hand in getting Intel to make a chip that would make the Macbook Air possible. Intel was always going to come out with something similar for other PC companies.
I think we're just debating the level to which Apple had a hand in getting Intel to get the chip out. I think we agree it was bespoke/custom made for Apple and the Macbook Air, right?
"The new processor was developed independently of the MacBook Air processor, Brown said. "These [SL7100 LV processors] are similar but not identical to the Apple processor," Brown said. The MacBook Air processor was specially developed to meet Apple's needs and is also available to other PC makers"
Connie Brown, Intel spokeswoman...
http://www.macworld.co.uk/business/news/index.cfm?newsid=20409
http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/index.cfm?newsid=20294
P.A. Semi - A different take
Has Apple bought P.A> Semi for assets?
There chips require far more power than can be expected in a mobile handset (they need ~15W). They might go on and design mobile chips.
So if it's for the Intellectual Property and and engineering talent - what are both of those, and how will Apple use them?
(Ooops! I should have
While the news generated speculation that Apple might use P.A. Semi's low power PowerPC chips in future iPhones or iPods, Beyond3D points out that these chips require far more power than can be expected for use in the iPhone or iPod.
iPhone SDK
Remember there shouldn't be background apps? The new SDK build seems to have something interesting in it regarding that:
''Update: A blue and green birdie sang in our ear about the UIApplication delegate class: "There are definitely some very interesting methods added to UIApplication's delegate, including methods for badging the Springboard icon, and methods related to gaining and resigning "active" status - seems like background apps may be permitted somehow."''
Which kinda makes sense - the apps themselves may not be running in the background, but the iPhone can keep tabs of what was running before a call, or before you looked at the weather, and then give the option to come back to it (with the state the app was in saved).
The analysts starting to line up like ducks?
Citi analysts Richard Gardner and Yeechang Lee:
Garner predicted in February that there would be a 3G iPhone announcement by mid-year. They've firmed it up to believe there will be an announcement of a 3G iPhone 9th June (likely date of Steve's keynote at WWDC).
Something from the Earnings call -
How best to get OS 2.0 out and the 3G out? For the hardware on the 3G iPhone to work, it'd need the OS to contain code to have these features work. So do they come with OS 2.0 software?
For those who got iPhones at the initial releases - what lessons or things did you find out?
Was it better to pre-order, or buy on the day?
Should you wait a week before buying?
Should (if you could) still buy in another country to get a better exchange rate deal?
What will be your source of information for the best apps to buy or try?
Speaking of apps - As the SDK updates come in (and I imagine, that come June 9th, when the features of the 3G iPhone are shown, they'll add the software code ability to control the new hardware functions for a SDK update that day) - there's been talk on the wire about how Apple is going to handle apps:
People want standard models to use: try before you buy shareware, freeware, limited day/function trials with a way to update them to full versions. And more - which makes payment much more complicated.
I'd imagine an update on this too come WWDC - fleshing out of the plans.
Citi analysts Richard Gardner and Yeechang Lee:
Garner predicted in February that there would be a 3G iPhone announcement by mid-year. They've firmed it up to believe there will be an announcement of a 3G iPhone 9th June (likely date of Steve's keynote at WWDC).
Something from the Earnings call -
How best to get OS 2.0 out and the 3G out? For the hardware on the 3G iPhone to work, it'd need the OS to contain code to have these features work. So do they come with OS 2.0 software?
For those who got iPhones at the initial releases - what lessons or things did you find out?
Was it better to pre-order, or buy on the day?
Should you wait a week before buying?
Should (if you could) still buy in another country to get a better exchange rate deal?
What will be your source of information for the best apps to buy or try?
Speaking of apps - As the SDK updates come in (and I imagine, that come June 9th, when the features of the 3G iPhone are shown, they'll add the software code ability to control the new hardware functions for a SDK update that day) - there's been talk on the wire about how Apple is going to handle apps:
People want standard models to use: try before you buy shareware, freeware, limited day/function trials with a way to update them to full versions. And more - which makes payment much more complicated.
I'd imagine an update on this too come WWDC - fleshing out of the plans.
so people think that the 3G iphone will be announced June 9th and details on it ??
I really don't know what to think with the 3G iPhone, SDK and Software Update
It'll be an interesting time.
I really don't know what to think with the 3G iPhone, SDK and Software Update
It'll be an interesting time.
I'm no expert, but from my knowledge. The SDK means software development kit and basically it's self explanitory. It is used to make programs for the iPhone that will be released at the end of June in the Apps Store. Developers could pay a $99 fee to develop for the iPhone and download the kit and Apple will choose select people and their apps.
Apple will get 70% of revenue from the apps sold and the developer gets 30%.
Apple will get 70% of revenue from the apps sold and the developer gets 30%.
I think we think along the same lines. I have been debating this in my head for the past week or so.
If I recall, people who pre-ordered, the iPhones shipped on release day. That means depending on shipping options the phone could take a day to a week to get there. It would be longer to go "over the pond" I suppose if it were a release to all existing carriers. Although shipments did come directly from China so there may not be a longer delay to Europe than to the US.
The stores had a lot of stock and were replenished almost daily. Most people who walked into the Apple store that night got one.
That is another issue that came up. Activation. Many reports of people not able to activate their phone for a day or two after getting it. Oh the agony of having the iPhone in your hands but not able to do anything with it. Perhaps it might be better to wait a week. On the other hand, if the store has it, you might as well buy it because who knows what their stocking levels will be in a week?
I remember some people being *pissed* because their courier didn't even bother to try and deliver, and just left the note saying "You weren't in, we missed you. See you in a day or two"...
Activation will be different depending on the country this time, as it seems possible that come July say, that there will be network indifferent Apple iPhones.
In terms of demand - (having commented on another thread on this) - I think there will be big demand. Just saying oooh, there are already people with an iPhone so Apple won't get as good a demand for them isn't a credible reason. If the EDGE only phone isn't going to be allowed to co-exist next to the 3G handset iPhones, then there is going to be demand at least equivalent to current sales levels.
Case in point - the Macbook Air,and also the MB/MBP in general - Apple is doing well taking new customers who are recent converts to Apple. They're making their slice of the markets bigger by getting converts/multidevice users, and also getting new customers.
Apple can change the prices up much more and offer if they want to a better price range of iPhones, with a different set of features if they want to. For business users, they can claim the iPhone on expenses, or claim VAT back. For business management they can put it on the corporate tab. For geek users, there will be several who'll just sell their own phone and get a new one.
I'd imagine that this section will be sizable - If the person is able enough to unlock their iPhone, they may be much more aware of the upcoming 3G iPhone update, and sell before the general public becomes aware and the resale price of 16Gb EDGE only Phones goes down. We still don't really know if Apple is going to screw over those who've unlocked their iPhones currently. They might be pro-active in this, or they might just use the temptations of Apps store etc to bring users back into the fold. We'll see.
One thing i'd be interested to see is how much the VIP developers have had access to that isn't in the normal SDK release/information. Have they had access to code calls to a GPS function, or a video function? Is there a 2 tier program on currently, or will it become a free for all coding session come June 9th/10th to race to get something out for when the 3G iPhone hits?
Would Apple do that, or would they provide a more level playing field?
Edit: Looks like we might be having GPS if Engadget is right...
t0mat0, take a look at this: http://gizmodo.com/384356/glossy-black-iphone-3g-is-just-a-third+party-case
Gizmodo "smashed" Engadget's rumor regarding the pic. It apparently is a case.
Who do you believe?
Gizmodo "smashed" Engadget's rumor regarding the pic. It apparently is a case.
Who do you believe?
Didn't engadget just use the picture? gizmodo could be just biting engadget's ass. Don't forget that Jobs was screwing around with the case design till the last minute. And then after the last minute. We'll see - i'm undecided, but making it slightly bigger would easily be feasible, and also easily fit the GPS in. And the style of the case shown isn't totally unbelievable.
From Engadget page:
"we're not by any means claiming the image above is the new iPhone, just an example of what it could look like given the info we received."
As a sidenote: I see on Page 1 that there is talk of the iPhone becoming a remote control. Talked about it previously, but I'll make a guess here - the iPhone will either have IR in the next model, or the one after that, which will allow people to use it as a remote control for tvs etc. Using iPhone for remote control of a Mac for Front Row, presentations etc all make sense.
TUAW's note goes further, in that the "iControl" will both allow control of media from iTunes libraries, but also stream media from them.
Going to the gym yesterday, I was thinking there could be a market for this - If the iPhone can do wifi and also radio, then the audio channels for tvs in gyms could use a gym branded application to tune into the tv audio. With Nike's move with Apple in terms of gym and outdoor routines, i would imagine a series of other apps to come out for the different gyms (e.g. Cannon, Fitness First, Esporta etc in the UK) to try and pin down the data created from being at the gym so as to lock the user more into their gym. A gym agnostic application that stores the user's data is not what they want... (Though it's the best for the gym user if the gym programs were compatible. It's a bit like he whole problem of not being able to transfer data easily between the walled gardens of social networking sites, or email applications).
Apple's had enough work on it's hands sorting out it's routers and connectivity with Apple products, why not see the 3G iPhone thrown into the mix? There's a logical argument to be able to use the iPhone as a slaved UI for Apple products -
- e.g. using it as a controller for games on a MacBook or MBP
- a multitouch pad or secondary pad for programs which need either complex 3D manipulation, or have multiple key combo usage
- as a mouse pad
We'll see, but the iPhone creates a gateway for reinforcing concepts from many areas of Apple's world to and from the iPhone.
Case in point of the SDK giving us a crumb trail, of features slowly being drip drip dripped into the SDK, and the possibility of a fair few being held till after the announcement of the 3G iPhone. (E.g. video recording capability - the current one can do video recording (http://www.9to5mac.com/iphone-video-recorder - why is this being held back? My vote is they needed time for integration with other products and time to link in with a .mac , youtube integration and whatever else they are going to suprise us with).
In the latest iPhone SDK Preferences app - there is reference to both EDGE and 3G networking.
http://www.9to5mac.com/3G-code-found
http://blogs.computerworld.com/iphone_3g_code_discovered
This will tie-in in respect as to what size video gets streamed etc I imagine, along with other uses.
So what other suprises are up Apple's sleeves? Before the announcement of the iPhone, it was actually a suprise to many of its announcement. So seeing as we can guess about 3G, GPS, video integration, apps - what's the special things that we *don't* know about? What do you think?
In the latest iPhone SDK Preferences app - there is reference to both EDGE and 3G networking.
http://www.9to5mac.com/3G-code-found
http://blogs.computerworld.com/iphone_3g_code_discovered
This will tie-in in respect as to what size video gets streamed etc I imagine, along with other uses.
So what other suprises are up Apple's sleeves? Before the announcement of the iPhone, it was actually a suprise to many of its announcement. So seeing as we can guess about 3G, GPS, video integration, apps - what's the special things that we *don't* know about? What do you think?
Attachments
iMacs. And maybe something else. Ain't no iphone. Don't fret it'd probably be a tuesday they update the iMacs
I think the 3G iPhone will be released in June.
Engadget seems to think that 3 million units will be available by end of May:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/foxconn-wins-3g-iphone-contract-3-million-units-shipping-in-jun/
What's interesting is that I'm still getting plenty of O2 banner ads throughout MacRumors saying that the 8GB current model is available for £169 (the £100 discount promotion), although clicking on the link confirms that the 8GB is now sold out and they offer only the 16GB version for £329. Bargain!!
I'm deperately waiting now for the goodies of the 3G version. 3G is a given. GPS would be nice. I know my wait for an iPhone will have finally been worth it
Engadget seems to think that 3 million units will be available by end of May:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/foxconn-wins-3g-iphone-contract-3-million-units-shipping-in-jun/
What's interesting is that I'm still getting plenty of O2 banner ads throughout MacRumors saying that the 8GB current model is available for £169 (the £100 discount promotion), although clicking on the link confirms that the 8GB is now sold out and they offer only the 16GB version for £329. Bargain!!
I'm deperately waiting now for the goodies of the 3G version. 3G is a given. GPS would be nice. I know my wait for an iPhone will have finally been worth it
I think the 3G iPhone will be released in June.
Engadget seems to think that 3 million units will be available by end of May:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/foxconn-wins-3g-iphone-contract-3-million-units-shipping-in-jun/
What's interesting is that I'm still getting plenty of O2 banner ads throughout MacRumors saying that the 8GB current model is available for £169 (the £100 discount promotion), although clicking on the link confirms that the 8GB is now sold out and they offer only the 16GB version for £329. Bargain!!
I'm deperately waiting now for the goodies of the 3G version. 3G is a given. GPS would be nice. I know my wait for an iPhone will have finally been worth it
And engadget also said that the 3g will be black and we know what happened to that rumor. [see front page]
Im not denying it, just saying that engadget has inconsistencies.